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Sep 29th, 2014 at 4:56am
 
Australian Government investment in science reaches 30-year low


The Australian government's investment in research and development has dropped to its lowest level in 30 years, an analysis of government figures shows.

Science and innovation spending has fallen to 2.2 per cent of total budget expenditure this year, the lowest share since 1984-5, a Fairfax Media analysis has found.

This is the third consecutive year government R&D spending has fallen as a share of either GDP or total budget spend.

"You do start to worry when science spend falls," said economist Jim Minifie, program director of productivity growth at the Grattan Institute.

"Innovation is what drives improvements in living standards, no doubt about it."



R&D investment has grown at less than half the rate of total budget expenditure over the past two decades. At an average annual rate of 2 per cent, real growth in science spending lags far behind transport (23.5 per cent), public safety (8.8 per cent) housing (6.6 per cent) and health (5.5 per cent). Total budget expenditure has increased 4.4 per cent in real terms since the mid-1990s.

Budget figures also show science and innovation spending has fallen to its lowest share of GDP in 25 years. This year's expenditure of 0.56 per cent of GDP is the lowest since 1989-90, according to a Parliamentary Library analysis provided to the Greens.

The Australian Academy of Science president Andrew Holmes said there was substantial evidence that public investment in research increased productivity.

A 2012 study found investment in basic research led to 30 times more economic growth than investment in physical capital such as infrastructure.  Investment in applied research led to 10 times more growth.

"We've been lucky so far, but with a mining boom that is slowing and an economy in transition, that luck could run out," Holmes said.

"If we don't strategically invest in science and research, we'll be ill-prepared for future challenges whilst other nations are powering ahead of us reaping the rewards of increased scientific investment."

While not all innovation needs to be local, too little investment in local R&D carries dangers, Dr Minifie warned.

"There are clearly huge spillovers to R&D among the community of advanced countries … [But] to be in a position to access those fruits, you need to be sufficiently sophisticated."

Australia ranked 18th out of 20 advanced economies - ahead of only Greece and the Slovak Republic - for government R&D spending as a share of GDP in 2013. In 2012, Australia ranked 24th out of 28 countries, according to OECD data compiled by the Greens.

The Academy, the chief scientist and The Greens have called for Australia to lift public and private R&D from 2.2 per cent of GDP to three per cent, in line with countries like the US.

The chief scientist Ian Chubb said one of the major effects of government investment in research was that it encouraged businesses to take "creative risks" to develop and apply that new knowledge. This has flow-on effects for jobs and the economy.

"Without research funding from government, business will not take risks," he said.

But Professor Chubb also said Australia desperately needed a national science strategy to highlight where future money would be best spent.

"If the public really understood all the benefits that accrue to them on a daily, if not hourly, basis from research and development that was done somewhere in Australia, or was brought to Australia, then they would be ensuring that our politicians understood the importance of this for the future of the country."

The Greens deputy leader Adam Bandt said public investment in R&D not only improved health and welfare through better vaccines and communications technology, but was increasingly a cornerstone of our economy.

"Since 2009, our manufacturing sector has made more money each year exporting health and medical products than exporting cars."

Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane did not respond to questions about the government's cuts to science programs but he said it would soon release its "Competitiveness Agenda".

"One of the key elements of this strategy will be to draw science further into industry policy and to create stronger links between business, research and science," he said.

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Reply #1 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am
 
Whilst I agree we should be investing in science, I'm not sure the greens should be lecturing.

Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.

Yet a team of Phd students at ANU lost their entire 6 years of research when green activists , paid for out of greenpeaces budget, if memory serves me correctly, destroyed the entire project with herbicide in a midnight raid,

Highly unscientific, IMHO
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Reply #2 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:06am
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am:
Whilst I agree we should be investing in science, I'm not sure the greens should be lecturing.

Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.

Yet a team of Phd students at ANU lost their entire 6 years of research when green activists , paid for out of greenpeaces budget, if memory serves me correctly, destroyed the entire project with herbicide in a midnight raid,

Highly unscientific, IMHO


www.wired.com/2014/09/new-gm-crops/
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Reply #3 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:10am
 
____ wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:06am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am:
Whilst I agree we should be investing in science, I'm not sure the greens should be lecturing.

Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.

Yet a team of Phd students at ANU lost their entire 6 years of research when green activists , paid for out of greenpeaces budget, if memory serves me correctly, destroyed the entire project with herbicide in a midnight raid,

Highly unscientific, IMHO


www.wired.com/2014/09/new-gm-crops/


The Greens don't get to decide what research is allowed and what isn't. What those eco-terrorists did was unacceptable. With actions like that, it's little wonder the Greens sit on the edge of the political abyss, needing just one more nudge to fall in completely.
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Reply #4 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:12am
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am:
Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.



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Reply #5 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:17am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:10am:
____ wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:06am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am:
Whilst I agree we should be investing in science, I'm not sure the greens should be lecturing.

Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.

Yet a team of Phd students at ANU lost their entire 6 years of research when green activists , paid for out of greenpeaces budget, if memory serves me correctly, destroyed the entire project with herbicide in a midnight raid,

Highly unscientific, IMHO


www.wired.com/2014/09/new-gm-crops/


The Greens don't get to decide what research is allowed and what isn't. What those eco-terrorists did was unacceptable. With actions like that, it's little wonder the Greens sit on the edge of the political abyss, needing just one more nudge to fall in completely.



I support the suspension of all GM crops and GM food in Australia until full 'independent' testing are completed. Do you?

Or do you and your conservative mates support the community being used as crash test dummies via their food?
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Reply #6 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:19am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:12am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am:
Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.



http://www.sonofafarmer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/monsanto-evil-sign.jpg



In central Africa , bananas are a staple food for millions of people who eat up to 12 to 15 a day.

It is very easy to put the GM gene for extra iron, into this species and prevent millions of cases of anaemia.
Anaemic children are, in general, 10 points lower in IQ.

Sounds like a win/win to me
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Reply #7 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:50am
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:19am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:12am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am:
Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.



http://www.sonofafarmer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/monsanto-evil-sign.jpg



In central Africa , bananas are a staple food for millions of people who eat up to 12 to 15 a day.

It is very easy to put the GM gene for extra iron, into this species and prevent millions of cases of anaemia.
Anaemic children are, in general, 10 points lower in IQ.

Sounds like a win/win to me


And multinationals then own them bananas. Multinational profits over humanitarian interests will win yet again. Never again will people have access to free wild food ... or even free food grown on their land. That's the long term game isn't it. Slavery of humanity via their stomachs.
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Reply #8 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:59am
 
expenditure by labor  dropped for 3 years PRIOR to abbott.

miss something, did we?
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longweekend58 wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:59am:
expenditure by labor  dropped for 3 2 years PRIOR to abbott.

miss something, did we?



Yet Labor isn't the current anti-science government ... it's in opposition.

The abbott mob is.
i.e No Science Minister !
How will they re-enact noah's ark without one.

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Reply #10 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 11:58am
 
____ wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:17am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:10am:
____ wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:06am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am:
Whilst I agree we should be investing in science, I'm not sure the greens should be lecturing.

Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.

Yet a team of Phd students at ANU lost their entire 6 years of research when green activists , paid for out of greenpeaces budget, if memory serves me correctly, destroyed the entire project with herbicide in a midnight raid,

Highly unscientific, IMHO


www.wired.com/2014/09/new-gm-crops/


The Greens don't get to decide what research is allowed and what isn't. What those eco-terrorists did was unacceptable. With actions like that, it's little wonder the Greens sit on the edge of the political abyss, needing just one more nudge to fall in completely.



I support the suspension of all GM crops and GM food in Australia until full 'independent' testing are completed. Do you?
Yes.

Or do you and your conservative mates support the community being used as crash test dummies via their food? 
No.

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Reply #11 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 12:13pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:10am:
____ wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 6:06am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 5:42am:
Whilst I agree we should be investing in science, I'm not sure the greens should be lecturing.

Most scientists agree GM food shows wonderful potential to improve human suffering and provide nutrition to the worlds poor.

Yet a team of Phd students at ANU lost their entire 6 years of research when green activists , paid for out of greenpeaces budget, if memory serves me correctly, destroyed the entire project with herbicide in a midnight raid,

Highly unscientific, IMHO


www.wired.com/2014/09/new-gm-crops/


The Greens don't get to decide what research is allowed and what isn't. What those eco-terrorists did was unacceptable. With actions like that, it's little wonder the Greens sit on the edge of the political abyss, needing just one more nudge to fall in completely.


Are you saying that the solution is to stop doing all R&D?

It seems to me that your contribution is not relevant to the topic ?
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Reply #12 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 12:20pm
 
One can only hope the majority of the Australian public consider the countries long term future above their hip pocket come the next election.

However, who will these people vote for?

Labor?????

Whilst Gillard lead the party with bold initiatives such as CT & NDIS, does anyone truly believe that Shorten & Co have any interest in hard political sell of policies that are not instantaneous gratification??
Sorry I cant.

As for the Greens, well I actually blame them for the sh!thole we now find ourselves in.

Above anything else had they supported Rudd's ETS & got something instead of nothing our political players if not fortunes would be vastly different.
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Big win for Abbott - some think he isn't the worst ever.
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Reply #14 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 12:46pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 12:20pm:
One can only hope the majority of the Australian public consider the countries long term future above their hip pocket come the next election.

However, who will these people vote for?

Labor?????

Whilst Gillard lead the party with bold initiatives such as CT & NDIS, does anyone truly believe that Shorten & Co have any interest in hard political sell of policies that are not instantaneous gratification??
Sorry I cant.

As for the Greens, well I actually blame them for the sh!thole we now find ourselves in.

Above anything else had they supported Rudd's ETS & got something instead of nothing our political players if not fortunes would be vastly different.


Above anything else had they supported Rudd's ETS & got something instead of nothing our political players if not fortunes would be vastly different.

Yep they messed that one up really badly.
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