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There seems to be a lot of pandering going on
Sep 25^th, 2014 at 10:46am

If a Chinese ran amuck with a meat cleaver and had to be gunned down by the law, would everbody be running about expressing regret & sympathy to Chinese community leaders?

If a Fijian was running about smashing people's heads in with a coconut and stabbing people, he might have to be eliminated in the interests of public safety. Would we be holding public ceremonies with the whole islander population and asking forgiveness?

Then why the hell is there all this pandering to muslim sensitivities?
It's not as if they all seem to be supportive of public law & order. Certainly not the head of some Islamic council in Victoria that I heard. He all but refused to say anything negative about this murderous young thug who might have taken the lives of two of our guys who put their lives on the line for us.

F*ck them! They better just learn & quick that if they try any of this crap in this country they will be dealt with AS SEVERELY AS NECESSARY!

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Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on
Reply #1 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 10:56am

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 10:46am:

If a Chinese ran amuck with a meat cleaver and had to be gunned down by the law, would everbody be running about expressing regret & sympathy to Chinese community leaders?

If a Fijian was running about smashing people's heads in with a coconut and stabbing people, he might have to be eliminated in the interests of public safety. Would we be holding public ceremonies with the whole islander population and asking forgiveness?

Then why the hell is there all this pandering to muslim sensitivities?
It's not as if they all seem to be supportive of public law & order. Certainly not the head of some Islamic council in Victoria that I heard. He all but refused to say anything negative about this murderous young thug who might have taken the lives of two of our guys who put their lives on the line for us.

F*ck them! They better just learn & quick that if they try any of this crap in this country they will be dealt with AS SEVERELY AS NECESSARY!

If a Chinese ran amuck with a meat cleaver

If we had spent over a decade demonising the Chinese community and in response to this act went on to put the blame on all Chinese people instead of the person who committed the crime then I think sane people would support the Chinese community who are not responsible for the crime and the same for the Fijian people.

We need to stop the drivers for this very real problem and most of the commentary I see will only make the problem worse.

Throwing blame, anger and abuse at the Muslim community in general and further isolating and marginalising them will only help to produce more and more terrorists as a result.

A lot of you guys are your own worst enemies.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on Reply #2 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:02am You're dead wrong there . . .we already know who our worst enemies are. You people just haven't tumbled to it yet. But then you're all pretty slow aren't you.
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Reply #3 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:10am

the young guy that got shot dead in vic:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/09/24/terror-suspects-friends-shocked-de...

Dunno, sounds a bit like his friends are covering for him a bit but no real evidence of radicalism there—that stuff about the Islam flag not ISIS flag can be verified. His passport taken away with no explanation etc.

Now there is talk there was a second person at the scene!

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King FriYAY II Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2109	Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on Reply #4 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:11am LOL All these apologists piss me off. “This isn’t about faith” they tell us!!! Tell that to the knife wielding dead bloke – I reckon he thought it was about faith – I reckon he thought it was about Islam – I reckon he thought as far as Muslims go, he was a great one.
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Reply #5 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:13am

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:02am:

You're dead wrong there . . .we already know who our worst enemies are. You people just haven't tumbled to it yet.
But then you're all pretty slow aren't you.

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When presented with a reasoned thought out position resort to name calling & collective generalisations.

Now its the Muslims

10 years ago it was the Lebs

before that it was the Vietnamese gangs

before that it was the Wogs

before that it was the Greeks

And in the time of the Eureka Stockade it was the Chinese.

Scared little whiteman.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on Reply #6 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:39am You must have an old 78 there smithy. I seem to have heard it over & over.
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Reply #7 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:47am

There now seems to be a facebook page, so I hear, called the Islamophobia Australia Register, where incidents of anti-muslim behaviour can be recorded.

The poor wee diddums are now Australia's greatest victims.

No doubt all the "progressives" will be scurrying to get their names on there to express support.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58828 Here Gender:	Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on Reply #8 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:51am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:39am: You must have an old 78 there smithy. I seem to have heard it over & over. You may never understand. It's ok though don't worry about it.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on Reply #9 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:54am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:39am: You must have an old 78 there smithy. I seem to have heard it over & over.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138385 Gender:	Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on Reply #10 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:55am bogarde73 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:02am: You're dead wrong there . . . No, he was spot-on, actually. Moreover, China and Fiji are countries. Islam is not.
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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on Reply #11 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:58am People are responsible for their own actions, not the actions of others.
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Reply #12 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:00pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:13am:

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 11:02am:

You're dead wrong there . . .we already know who our worst enemies are. You people just haven't tumbled to it yet.
But then you're all pretty slow aren't you.

S.O.P

When presented with a reasoned thought out position resort to name calling & collective generalisations.

Now its the Muslims

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Well Muslims are attacking our police, Muslims aboard are calling on fellow Muslims in OZ to kill us any which way they can, Muslims are beheading innocent people, Muslims are trying to crate a state based on this barbarity.

You can dodge and weave and offer pissy apologetic dribble, but you can’t escape the fact all this is being done in the name of Islam, by Muslims (whether they are misguided/not represent All Muslims etc doesn’t change the facts)

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58828 Here Gender:	Re: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on Reply #13 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:00pm Quote: There seems to be a lot of pandering going on
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Reply #14 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:05pm

King FriYAY II wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:

You can dodge and weave and offer pissy apologetic dribble, but you can’t escape the fact all this is being done in the name of Islam,
by some crazy Muslims (whether they are misguided/not represent All Muslims etc doesn’t change the facts)

Yes.

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