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muslim leaders blame everyone else
Sep 24th, 2014 at 10:31am
 
they sicken me.

the problem is the cult islam.

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MUSLIM leaders have called for a full investigation into the fatal shooting of a teenage Muslim man after he stabbed two counter-terrorism officers in Melbourne last night.

The 18-year-old Narre Warren man, who was shot dead outside Endeavour Hills police station, was a “known terror suspect”, Justice Minister Michael Keenan said this morning.

The AFP officer was stabbed a number of times, and the Victorian police officer was stabbed twice in the arm before he shot the man dead.


Ghaith Krayem, Secretary of the Islamic Council of Victoria, said he was a “little disappointed” with the police press conference after the incident.

“I think it was a little bit pre-emptive,” he told 3AW radio.

The police have come out very clearly and almost have said it was the young man’s fault, and I don’t know in the fall of time that may prove to be the case, but I think within a couple of hours I was disappointed.

“I think we need to allow the processes to play out and the facts to be known because the family quite frankly is really struggling.”

Mr Krayem said the man had been involved with Al-Furqan, a group raided by police in Melbourne’s southeast in 2012, but had not had recent contact with them.


The Islamic Council of Victoria expressed “deep sorrow” over the incident, which left the officers in hospital in a stable condition.

They said the shooting highlighted the importance of dealing with alienation.

“There needs to be a full and objective investigation into this incident to ensure that such a tragedy is never repeated,” the council said in a statement today.

“This tragedy highlights the real cost of a failure to deal with these serious issues and why we have made numerous calls on the Australian government to deal with the root causes of alienation and disaffection of people such as this.”

Mr Krayem confirmed the police had previous dealings with the teenager.

“I guess the point of that is that we’ve seen recently there is a tendency to label people radicals or extremists ... and those labels have become a way for us not to look into the underlying causes that lead into someone — he’s only 18 — to get to a point where they are behaving in ways that the rest of us find hard to understand,” he told 3AW.

“It’s easy once you label someone to not really question what’s going on.”

Mr Krayem said there was a level of “frustration and anxiety” in the Muslim community.

“The community over the past couple of months has felt more and more under siege,” he said.

“There’s Senator Lambie making comments, we have poor language by the Prime Minister which we’ve had to call out, all of this is just increasing the tension in the community.

“When people are scared and anxious, and I’m talking everybody out there, then it will get to a point where we filter what we see, hear, and respond in ways that they wouldn’t normally respond.”

The council said it would support the man’s family.
Originally published as Muslim leaders want full investigation


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/muslim-leaders-call-for-full-investigation-in...

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Re: muslim leaders blame everyone else
Reply #1 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 10:41am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 24th, 2014 at 10:31am:

I want islam banned




Good luck with that!


I mean, good luck with that!        Wink






I'm happy for moslems to practice ISLAM, in moslem countries.

Because that circumstance, would be a good example to the whole non-ISLAMIC world, of what ISLAM produces.
.....which is DEATH, and dead bodies.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #2 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 11:09am
 
Islam has an ingrained victim mentality, muslims never do anything wrong it is always the fault of the evil kuffar, this helps with the Propaganda side of things.

When it comes to divide and conquer the muslims are masters of that,the leftists stick up for a belief that is not compatible with human rights.

Islam translated from Arabic means submission, the lefties have that down and they are not even muslims.

Mind you if christians were behaving like muslims the lefties would be outraged.
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #3 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 11:28am
 
not jumping to conclusions 2 hours after the incident and before the facts of the case are known?

Simply outrageous.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #4 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 12:02pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 24th, 2014 at 11:28am:
not jumping to conclusions 2 hours after the incident and before the facts of the case are known?



What's unknown Gandalf?

You can be certain the apologists will be out in force for this one.

"This tragedy highlights the real cost of a failure to deal with these serious issues and why we have made numerous calls on the Australian government to deal with the root causes of alienation and disaffection of people such as this"

They could ban islam that would stop it eh Gandalf?

Muslim blame game again YAAAAAAWwwwwwwwnnnnnn.

http://www.icv.org.au/index.php/latest-news/media-releases
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Reply #5 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 12:21pm
 
Adamant, some questions, please, if I may?

  1. Are some Muslims "alienated" from the majority of  Australian society?
  2. In order for someone to become "alienated" who must perform the "alienation", the individual[s] or the broader society?
  3. If individual[s] complain about being "alienated" should they blame themselves or the broader society which has "alienated" them, for their "alienation"?
  4. Does such complaints indicate they like being "alienated" or not?


Lets see a bit of intellectual honesty from you for a change!   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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|dev|null wrote on Sep 24th, 2014 at 12:21pm:
In order for someone to become "alienated" who must perform the "alienation", the individual[s] or the broader society?
  • If individual[s] complain about being "alienated" should they blame themselves or the broader society which has "alienated" them, for their "alienation"?



  • The muslims are alienated because of what bearded nutjobs preach about non muslims in Mosques.

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    Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
     
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    Reply #7 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 1:54pm
     
    Could be Baron, could be.   Tell me, should all Muslims be "alienated" because of what some "nut jobs" preach in "some Mosques"?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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    "Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

    "we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
    Freediver, 2007.
     
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    Reply #8 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 7:12pm
     
    Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 24th, 2014 at 10:31am:
    I want islam banned


    What you desire and what will happen are two very different things, thankfully, Sprint.  Section 116 of the Constitution would make it very difficult to ban an entire religion in Australia.   Roll Eyes
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    Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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    Reply #9 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 8:31pm
     
    The 'islamics' hate our freedom - so in Sprint's book, thats a pretty good reason to go ahead and abolish our freedom.

    admit it sprint - you are really an undercover muslim  aren't you? Cheesy
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    A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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    Reply #10 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 8:50pm
     
    A Muslim brought a knife to a gun fight with the cops. That's what happened. Now the Muslims are worried about people feeling anxious - which is happening because of alienation, not because of Muslims getting all stabby. It's our fault for not buying this disaffected teen a bomb vest. We need to stop thinking negative thoughts about Islam, or else....
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    Reply #11 - Sep 24th, 2014 at 10:01pm
     
    polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 24th, 2014 at 8:31pm:
    The 'islamics' hate our freedom - so in Sprint's book, thats a pretty good reason to go ahead and abolish our freedom.

    admit it sprint - you are really an undercover muslim  aren't you? Cheesy






    gandalf,

    Freedom.

    What do YOU, want freedom for ?




    gandalf,

    As horrible as the suggestion may be to some;

    Freedom, and some persons, are incompatible.

    It is true!           Smiley

    Dictionary;
    incompatible = = not able to exist or be used together.       (of two people) unable to live together harmoniously.



    e.g. Criminals, and, moslems, are two groups of people which i would nominate as being incompatible with freedom.

    After all gandalf, doesn't ISLAM mean submission ?

    Why does a person like yourself want freedom ?
    .....a person who is a moslem, a person who is dedicated to being a slave of what ISLAMIC law promotes, which is  submission, slavery, and the removal of personal freedom.

    gandalf, ISLAM has already chosen everything for you!

    You don't need freedom.

    You have chosen ISLAM submission.







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    When free men, give the gift of freedom to moslems, what you get back from moslems, is ISIS!

    It is true!           Smiley



    Gaza cease-fire celebrated by ... er ... Gazans.
    http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409089492/25#25
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    When Muslims fight for 'freedom,' you end up with ISIS.









    "Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."

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    "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."

    Thomas Mann





    IMAGE.....
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    "Freedom of expression GO TO HELL!"



    IMO, moslems should - GO AWAY, LEAVE AUSTRALIA - and express such views, within a Sharia jurisdiction.
    .....in a place where such views are appropriate.






    THIS [image below] DOES NOT BELONG IN AUSTRALIA, ON 'THE AUSTRALIAN STREET'

    'PROTESTATIONS' LIKE THESE [image below], BELONG ONLY WITHIN SHARIA JURISDICTIONS, imo.

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    Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
    Moslems, religious bigots, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' and tolerant ISLAM and moslems really are -  towards those who don't hold with the views of ISIS of ISLAM and moslems.

    Moslems on a Sydney street, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion',
    .....the 'religious' right to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.



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    Reply #12 - Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:17pm
     
    It has begun.

    Australia 1
    Muslims 0

    We still have the dumbest terrorists on the planet.
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    "Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

    "we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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    Reply #14 - Sep 25th, 2014 at 1:46pm
     
    It struck me as odd that they would come right out and describe those Islamophobes as brianless, but put on kid gloves for the terrorists. Aren't they worried about alienating the Islamophobes and driving them towards extremism?
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