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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #15 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:57am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

[ISIS] use of Islam as an excuse for it's savagery is condemned almost universally.

Please watch this YT...

Jordanian-Palestinian Politician: There Is No ISIS Ideology - It's Islam

goto 2m 05s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1koyPZ8nlrYi

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

......the usual Islamophobes attempt to use to condemn all Muslims. Thread after thread, it is repeated.

What was Joseph Goebbels used to say?

"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. It will become the truth."

Brian,

Clearly, you, yourself, have been studying, and taking notes on Joseph Goebbels technique.

....'ISLAM is peace!'

....'The murderers within ISLAM's ranks are only a tiny minority of extremists!'

Honest!!!! Cheesy

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London

Rejecting ISLAM, is an insult to Allah's perfect religion.

Moslems on London streets, openly demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion',
.....the 'religious' right of the moslem, ...to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

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"Behead those who insult ISLAM"

Islamic Protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.

"Nothing to see here. Move on. Move on....."

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Luke 16:31

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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #16 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 4:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

but IS's interpretation of Islam's message is considered flawed by most Muslims

How do you know that, have you spoken to "most muslims". Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

It's use of Islam as an excuse for it's savagery is condemned almost universally condemned.

Only by the West, not most muslims, and certainly not by this preacher of hate. Roll Eyes

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4103227.htm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

Thread after thread, it is repeated

This is for you, and people like you. Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it

Brian, no matter how many lies you tell I, nor most sane people will ever believe you. Carry on repeating them tho if you wish. Its free speech after all.

Is this free speech? Roll Eyes

P/S Did you catch the lies, hate speech? Roll Eyes

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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #17 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 4:58pm

Adamant wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 4:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

It's use of Islam as an excuse for it's savagery is condemned almost universally condemned.

Only by the West, not most muslims, and certainly not by this preacher of hate. Roll Eyes

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4103227.htm

WATCH: Wassim Doureihi Fiery interview on ABC's Lateline over ISIS
2014-Oct-08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxYhoOzo-Zs

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #18 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 7:06pm

Soren wrote Reply #14 - Today at 9:35am

Be good enough and point out what exactly are the misinterpretation of Islam by ISIS.

Remember, ISIS is a bunch of Muslims at war. What they are doing is exactly what Muslims at war have been doing ever since Mohammed showed them the way. There is no departure from Muslim doctrine, only fanatical adherence to it.

Other Muslims not at war may be very embarrassed by ISIS but they have not explained any misunderstandings.

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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #19 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:05pm

moses wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 7:06pm:

Soren wrote Reply #14 - Today at 9:35am

Be good enough and point out what exactly are the misinterpretation of Islam by ISIS.

Remember, ISIS is a bunch of Muslims at war. What they are doing is exactly what Muslims at war have been doing ever since Mohammed showed them the way. There is no departure from Muslim doctrine, only fanatical adherence to it.

Other Muslims not at war may be very embarrassed by ISIS but they have not explained any misunderstandings.

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If its islam driven then why didnt the fight during the saddam or assad era?

ISIS was said to have started by saddam loyalists and army personnell, who are not islamically driven.

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam Reply #20 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 9:46am It's no good trying to make excuses, muslims who commit human rights atrocities against their fellow man, all are following to the very letter islam / allah / muhammad / qur'an / hadi'th They are the highest grade of muslim, according to the above accumulation of pure evil.
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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #21 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 10:04am

Adamant wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

A muslim said it, has to be true, watch him go off at the end!

"The ISIS doctrine stems from the quran and the sunna"

"The quran and the sunna constitute their ideology, doctrine and conduct.

"There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam"!

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4471.htm

It's an absolutist version of .... Islam.

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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #22 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 11:03am

wally1 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:05pm:

moses wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 7:06pm:

Soren wrote Reply #14 - Today at 9:35am

Be good enough and point out what exactly are the misinterpretation of Islam by ISIS.

Remember, ISIS is a bunch of Muslims at war. What they are doing is exactly what Muslims at war have been doing ever since Mohammed showed them the way. There is no departure from Muslim doctrine, only fanatical adherence to it.

Other Muslims not at war may be very embarrassed by ISIS but they have not explained any misunderstandings.

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If its islam driven then why didnt the fight during the saddam or assad era?

ISIS was said to have started by saddam loyalists and army personnell, who are not islamically driven.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4103227.htm

Are you Hizbi, Wally? We should be told.

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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #23 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 11:17am

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

Adamant wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

A muslim said it, has to be true, watch him go off at the end!

"The ISIS doctrine stems from the quran and the sunna"

"The quran and the sunna constitute their ideology, doctrine and conduct.

"There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam"!

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4471.htm

It's an absolutist version of .... Islam.

Sensei, your use of the word "version" and "absolutist" suggests you recognise there are alternative non-absolutist versions of Islam!

What does that do to your stated opposition to everything Islamic and all Muslims? Grin

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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #24 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 11:19am

Soren wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 11:03am:

wally1 wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:05pm:

moses wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 7:06pm:

Soren wrote Reply #14 - Today at 9:35am

Be good enough and point out what exactly are the misinterpretation of Islam by ISIS.

Remember, ISIS is a bunch of Muslims at war. What they are doing is exactly what Muslims at war have been doing ever since Mohammed showed them the way. There is no departure from Muslim doctrine, only fanatical adherence to it.

Other Muslims not at war may be very embarrassed by ISIS but they have not explained any misunderstandings.

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If its islam driven then why didnt the fight during the saddam or assad era?

ISIS was said to have started by saddam loyalists and army personnell, who are not islamically driven.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4103227.htm

Are you Hizbi, Wally? We should be told.

Are you a member of ADL Soren? We should be told! Grin

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"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam Reply #26 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 12:36pm Avoiding the question? Typical!!!!
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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #27 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 7:50pm

Adamant wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 4:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

but IS's interpretation of Islam's message is considered flawed by most Muslims

How do you know that, have you spoken to "most muslims". Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

It's use of Islam as an excuse for it's savagery is condemned almost universally condemned.

Only by the West, not most muslims, and certainly not by this preacher of hate. Roll Eyes

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2014/s4103227.htm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

Thread after thread, it is repeated

This is for you, and people like you. Roll Eyes

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it

Brian, no matter how many lies you tell I, nor most sane people will ever believe you. Carry on repeating them tho if you wish. Its free speech after all.

Is this free speech? Roll Eyes

P/S Did you catch the lies, hate speech? Roll Eyes

Lost your fingers Brian, unable to tell further lies.

Well don brian.

Good to see YOUR GOD has stopped you.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42198	Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam Reply #28 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:34pm I don't believe in God, Adamant. It was beaten out of me a long, long time ago. I have already addressed your belief in what MEMRI publishes.
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Re: There Is No ISIS Ideology – It's Islam
Reply #29 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 9:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:34pm:

I don't believe in God, Adamant. It was beaten out of me a long, long time ago.

I have already addressed your belief in what MEMRI publishes. Roll Eyes

Oh no Brian Ross you are mistaken again, for you did not!!!!!!!

Adamant wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 1:57pm:

Good to see you condone hate speech from your muslim cleric mates. Roll Eyes

Good to see you bring out more of the anti Israeli mates out of the closet too. Roll Eyes

Brian Whitaker Roll Eyes

http://cifwatch.com/2011/06/02/the-guardians-brian-whitaker-wants-you-to-be-afraid-of-the-israel-lobby-very-afraid/ Roll Eyes

http://normanfinkelstein.com/ Oh Gawd.

Fear inc aka Faiz Shakir Roll Eyes

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/nancy-pelosi-hires-former-terrorist-fundraiser/ Roll Eyes

And from your own article.

MEMRI argues that they are quoting the government-controlled press and not obscure or extremist publications, a fact their critics acknowledge, according to Marc Perelman: "When we quote Al-Ahram in Egypt, it is as if we were quoting The New York Times. We know there are people questioning our work, probably those who have difficulties seeing the truth. But no one can show anything wrong about our translations."[44] Shocked

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