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Reply #120 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:15pm

moses wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:33am:

New figures are: Australain muslims are 16,600 times more likely to be actively taking part in islamic terror groups, than any non muslim Australian.

Gee, that's quite a revision there, Moses. Yes, I imagine only Muslims would take part in Islamic terror groups.

Unless you include the Christian Armenians and Ananda Margas the old boy blames for Muslim terrorism.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Islam: In the throes of an Islamic 'Reformation'? Reply #121 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:22pm Yes I admit I'm inclined to believe figures that fit the apologist's claims. Australian muslims are 16,600 times more likely to be a terrorist than any body else.
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Reply #122 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:32pm

moses wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:33am:

New figures are: Australain muslims are 16,600 times more likely to be actively taking part in islamic terror groups, than any non muslim Australian.

Yes, that makes sense.

I can't really imagine anyone other than Muslims actively taking part in Islamic terror groups.

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Islam: In the throes of an Islamic 'Reformation'? Reply #123 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:45pm Don't we have a Commissioner for discrimination in Australaia? How dare non muslim Australians not join islamic terror groups?
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Reply #124 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 2:25pm

moses wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:22pm:

Yes I admit I'm inclined to believe figures that fit the apologist's claims. Australian muslims are 16,600 times more likely to be a terrorist than any body else.

No no, Australian Muslims are 16,600 times more likely to be an Muslim terrorist than anyone else, remember?

moses wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:33am:

New figures are: Australain muslims are 16,600 times more likely to be actively taking part in islamic terror groups, than any non muslim Australian.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96560	Re: Islam: In the throes of an Islamic 'Reformation'? Reply #125 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 2:31pm moses wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 12:45pm: Don't we have a Commissioner for discrimination in Australaia? How dare non muslim Australians not join islamic terror groups? I know, it's so inconvenient to your ever-shifting argument, Moses.
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Reply #126 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 6:59pm

I admit that I will change my mind if evidence comes forward that shows I got it wrong, no problems there for me at all.

That is why I was swayed by the apologist's excuse / argument re the likelihood of a muslim being an active terrorist.

My revised position is:

According to islamic terrorism apologists, if there are no figures to show how many Australian non muslims are actively participating in terrorist activities, there definitely would be some by a factor of 0 to any given number.

Well in order to be fair I have revised my stats on the islamic terror apologist's reasoning that there absolutely has to be more that we don't know about.

We know for absolute certain there are 161 Australian muslims actively taking part in islamic terror. Using a lower ratio than the apologists, I will use the ratio of 1:1

Therefore 161 Australian muslim terrorists we know about, add 161 or more to give the islamic terror apologists theory some credence, we have at least 332 Australian muslims actively taking part in islamic terrorism. (by islamic terror apologists logic)

2% = 332 then 100% = 16,600.

New figures are: Australain muslims are 16,600 times more likely to be actively taking part in islamic terror groups, than any non muslim Australian actively participating in a terrorist group.

Of course Karnal if someone could give some believable, verifiable figures as to how many non muslim Australians are actively engaging in terror activities and support, I'll always go with verifiable facts.

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Reply #127 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 7:45pm

Moses, the one thing we can rely upon is that you will never adhere to facts. It’s been proven time and time again.

I’ll give you a statistic you can take to the bank. Nine out of ten Moses posts are completely nuts.

Mind you, I have to say you’ve improved. Your posts used to be not only nuts, but aggro as well. You’re learned some manners, and for this I’m grateful.

Gud is great, no?

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Reply #128 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 9:13pm

moses wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 6:59pm:

I admit that I will change my mind if evidence comes forward that shows I got it wrong, no problems there for me at all.

That is why I was swayed by the apologist's excuse / argument re the likelihood of a muslim being an active terrorist.

My revised position is:

According to islamic terrorism apologists, if there are no figures to show how many Australian non muslims are actively participating in terrorist activities, there definitely would be some by a factor of 0 to any given number.

Well in order to be fair I have revised my stats on the islamic terror apologist's reasoning that there absolutely has to be more that we don't know about.

We know for absolute certain there are 161 Australian muslims actively taking part in islamic terror. Using a lower ratio than the apologists, I will use the ratio of 1:1

Therefore 161 Australian muslim terrorists we know about, add 161 or more to give the islamic terror apologists theory some credence, we have at least 332 Australian muslims actively taking part in islamic terrorism. (by islamic terror apologists logic)

2% = 332 then 100% = 16,600.

New figures are: Australain muslims are 16,600 times more likely to be actively taking part in islamic terror groups, than any non muslim Australian actively participating in a terrorist group.

Of course Karnal if someone could give some believable, verifiable figures as to how many non muslim Australians are actively engaging in terror activities and support, I'll always go with verifiable facts.

The Deputy Federal Police Commissioner reported on Q&A that a number of non-Muslims have been charged of fighting in foreign conflicts. Among them: a Christian convicted last year in Brisbane for fighting in West Papua.

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Reply #129 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:23pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 9:13pm:

The Deputy Federal Police Commissioner reported on Q&A that a number of non-Muslims have been charged of fighting in foreign conflicts. Among them: a Christian convicted last year in Brisbane for fighting in West Papua.

Careful, K. You're on the verge of admitting that the no-fighting-overseas laws aren't Islamophobic, racially motivated, or otherwise directed towards our Muslim community.

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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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Reply #130 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:35pm

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 9:13pm:

The Deputy Federal Police Commissioner reported on Q&A that a number of non-Muslims have been charged of fighting in foreign conflicts. Among them: a Christian convicted last year in Brisbane for fighting in West Papua.

Careful, K. You're on the verge of admitting that the no-fighting-overseas laws aren't Islamophobic, racially motivated, or otherwise directed towards our Muslim community.

The law you’re referring to has only just been enacted.

The Brisbane case and others were prosecuted under the 1978 foreign.fighter’s act.

You don’t think the new laws are directed at Muslims?

I don’t think anyone believes that.

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Re: Islam: In the throes of an Islamic 'Reformation'?
Reply #131 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 12:41am

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 7:33am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 11:36pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 10:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 11:33pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 7:51pm:

When carried to the extreme level that you and your compatriots do

Two words for you, looney - bugger Off. Who the bloody f**k are you to say what is or is not 'extreme', you self-righteous fascist?

Adjust your self-perceptions, lunatic. You are no authority in anything. Elevating verbal criticism to 'extreme level' makes you a self-identifying imbecile

Thank you, Soren for demonstrating just how extreme your attitudes are. Do you really consider yourself moderate with that sort of language? Or the attitudes you routinely display towards Muslims and Islam? Roll Eyes

You are the worst kind of soft fascist, Brian. Anything you cannot properly argue you declare 'extreme'. Or bigoted. Or racist. You are a no-idea little fascist: you want submission to your narrow little political agenda and anyone who doesn't conform is denounced, as if your denunciation meant anything.

I hate ratty little men like you who resort to denunciation as their opening gambit. Despicable and dangerous little bastards you are.

I hate ratty little men who attempt to persecute innocent people and who declare people guilty because of association and then keep resorting to ad hominem insults when you're called on it, like a child who's been caught with it's hand in the biscuit barrel. Roll Eyes

I declared innocent people guilty? Persecuted innocents? Where? Show.

Your continued persecution of all Muslims, Soren. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 42404	Re: Islam: In the throes of an Islamic 'Reformation'? Reply #132 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 12:42am moses wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 11:46am: Anybody who makes excuses for them. I haven't seen anybody make excuses for Terrorism, Moses. Would you care to post a quote?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Islam: In the throes of an Islamic 'Reformation'? Reply #133 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:58am Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 12:41am: Your continued persecution of all Muslims, Soren. All Muslims? Really? You must have some quotes showing this, no?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96560	Re: Islam: In the throes of an Islamic 'Reformation'? Reply #134 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:04am Yes, better correct that, Brian. All tinted races.
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