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Reply #45 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 1:55pm
 
Love your style, Animal Mutha

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Reply #46 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 1:56pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 1:55pm:
Love your style, Animal Mutha

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Reply #47 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm
 
there's no accounting for taste

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Reply #48 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




Smith, I would have expected you to be more concerned with Italy, rather than Oz

Seen the recent news?   Italian government (of the minute) is offering Ities 30 Euros per night I think, to put up an illegal migrant


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Reply #49 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

one has to enjoy it when one idiot complements another for being an idiot Grin  It's great stuff.
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Reply #50 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
You are a litmus test for the health of the people smuggling industry . When you're  happy with the issue most Australians  aren't. That's because there's burning camps, dead people, diplomatic concerns  and billions going down the toilet. When we (most Australians ) are happy it's not a mess. So who's in the wrong and has a misguided mindset???
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Reply #51 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:47pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 12:45pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 12:41pm:
actually, legally you ARE still doing something illegal.  What changes is that you have a valid DEFENCE against the act.  It might seem technical to you but it is a real distinction and is very apt here.  Seeking asylum after arriving illegally is fine but you are still committing an illegal act that has a DEFENCE of seeking and being granted asylum.  IF you are not granted asylum you have no defence.


it is not a defence ... whats to defend? you've done nothing illegal and will never be charged ... no defence necessary


I think the nuances of this discussion is too much for you.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #52 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:48pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 12:46pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 12:43pm:
it is illegal to enter this and every other country without permission


but they have permission
, we gave them that permission when we signed the UN treaty.  They don't need to give permission to each individual asylum seeker before they come



complete rubbish. NO ONE has permission to enter ANY COUNTRY illegally.
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Re: No more ‘anchor babies’
Reply #53 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 3:00pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

one has to enjoy it when one idiot complements another for being an idiot Grin  It's great stuff.


so says the clown that thinks it is not illegal to break the law.

weird thinking...
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Reply #54 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 3:00pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

one has to enjoy it when one idiot complements another for being an idiot Grin  It's great stuff.


so says the clown that thinks it is not illegal to break the law.

weird thinking...



No wonder you believe in fairy tales, you're just very, very thick.  Look up the difference in legal terms, ESPECIALLY given the migration act is a LEGAL document, not a bogan's toilet roll.




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Re: No more ‘anchor babies’
Reply #55 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:32pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




Smith, I would have expected you to be more concerned with Italy, rather than Oz

Seen the recent news?   Italian government (of the minute) is offering Ities 30 Euros per night I think, to put up an illegal migrant




I'm not surprised you thought that ... why would you start getting anything right now?
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Re: No more ‘anchor babies’
Reply #56 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:44pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 3:00pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

one has to enjoy it when one idiot complements another for being an idiot Grin  It's great stuff.


so says the clown that thinks it is not illegal to break the law.

weird thinking...



No wonder you believe in fairy tales, you're just very, very thick.  Look up the difference in legal terms, ESPECIALLY given the migration act is a LEGAL document, not a bogan's toilet roll.






no, you actually said it is not illegal to break the law.  that is about as wrong as it is possible to get since the very definition of illegal is to break the law.
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Re: No more ‘anchor babies’
Reply #57 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 5:26pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:44pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 3:00pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

one has to enjoy it when one idiot complements another for being an idiot Grin  It's great stuff.


so says the clown that thinks it is not illegal to break the law.

weird thinking...



No wonder you believe in fairy tales, you're just very, very thick.  Look up the difference in legal terms, ESPECIALLY given the migration act is a LEGAL document, not a bogan's toilet roll.






no, you actually said it is not illegal to break the law.  that is about as wrong as it is possible to get since the very definition of illegal is to break the law.

no, dumby, what I said was that breaking the law does not always imply illegality.

And, ONCE AGAIN, in any case this has nothing to do with whether a refugee can be ILLEGAL or not.  By definition a refugee can not be an ILLEGAL refugee.

bugger me, the typical round and round with you.  worse than armpit.
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Reply #58 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 6:08pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 5:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:44pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 3:00pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

one has to enjoy it when one idiot complements another for being an idiot Grin  It's great stuff.


so says the clown that thinks it is not illegal to break the law.

weird thinking...



No wonder you believe in fairy tales, you're just very, very thick.  Look up the difference in legal terms, ESPECIALLY given the migration act is a LEGAL document, not a bogan's toilet roll.






no, you actually said it is not illegal to break the law.  that is about as wrong as it is possible to get since the very definition of illegal is to break the law.

no, dumby, what I said was that breaking the law does not always imply illegality.

And, ONCE AGAIN, in any case this has nothing to do with whether a refugee can be ILLEGAL or not.  By definition a refugee can not be an ILLEGAL refugee.

bugger me, the typical round and round with you.  worse than armpit.


wrong again.  DEFINITIIONALLY, breaking a law means acting illegally.  to think otherwise would require the kind of mental gymnastics you are employing (and still failing).

your understanding of what a refugee is and isn't is also pitiful.  A refugee is not hard to define - as long as they are outside the country.  But once they are here they either got here legally or illegally.  there is no 'refugee only' exception made to entry.  You come with permission with a visa issued by the aust govt (refugee or not) or you come illegally.

You are making any discussion on refugees impossible by insisting they have a RIGHT above that of the law to be here.  They don't.  Australia decides (by law) to accept around 20,000 refugees per year. WE CHOOSE. They don't.  They come with permission or they end up in detention because.... yes here we go again... THEY ARRIVED ILLEGALLY.

But I am still loving your insistence that it is possible to break the law and not be committing an illegal act.  That is a priceless mangling of logic and commonsense.
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Reply #59 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 6:21pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 6:08pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 5:26pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:44pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 4:18pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 3:00pm:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:05pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 2:01pm:
there's no accounting for taste

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

one has to enjoy it when one idiot complements another for being an idiot Grin  It's great stuff.


so says the clown that thinks it is not illegal to break the law.

weird thinking...



No wonder you believe in fairy tales, you're just very, very thick.  Look up the difference in legal terms, ESPECIALLY given the migration act is a LEGAL document, not a bogan's toilet roll.






no, you actually said it is not illegal to break the law.  that is about as wrong as it is possible to get since the very definition of illegal is to break the law.

no, dumby, what I said was that breaking the law does not always imply illegality.

And, ONCE AGAIN, in any case this has nothing to do with whether a refugee can be ILLEGAL or not.  By definition a refugee can not be an ILLEGAL refugee.

bugger me, the typical round and round with you.  worse than armpit.


wrong again.  DEFINITIIONALLY, breaking a law means acting illegally.  to think otherwise would require the kind of mental gymnastics you are employing (and still failing).

your understanding of what a refugee is and isn't is also pitiful.  A refugee is not hard to define - as long as they are outside the country.  But once they are here they either got here legally or illegally.  there is no 'refugee only' exception made to entry.  You come with permission with a visa issued by the aust govt (refugee or not) or you come illegally.

You are making any discussion on refugees impossible by insisting they have a RIGHT above that of the law to be here.  They don't.  Australia decides (by law) to accept around 20,000 refugees per year. WE CHOOSE. They don't.  They come with permission or they end up in detention because.... yes here we go again... THEY ARRIVED ILLEGALLY.

But I am still loving your insistence that it is possible to break the law and not be committing an illegal act.  That is a priceless mangling of logic and commonsense.

Wow that was the biggest load of garbage I have ever read. Well done, stupid Grin

1) We have a voluntary permanent resettlement program that takes in 17,000 people per year for PERMANENT resettlement.  But that doesn't extinguish our responsibilities under the refugee convention to ALSO process any claimant who has sought asylum from Australia. We just don't need to give them permanent settlement, but we must offer them protection if we find them to be a refugee. There is NO NUMBER clause on this. And if your donkey memory cared to work you'd remember the case only a few months ago where scum tried to suggest we didn't need to give protection visas to someone (say they are refugee under our domestic law) because we reached a quota, and he was SHUT DOWN by the high court.  You dip.

2) When you break the law you break the law. Some laws you break and it means youv'e acted unlawfully. Others you break and it means you've acted illegally. Go learn the law before commenting.

3) A refugee can NEVER be an ILLEGAL REFUGEE.  Grin  Tell me HOW THEY CAN BE ILLEGAL REFUGEES?  A person who has received a refugee status can somehow be illegal?  What? Grin

4) And there actually is a refugee only exception made to entry: its called the refugee convention which explicitely says that it doesn't matter if the countries law was broken, that couldn't be used to deny the refugee status if they are genuine. Hence there is no punishment. You don't see us going, "Oh you are a refugee. We agree, here is your visa. Now we are arresting you or fininng you for breaking our law of entry."

You are a MASSIVE dipstick on this. Just stop while you still have some dignity left.
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