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Gillard has lost the plot!
Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:32pm

ELECTING Hillary Clinton as US president would send a powerful message to Islamic extremists that mistreating women is wrong, former prime minister Julia Gillard says.

THE former US secretary of state has not yet formally announced her candidacy for president in the 2016 elections but is thinking about it.

Ms Gillard will "loudly barrack from the sidelines" if the former first lady runs for office.

She said it would not only be important for the US but have a "huge global impact", particularly in the context of the rise of Islamic State, also known as ISIL, in Iraq and Syria.

"Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women.

"So to be able, in the world in which we live today with those security challenges, to see a great democracy elect a woman to lead it would be a real statement.

"(ISIL's philosophy) is anathema to everything I believe in and it's anathema to everything Hillary stands for."

Ms Gillard, who is promoting her memoir My Story, had no criticism of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's approach to tackling ISIL.

She said if there was a Labor prime minister in The Lodge they would have taken the same approach.

Bipartisanship was important when it came to national security issues and the government was blessed by having high-quality advice from its security agencies and defence force.

She said it was important all Australians worked at building a peaceful multicultural country.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/clinton-a-counter-punch-to-i...

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Re: Gillard has lost the plot!
Reply #1 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:34pm

(A) Not even the Americans are stupid enough to elect a woman to the presidency just to piss off a terrorist group and;

(B) Electing a woman as President of the United States is sure to make those ISIL terrorists pack up and go home - NOT!

Clearly, that imbecile Gillard still thinks it's all about gender and still hasn't got a clue. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:34pm:

(A) Not even the Americans are stupid enough to elect a woman to the presidency just to piss off a terrorist group and;

(B) Electing a woman as President of the United States is sure to make those ISIL terrorists pack up and go home - NOT!

Clearly, that imbecile Gillard still thinks it's all about gender and still hasn't got a clue. Roll Eyes

She may not, at that.

But you definitely don't.

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Re: Gillard has lost the plot!
Reply #3 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:46pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

ELECTING Hillary Clinton as US president would send a powerful message to Islamic extremists that mistreating women is wrong, former prime minister Julia Gillard says.

THE former US secretary of state has not yet formally announced her candidacy for president in the 2016 elections but is thinking about it.

Ms Gillard will "loudly barrack from the sidelines" if the former first lady runs for office.

She said it would not only be important for the US but have a "huge global impact", particularly in the context of the rise of Islamic State, also known as ISIL, in Iraq and Syria.

"Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women.

"So to be able, in the world in which we live today with those security challenges, to see a great democracy elect a woman to lead it would be a real statement.

"(ISIL's philosophy) is anathema to everything I believe in and it's anathema to everything Hillary stands for."

Ms Gillard, who is promoting her memoir My Story, had no criticism of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's approach to tackling ISIL.

She said if there was a Labor prime minister in The Lodge they would have taken the same approach.

Bipartisanship was important when it came to national security issues and the government was blessed by having high-quality advice from its security agencies and defence force.

She said it was important all Australians worked at building a peaceful multicultural country.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/clinton-a-counter-punch-to-i...

Why does not Gillard pop over and tell them herself, if its really so important to her. Not just really important for getting Gillard some long gone media attention.

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Re: Gillard has lost the plot!
Reply #4 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:21pm

Kat wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:34pm:

(A) Not even the Americans are stupid enough to elect a woman to the presidency just to piss off a terrorist group and;

(B) Electing a woman as President of the United States is sure to make those ISIL terrorists pack up and go home - NOT!

Clearly, that imbecile Gillard still thinks it's all about gender and still hasn't got a clue. Roll Eyes

She may not, at that.

But you definitely don't.

Really? Even when you agree with me, you've gotta have a dig? I pity you...

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Re: Gillard has lost the plot!
Reply #6 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

..."Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women...

interestingly, Islamic State has women police, and even a brigade of women soldiers numbering 60. How many women in combat roles in the Australian military?

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Ban lifted, but few women apply for combat roles

Only a handful of women have applied to take on direct combat roles in the military since the ban on frontline female soldiers was lifted in January.

The Australian Defence Force opened up its most demanding and dangerous frontline jobs, including special forces work, to female soldiers after a string of reviews and a Federal Government decision.

But so far fewer than 20 of the 8,000 women in the ADF have applied...

Probably scared that they would be raped by their own team.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-24/adfa-sex-suspects-are-senior-officers/5621...

http://www.smh.com.au/national/claims-adf-abuse-victims-ignored-by-specialist-ta...

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Reply #7 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:43pm

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

..."Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women...

interestingly, Islamic State has women police, and even a brigade of women soldiers numbering 60. How many women in combat roles in the Australian military?

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=255456&h=530&w=758

http://scd.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/france24_ct_api_bigger_169/article/i...

You're comparing a murderous terrorist group that beheads innocent people and uses civilians as human shields with a highly-respected military force which operates within strict rules of engagement and law to minimise civilian casualties? Do you ever think before you speak??? From your comments, it's highly unlikely! Roll Eyes

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Reply #8 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:47pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

..."Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women...

interestingly, Islamic State has women police, and even a brigade of women soldiers numbering 60. How many women in combat roles in the Australian military?

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=255456&h=530&w=758

http://scd.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/france24_ct_api_bigger_169/article/i...

You're comparing a murderous terrorist group that beheads innocent people and uses civilians as human shields with a highly-respected military force which operates within strict rules of engagement and law to minimise civilian casualties? Do you ever think before you speak??? From your comments, it's highly unlikely! Roll Eyes

Can you define "terrorist"?

Australian soldiers accused of throwing grenade into room of screaming children
http://www.warkillskids.com/2011/05/australian-soldiers-accused-of-throwing.html

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Re: Gillard has lost the plot!
Reply #9 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 3:07pm

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

]..."Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP[/highlight].

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women...

interestingly, Islamic State has women police, and even a brigade of women soldiers numbering 60. How many women in combat roles in the Australian military?

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=255456&h=530&w=758

http://scd.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/france24_ct_api_bigger_169/article/i...

You're comparing a murderous terrorist group that beheads innocent people and uses civilians as human shields with a highly-respected military force which operates within strict rules of engagement and law to minimise civilian casualties? Do you ever think before you speak??? From your comments, it's highly unlikely! Roll Eyes

Can you define "terrorist"?

Australian soldiers accused of throwing grenade into room of screaming children
http://www.warkillskids.com/2011/05/australian-soldiers-accused-of-throwing.html

Gillard is going for a come back, and is trying to round up women to assist her!

Labour leader all the way with the LNP has left the door wide open to his own demise and Gillard, well taught by Rudd, has got his number.

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Reply #10 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 3:23pm

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"Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women.

"So to be able, in the world in which we live today with those security challenges, to see a great democracy elect a woman to lead it would be a real statement.

Oh great idea. USA should elect someone based on gender. That way they can show the world that gender doesn't matter... Roll Eyes

Of course ISIL will respect this and reconsider their treatment of women. In no way will this cause them to look at America with even less respect than it does now...

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Reply #12 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 3:44pm

Quantum wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 3:23pm:

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"Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women.

"So to be able, in the world in which we live today with those security challenges, to see a great democracy elect a woman to lead it would be a real statement.

Oh great idea. USA should elect someone based on gender. That way they can show the world that gender doesn't matter... Roll Eyes

Of course ISIL will respect this and reconsider their treatment of women. In no way will this cause them to look at America with even less respect than it does now...

Gillard is generally not a stupid person but when the topic is gender, she is a brain-dead twit. I actually hope CLinton runs for president and wins but certainly not because of her gender and in fact, far from it. Gillard would support any woman, no matter how useless to be president.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #13 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 3:58pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

..."Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women...

interestingly, Islamic State has women police, and even a brigade of women soldiers numbering 60. How many women in combat roles in the Australian military?

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=255456&h=530&w=758

http://scd.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/france24_ct_api_bigger_169/article/i...

You're comparing a murderous terrorist group that beheads innocent people and uses civilians as human shields with a highly-respected military force which operates within strict rules of engagement and law to minimise civilian casualties? Do you ever think before you speak??? From your comments, it's highly unlikely! Roll Eyes

Like the 600 000 dead innocent women and children under HOWARDS war that achieved nothing , you must be joking.

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Reply #14 - Sep 29^th, 2014 at 4:20pm

Its time wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 3:58pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 2:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

..."Of the things that are being fought over in this security situation, pivotal to them is women's rights and women's roles," Ms Gillard told AAP.

"ISIL is a philosophy that has at its core the subjugation of women...

interestingly, Islamic State has women police, and even a brigade of women soldiers numbering 60. How many women in combat roles in the Australian military?

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=255456&h=530&w=758

http://scd.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/france24_ct_api_bigger_169/article/i...

You're comparing a murderous terrorist group that beheads innocent people and uses civilians as human shields with a highly-respected military force which operates within strict rules of engagement and law to minimise civilian casualties? Do you ever think before you speak??? From your comments, it's highly unlikely! Roll Eyes

Like the 600 000 dead innocent women and children under HOWARDS war that achieved nothing , you must be joking.

599,900 of whom were killed by shia/Shiite violence. try a little fact and context for a change.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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