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Reply #30 - Oct 8^th, 2014 at 5:38pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Jesus Christ slept with Mary Magdelene, a prostitute.

Where the hell did you get this from?

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He also consorted with a group of young, virile men, bathing with them in the Sea of Galillee. I wonder what they got up to? Grin

Bathing with them? Young virile men? You make it up as you go.

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Animal Mutha Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83 Gender:	Re: 54 year old groom then shags 9 year old. No jail Reply #31 - Oct 8^th, 2014 at 5:52pm Is that in the same haddith that extols the virtues of camel urine?
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Reply #32 - Oct 8^th, 2014 at 7:36pm

Raven wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 2:42pm:

All of them are the same frankly.

I agree!

Wally 1 now agrees also. He has asked a Christian friend which Church he attends so he can see the light! Just got a pm from him confirming it.

Animal Mutha wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 5:52pm:

Is that in the same haddith that extols the virtues of camel urine?

Yes its most efficacious in every case, according to the original Morehammered.

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Reply #33 - Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:58pm

Animal Mutha wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 3:25am:

I think the point is that Joseph was a jew. Even though Jesus was a jew he represented a new way of thinking. Muslims and muslim apologists take this 'the jews did it too, sir' defence. However, Australia is largely a Christian country. I wish muslims and muslim apologists would stick to the facts.

Be good if Islamophobes did as well and didn't attempt to project 21st century Western values onto 15th Century Arab society. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #34 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 2:04am

Adamant wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 3:58pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Jesus Christ

I read the other day an historian claimed that JC did not exist. If this is so proven what will happen to the last prophets take on things.

Will the Abrahamic religions finally be proven to be a lie?

No genuine historian would seriously claim that "Jebuz" is a real person. It's very much conclusive that "Jebuz" was nothing more than a storybook character. You know, the bible story, which is held in the same respect as the one about talking snakes. Or how the "whole world" flooded and only Noah and his family were able to repopulate the earth.

Because, people, had there been people seriously contending that Jebuz could do magic at his own command, then lords and authority figures would have pulled up and made use of Jebuz's abilities. But they didn't. And even if it was a post execution revelation to authorities that he could do something that wild, then they (anyone who cared enough) would have taken more care with his burial to mark the moment more officially. None of this waiting until America's ancestors were bullied enough leave Europe, and revive the religion in greater numbers during the 1500s to 1700s in America, making an effort to give the religion credibility.

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Reply #35 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 3:11am

Archival records of the census taken in Jesus' birth year in the vatican. Depictions in Roman histories such as 'the annals' by Tacitus and 'lives' by Plutarch. Four witness accounts in the New Testament. Jewish history. Islamic history. I think you would have a harder time proving Columbus or Shakespeare existed. Let's not confuse the nonsense of the miracles with the strong evidence of Jesus' birth/death.
As for projecting Christian values onto Muslims, if I was ever to do that in Rihad, may my head be quickly separated from my shoulders.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: 54 year old groom then shags 9 year old. No jail Reply #36 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 11:24am Why Are The Ancient Historians Silent About Jesus? Why, indeed? Perhaps because he never existed?
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Reply #37 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 12:18pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 2:04am:

Because, people, had there been people seriously contending that Jebuz could do magic at his own command, then lords and authority figures would have pulled up and made use of Jebuz's abilities. But they didn't.

Thats about the most unconvincing "proof" you could have come up with.

The reality:

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There is near unanimity among scholars that Jesus existed historically, although biblical scholars differ about the beliefs and teachings of Jesus as well as the accuracy of the parts of his life that have been recorded in the Gospels.[6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][2] While scholars have sometimes criticized Jesus scholarship for religious bias and lack of methodological soundness,[15] with very few exceptions, such critics do support the historicity of Jesus, and reject the theory that Jesus never existed, known as the Christ myth theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

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Reply #38 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 2:02pm

In all likelihood Joshua ben Joseph existed.

The main point is wether he was the messiah and Son of God.

The virgin birth, death and resurrection are a complete copyright infringement of the story of the Egyptian god Horus.

Even the circumstances of his birth, no room at the inn, born in a manger seems unlikely.

Bethlehem was the birthplace of Joseph and being from a family of good Jewish faith would not put his family up in an inn when other family would open their doors to them.

They went to Bethlehem because of the census (which btw was held in 6 A.D.) which according to gospel of Luke And all went to be registered, each to his own town.

There is also theological reasons the Nazarene being born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2 offers the prophecy that it will be from Bethlehem that a new David will come, "one who is to rule Israel, whose origin is from of old. . . ." Christians believe the Nazarene being born in Bethlehem fulfills this prophecy.

According to the gospels of Matthew and Luke, the Nazarene was born during the reign of Herod the Great. But as stated the census has been dated 6 A.D. ten years after Herod the Great died in 4 B.C.

So while there is no doubt the man existed, his divinity is open to interpretation.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: 54 year old groom then shags 9 year old. No jail Reply #39 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 3:19pm Of course there is doubt he existed. There is no record of his existence except by a tiny number of Roman and Jewish "historians" who offer no evidence except the report of rumour.
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Animal Mutha Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83 Gender:	Re: 54 year old groom then shags 9 year old. No jail Reply #40 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 7:49pm Gandalf, I finally agree with you on something. Saying Jesus didn't exist is like saying Muhammad didn't exist. Ignorant, eh?
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Reply #42 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 2:03pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Animal Mutha wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

Gandalf, I finally agree with you on something. Saying Jesus didn't exist is like saying Muhammad didn't exist. Ignorant, eh?

No, there is considerable documentation proving the existence of Muhammad, none beyond hearsay which shows Jesus existed. Grin

and the koran talks about Jesus.
So is the koran faulty ?

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Reply #43 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 3:31pm

Soren wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 5:38pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 6^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Jesus Christ slept with Mary Magdelene, a prostitute.

Where the hell did you get this from?

Same place most of the claims about Muhammad come from! Grin

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He also consorted with a group of young, virile men, bathing with them in the Sea of Galillee. I wonder what they got up to? Grin

Bathing with them? Young virile men? You make it up as you go.

Surely you, an avowed, devoted Christian have heard of Jesus and his apostles? How they went fish and swimming in the Sea of Galilee? Grin

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Reply #44 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 3:32pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Animal Mutha wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

Gandalf, I finally agree with you on something. Saying Jesus didn't exist is like saying Muhammad didn't exist. Ignorant, eh?

No, there is considerable documentation proving the existence of Muhammad, none beyond hearsay which shows Jesus existed. Grin

and the koran talks about Jesus.
So is the koran faulty ?

Of course it is. So is the Bible. Grin

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