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Re: What is holding the islamic world back?
Reply #30 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:09pm
 
I’ve posted here now for quite a few years, Caliph, and I’ve learned one thing.

Those who use the word idiot are, in fact, deeply hurt. Most have been dismissed and ignored as children. They then play this out in forums like this, hoping that expelling insults like idiot will, in some small way, remove the pain from themselves.

It never helps, of course, and you’re left throwing more insults out, and more, until you’re demanding entire groups of people be put to death.

You’re not an idiot, Caliph, you’re just hurt. My advice is to use your life to help someone, even if it’s just in a small way. This makes you feel less important, and you don’t take those insults hurled at you as a child so seriously.

Give it a go. You’ll develop more empathy and peace within yourself. No one is an idiot, least of all you.
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Reply #31 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:17pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
I’ve posted here now for quite a few years, Caliph, and I’ve learned one thing.

Those who use the word idiot are, in fact, deeply hurt. Most have been dismissed and ignored as children. They then play this out in forums like this, hoping that expelling insults like idiot will, in some small way, remove the pain from themselves.

It never helps, of course, and you’re left throwing more insults out, and more, until you’re demanding entire groups of people be put to death.

You’re not an idiot, Caliph, you’re just hurt. My advice is to use your life to help someone, even if it’s just in a small way. This makes you feel less important, and you don’t take those insults hurled at you as a child so seriously.

Give it a go. You’ll develop more empathy and peace within yourself. No one is an idiot, least of all you.

But sometimes an idiot is just an idiot. For example comparing jihadis to forum posters is just idiotic. It may  hurt your sense of self-esteem, PB, but more often than not you say simply idiotic things. What is more, you like saying idiotic things. You think it’s clever to talk gibberish and shite. But it isn’t. It’s just idiotic.


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Reply #32 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:27pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
I’ve posted here now for quite a few years, Caliph, and I’ve learned one thing.

Those who use the word idiot are, in fact, deeply hurt. Most have been dismissed and ignored as children. They then play this out in forums like this, hoping that expelling insults like idiot will, in some small way, remove the pain from themselves.

It never helps, of course, and you’re left throwing more insults out, and more, until you’re demanding entire groups of people be put to death.

You’re not an idiot, Caliph, you’re just hurt. My advice is to use your life to help someone, even if it’s just in a small way. This makes you feel less important, and you don’t take those insults hurled at you as a child so seriously.

Give it a go. You’ll develop more empathy and peace within yourself. No one is an idiot, least of all you.

But sometimes an idiot is just an idiot. For example comparing jihadis to forum posters is just idiotic. It may  hurt your sense of self-esteem, PB, but more often than not you say simply idiotic things. What is more, you like saying idiotic things. You think it’s clever to talk gibberish and shite. But it isn’t. It’s just idiotic.




Karnal is just back ground static designed to distract.  Why someone would want to dedicate so much time and effort to posting soooooooooo much containing so little is a subject by itself.
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Re: What is holding the islamic world back?
Reply #33 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:42pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:09pm:
I’ve posted here now for quite a few years, Caliph, and I’ve learned one thing.

Those who use the word idiot are, in fact, deeply hurt. Most have been dismissed and ignored as children. They then play this out in forums like this, hoping that expelling insults like idiot will, in some small way, remove the pain from themselves.

It never helps, of course, and you’re left throwing more insults out, and more, until you’re demanding entire groups of people be put to death.

You’re not an idiot, Caliph, you’re just hurt. My advice is to use your life to help someone, even if it’s just in a small way. This makes you feel less important, and you don’t take those insults hurled at you as a child so seriously.

Give it a go. You’ll develop more empathy and peace within yourself. No one is an idiot, least of all you.

But sometimes an idiot is just an idiot. For example comparing jihadis to forum posters is just idiotic. It may  hurt your sense of self-esteem, PB, but more often than not you say simply idiotic things. What is more, you like saying idiotic things. You think it’s clever to talk gibberish and shite. But it isn’t. It’s just idiotic.




And yet, you’ve just avoided the question. Again.

How are calls for carpet-bombing the tinted races any different to calls for terrorist attacks?

Idiotic or not, I’m still curious. What makes your calls to violence, death and destruction superior to any others?
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Reply #34 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:10am
 
Soren will have two obvious answers, I predict.

1. Because it is he, representing the righteous calling for the destruction and death of the Musselman, Karnal.

2. Because he isn't a Musselman and you should stop being a spineless apologetic by implying that him calling for the carpet bombing of Musselmen can be compared to their calling for Terrorism to be conducted against the West.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 1:47am
 

What is holding the islamic world back?





gandalf,

Holding the ISLAMIC world back?

From accomplishing the aims of ISLAM ?

Nothing.

Every day, in every way, the moslem is getting closer and closer to his 'perfection'.

It is as plain as the nose on your face, gandalf.

Surely you must see that ?







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Fouad Belkacem, a peace loving moslem - Belgium



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Belgium: Jihad Mega-Trial Begins

by Soeren Kern
October 6, 2014

    "If you want to land in hell like all unbelievers that is your problem. ... We do not have an ounce of respect for you, infidels, nor for the way you live.

Our religion and way of life are superior to yours." — Fouad Belkacem.

    Belkacem called for violence against the West and said that becoming a jihadist was the greatest act of submission to Allah.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4757/belgium-jihad-trial






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Cognitive dissonance

Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term to define the condition that results whenever an individual attempts to hold two incompatible, if not contradictory, thoughts at the same time even in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance





An example of the moslem mind, and, the cognitive dissonance that is resident therein....

e.g.
"ISLAM rejects terror.       ISLAM promotes peace and harmony in society.'


AND then, there is ISLAM....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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Reply #36 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 10:16am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:10am:
Soren will have two obvious answers, I predict.

1. Because it is he, representing the righteous calling for the destruction and death of the Musselman, Karnal.

2. Because he isn't a Musselman and you should stop being a spineless apologetic by implying that him calling for the carpet bombing of Musselmen can be compared to their calling for Terrorism to be conducted against the West.   Roll Eyes


I beg to differ, BR. I predict Old Boy will have two obvious answers:

1. Mendacious, deceitful, twisted, lying PB.

2. Idiot.

Food for thought, eh?
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Reply #37 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:21pm
 

QUESTION;
What is holding the islamic world back?



If you have watched this movie [below] you may realise what the answer is, to that question.              Grin




IMAGE...
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"Allah akbar!!!"
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Four Lions (2010)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1341167/





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #38 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:52pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:42pm:
And yet, you’ve just avoided the question. Again.

How are calls for carpet-bombing the tinted races any different to calls for terrorist attacks?

Idiotic or not, I’m still curious. What makes your calls to violence, death and destruction superior to any others?


You cravenly,  mendaciously and yes, lyingly misrepesent me.


We were talking about war and response to enemies. I used the example of Germany (not tinted) and Japan (slightly tinted).
I said we should not get into any war unless we are prepared to kill the enemy until it knows it is beaten. 
There is no point of going to war in order to spare the enemy. If we beat them and they have an election and choose a government that continues to be our enemy, then they are clearly not thinking that they are beaten and so a war will again ensue and the  killing can be resumed IF we want to beat them. .

Carpetbombing means killing the enemy until it taps the mat.

This is what happed with Germany and Japan and Serbia and now they are playing nice.
It did not happen with Iraq, Iran, Labia, Syria.




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Reply #39 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 3:55pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
Carpetbombing means killing the enemy until it taps the mat.


How can they "tap the mat" if they are all dead and the mat has been destroyed by your bombing?

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This is what happed with Germany and Japan and Serbia and now they are playing nice.
It did not happen with Iraq, Iran, Labia, Syria.


Funny about that.  Didn't work in Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia or Chechenya either.   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #40 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 7:30pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 6th, 2014 at 9:42pm:
And yet, you’ve just avoided the question. Again.

How are calls for carpet-bombing the tinted races any different to calls for terrorist attacks?

Idiotic or not, I’m still curious. What makes your calls to violence, death and destruction superior to any others?


You cravenly,  mendaciously and yes, lyingly misrepesent me.


We were talking about war and response to enemies. I used the example of Germany (not tinted) and Japan (slightly tinted).
I said we should not get into any war unless we are prepared to kill the enemy until it knows it is beaten. 
There is no point of going to war in order to spare the enemy. If we beat them and they have an election and choose a government that continues to be our enemy, then they are clearly not thinking that they are beaten and so a war will again ensue and the  killing can be resumed IF we want to beat them. .

Carpetbombing means killing the enemy until it taps the mat.

This is what happed with Germany and Japan and Serbia and now they are playing nice.
It did not happen with Iraq, Iran, Labia, Syria.



Sorry, old chap, are you saying we shouldn’t carpetbomb Iraq, Iran, Labia and Syria?

That’s news to me.

Admirable restraint, old chap. I agree.

Carpetbombing should have an objective of some kind - preferably military. It’s not just something to - what was the word you used?

Satisfaction. Yes, it’s not a tool to satisfy our old boy instincts.

Good to see we’re on the same page, old chap. Thanks for the clarification.

You don’t want to carpetbomb the Muselman.Jolly good.

Now, onto the tinted races - would you like to retract your statements on them as well?
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Reply #41 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 7:43pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 3:55pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
Carpetbombing means killing the enemy until it taps the mat.


How can they "tap the mat" if they are all dead and the mat has been destroyed by your bombing?

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This is what happed with Germany and Japan and Serbia and now they are playing nice.
It did not happen with Iraq, Iran, Labia, Syria.


Funny about that.  Didn't work in Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia or Chechenya either.   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


That’s when you want to contain them or when yiu are supporting puppets.
But if you want to win, you go for unconditional surrender. That means beating them until they know they have lost. Unconditional surrender, that’s what happened with the nazis and japan.

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Reply #42 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 7:46pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 3:55pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
Carpetbombing means killing the enemy until it taps the mat.


How can they "tap the mat" if they are all dead and the mat has been destroyed by your bombing?

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This is what happed with Germany and Japan and Serbia and now they are playing nice.
It did not happen with Iraq, Iran, Labia, Syria.


Funny about that.  Didn't work in Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia or Chechenya either.   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


True. It didn’t work on Mother England either. You’d think the Krauts among us would remember that.

It’s not that they’re idiots or anything. They just have such awful memories.

I blame senility.

What do you blame, old boy?
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Reply #43 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 7:50pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 7:43pm:
That means beating them until they know they have lost. Unconditional surrender, that’s what happened with the nazis and japan.



Ah.
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Reply #44 - Oct 7th, 2014 at 8:01pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 7:46pm:
|dev|null wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 3:55pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 7th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
Carpetbombing means killing the enemy until it taps the mat.


How can they "tap the mat" if they are all dead and the mat has been destroyed by your bombing?

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This is what happed with Germany and Japan and Serbia and now they are playing nice.
It did not happen with Iraq, Iran, Labia, Syria.


Funny about that.  Didn't work in Vietnam, Laos or Cambodia or Chechenya either.   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


True. It didn’t work on Mother England either. You’d think the Krauts among us would remember that.

It’s not that they’re idiots or anything. They just have such awful memories.

I blame senility.

What do you blame, old boy?

I blame your idiocy.

England evidently wasn’t beaten into surrender by Germany. Yet you come up with your usual gibberish because that’s all you can do.
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