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Hockey's debt & deficit
Sep 29th, 2014 at 8:53am
 
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Despite all their rhetoric and hyperbole, both debt and deficit has blown out under the Abbott Government


THE ABBOTT GOVERNMENT HAS ABANDONED all pre-election commitments to reduce the nation’s ‘skyrocketing debt’. Borrowings have increased dramatically since the last election.

Now we know by how much.

Debt has increased by 13.7% over Labor’s levels. Interest payments have risen a staggering 28.6% to more than thirty million dollars per day — in just the first nine months.

The Final Budget Outcome 2013-14 was released this week by Treasurer Joe Hockey and Finance Minister Mathias Cormann. Buried in the long-awaited document is confirmation that net government debt at the end of June, nine months after the Coalition took office, has risen to $202.46 billion.

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That’s quite a blow-out.

The last monthly Finance Department report prepared under the previous Labor Government, for 31 August 2013, showed forecast end of year net debt at $178.10 billion.

The following monthly report, September 2013, prepared after the Coalition had taken charge, also showed projected year-end debt steady at $178.10 bn. So did the October and November reports.

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In December, however, following several decisions by the incoming treasurer, including abolishing the debt ceiling, the debt projection jumped to $191.52 billion.

This number was reaffirmed in January, February, March and April 2014. In May, it was increased to $197.85 billion. Then, without notice, monthly reports ceased.

Clearly, the actual outcome under the Coalition is a cool $24.36 billion more debt than forecast had Labor stayed on. Up 13.7%.

Hockey has, of course, attempted to blame Labor:

‘The Final Budget Outcome for the 2013-14 financial year is a budget report card on the previous Government’s irresponsible fiscal and economic management.’


Hardly. Mr Hockey has had more than 42 weeks – and a clear mandate – to reverse anything ‘irresponsible’. Instead, wasteful spending has increased, including dubious travel for ministers and their entourages, costly royal visits and expensive politically-motivated royal commissions.

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Table 5 of this week’s Treasury document shows that in just seven weeks between the May budget and June 30, expenditure on ‘legislative and executive affairs’ blew out by a staggering $68 million.

That was not Labor’s doing.

Other unjustifiable spending by the Abbott Government includes its punitive border protection regime and an $8.8 billion grant paid to the Reserve Bank that it didn’t ask for and doesn’t need. On the revenue side, equally damaging failures include abolishing the carbon and mining taxes without adequate replacement income. Those were not Labor decisions.

This week’s proof of the debt expansion follows confirmation after the May budget that Abbott and Hockey had more than doubled the projected budget deficits over Labor’s levels.

ABC Fact Check unit showed in June that government decisions increased the deficits for the four-year forward estimates period by more than $68 billion.



Clearly, there is no commitment whatsoever to

‘… balance the books, live within our means and return the budget to surplus as quickly as possible.’
Gone are the dire warnings before the last election of debt ‘spiralling out of control’
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Reply #1 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 8:53am
 
So if the debt was more than $202 billion in June and rising rapidly, what is it now, three months later? Well, we just don’t know. The debt reports produced monthly since December 1999 have suddenly stopped.

Independent Australia asked the Finance Department why this was and when the next statement would be released.

They replied:

‘The last Australian Government Monthly Financial Statements were published in May 2014. The June data is incorporated in the Final Budget Outcome document. Under the Charter of Budget Honesty Act 1998 the final date for the release of the Final Budget Outcome is 30 September.... The July and August 2014 Australian Government Monthly Financial Statements are prepared and published after the release of the Final Budget Outcome.’


How long after? We shall see.

Meanwhile, we now know what the extra debt is costing. A year ago, the Final Budget Outcome for 2012-13, released by incoming treasurer Hockey, showed net interest payments on the debt were $8.3 billion for that year – the last full year Labor managed the economy. Labor’s projected interest bill for 2013-14 was then $8.4 billion, according to Treasury and Finance’s Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Outlook.

The actual interest costs incurred for 2013-14, we discovered this week, was a thumping $10.8 billion. That’s up 28.6%.

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So Hockey is not just borrowing more money, but borrowing more expensive money.

Of course, this debt increase is of no immediate economic concern provided the investments are well-managed. There are compelling arguments that Australia’s debt has been too low given negative real interest rates and the opportunity for investments in productive infrastructure.

Australia’s debt to GDP ratio is a mere 12.8% — even with the recent Hockey blow-out. If that were doubled Australia’s debt would still be less than Switzerland’s. If tripled it would be less than Canada’s. It could be multiplied by six and remain lower than Germany’s and the UK’s.

All these countries have a triple A credit rating and hence no discernible debt problem. And, of course, neither does Australia.

Australia does have, however, a surplus of government hypocrisy and a deficit in truthfulness and competence.


http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbott-and-hockeys...
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Reply #2 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 8:57am
 
So even if people are stupid enough to vote back in a Labor Govt, it won't have a cashed up Treasury in which to pork barrel with for a change.  Grin


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Reply #4 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:27am
 
Swagman wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 8:57am:
So even if people are stupid enough to vote back in a Labor Govt, it won't have a cashed up Treasury in which to pork barrel with for a change.  Grin




They're both pretty adept at vote buying practices. I suspect you already know that.
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Reply #5 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:31am
 
The worst treasurer in Australia history = Liberal (Hockey)

The best treasurer in Australia history = Labor (Keating)
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Reply #6 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:40am
 
What is more concerning is the recession the shambles are causing, deliberately or by incompetence. That is really going to blow out the deficit.
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Reply #7 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:53am
 
John S wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:31am:
The worst treasurer in Australia history = Liberal (Hockey)

The best treasurer in Australia history = Labor (Keating)


I won't deny Hockey is crap.  Huh

Costello was the best Treasury by a country mile.....

Keating was ok.... but he was still under the thumb of the faceless collective.

crocodile wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:27am:
They're both pretty adept at vote buying practices. I suspect you already know that.


Very perceptive as usual Crock.

"Lesser of two weevils" comes to mind though. Tongue
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Reply #8 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:56am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:40am:
What is more concerning is the recession the shambles are causing, deliberately or by incompetence. that is really going to blow out the deficit.


The Senate has blown out the deficit by blocking the majority of the Budget's savings measures.

Effectively Aust is still running on Labor's overspending.

That's the line Hockey should be spruiking.
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Reply #9 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:00am
 
Swagman wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:56am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 9:40am:
What is more concerning is the recession the shambles are causing, deliberately or by incompetence. that is really going to blow out the deficit.


The Senate has blown out the deficit by blocking the majority of the Budget's savings measures.

Effectively Aust is still running on Labor's overspending.

That's the line Hockey should be spruiking.


He is, but nobody is buying it, MAY i repeat MAY, was a long time ago, one would think he would 2 and 2 together to see his budget was a failure back then and it still is. Hockey like Tony is an epic failure.
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Reply #10 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:05am
 
Its time wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:00am:
but nobody is buying it


Not nobody, those net-taxpayers with an ounce of perception.......
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Reply #11 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:22am
 
Swagman wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:05am:
Its time wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:00am:
but nobody is buying it


Not nobody, those net-taxpayers with an ounce of perception.......


Think you have been using the taxpayer line about as long as LNP still trying to blame Labor for their incompetence. May come as a revelation to you, but we all pay tax on our incomes, and it's quiet obvious the senate has some sort of moral compass by not supporting sloppies budget.
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Reply #12 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:43am
 
Its time wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:22am:
Swagman wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:05am:
Its time wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:00am:
but nobody is buying it


Not nobody, those net-taxpayers with an ounce of perception.......


Think you have been using the taxpayer line about as long as LNP still trying to blame Labor for their incompetence. May come as a revelation to you, but we all pay tax on our incomes, and it's quiet obvious the senate has some sort of moral compass by not supporting sloppies budget.


It's pretty difficult for anyone to totally avoid paying tax which is why I specifically refer to 'net' tax.  Roughly 80% of people pay zero or negative 'net' tax.  It's no friggin wonder they don't give a rat's bum about Govt debt because it's the 'net' tax-payer that ends up meeting the commitment.

The Senate has no moral compass.  It's political or megalomaniacal.
 
What is wrong with the Senate is that it is unrepresentative.  Drop-kicks with a smidgeon of the vote has disproportionate voting power.
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Reply #13 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:47am
 
Swagman wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:43am:
It's pretty difficult for anyone to totally avoid paying tax which is why I specifically refer to 'net' tax.  Roughly 80% of people pay zero or negative 'net' tax.


Correct Swaggy, assuming the 80% do not pay rates, GST or any other form of tax other than income tax, have multiple children that they get government support for, recieve the old age pension, the disability pension AND unemployment benefits.
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Reply #14 - Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:54am
 
Stratos wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:47am:
Swagman wrote on Sep 29th, 2014 at 10:43am:
It's pretty difficult for anyone to totally avoid paying tax which is why I specifically refer to 'net' tax.  Roughly 80% of people pay zero or negative 'net' tax.


Correct Swaggy, assuming the 80% do not pay rates, GST or any other form of tax other than income tax, have multiple children that they get government support for, recieve the old age pension, the disability pension AND unemployment benefits.


Tax paid less additional benefits received = net tax.

Is it collated as a Stat.  No.  That would upset the ochlocrats.

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