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Abbott Govt Youth Welfare Changes Ruled Unjust (Read 343 times)
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Reply #15 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 5:33pm
 
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Well said St George, get rid of work for the dole rubbish.     Wink


Yes work for the Newstart benefit is more accurate
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Reply #16 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:29pm
 
Bam wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 11:06am:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 7:45am:
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Well said St George, get rid of work for the dole rubbish.     Wink


so you would support the government just ignoring the youth of Australia and showing no interest in them.
that is a pathway to disaster.

That is what would happen if the government wilfully ignores unemployed youth for six months.

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people will tolerate  being involved in programs they don't particularly like (I'm sure many school children didn't like compulsory education) . but they will decay if they are just ignored.
work for the dole or compulsory study or whatever is a sign we care.

You still have no idea what really happens at Work for the Dole. Work for the Dole is nothing more than an expensive timewasting exercise and a punishment for being without work.

Dig a hole here. Now fill it in. Sort these beads. Sort these beads again...

We would be better off to abolish Work for the Dole and use the savings plus an additional $10 billion or so to create half a million real government jobs at the minimum wage that people can do when they have nothing else available. The jobs wouldn't be great, but they would put money into pockets, get people off the dole and real community work would get done. We could remove graffiti, clean rubbish from waterways, remove junk and noxious weeds from national parks and other unglamorous stuff that doesn't get done because Work for the Dole isn't community work no matter how much one may pretend otherwise.



I could live with that.  Maybe a bit less than minimum wage , but better than paying money out for nothing. Sounds like quite a good idea

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Re: Abbott Govt Youth Welfare Changes Ruled Unjust
Reply #17 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 7:01pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 6:50am:
it is embarrassing for the government to have its own MPs claim its measures break international ­obligations. 


Since when has the Abbott mob worried about embarrassing itself ?






... or
breaching international human rights laws
, for that matter

Look no further than its
imprisonment of children
, in off-shore "detention facilities"




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Re: Abbott Govt Youth Welfare Changes Ruled Unjust
Reply #18 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 7:56pm
 
Swagman wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
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Well said St George, get rid of work for the dole rubbish.     Wink


Yes work for the Newstart benefit is more accurate


It's not. Not even close.

Firstly because it's almost NEVER a 'new start' ('different rut' would be FAR more accurate).

Secondly, because it does NOT 'benefit' the recipient, who cannot even afford to live on it.

And if you want people to work pay them a wage. Paying No-Start AND expecting someone
to perform menial (even child-like) non-productive 'work' at that rate of pay is NOTHING
less than slavery, and is actually in breach of our piss-poor excuse for a Constitution.
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