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Aust islamics show terrorist sympathy
Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:35pm

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AN Islamic group has condemned the government’s planned terror laws as “a provocation to act”, in a strongly worded statement that appears to legitimise participation in attacks on Israel.

In a submission to the joint standing committee on intelligence and security inquiry into the bills, the Islamic Council of Victoria has warned of a “volatile climate” in the Middle East that “continues to produce groups which have to take up armed struggle”.

The submission cites the battle against the Assad regime in Syria and “the struggle against the occupation of Palestinian territory and Palestinian right to self-determination in the face of Israeli aggression” as examples, adding that “many in the Muslim community support such movements and deem them to be legitimate forms of armed struggle”.

The submission attacks the government for “a double-standard in ... actions to cancel passports for Muslims wanting to go overseas to Syria or Iraq to perhaps assist with aid while ignoring the travel of Zionist Jews wishing to travel to Israel — a state which illegally occupies Palestinian territory with intention of fighting in a war against Gazans and has been accused of war crimes.”

The comments drew a fierce response from committee member and Liberal MP Andrew Nikolic.

“I totally reject the Islamic Council’s legitimisation of ‘armed struggle’ against Israel,” Mr Nikolic said.

“This sort of language makes it less likely that Israelis and Palestinians will one day exist side-by-side in peace and security.”

Mr Nikolic, a career soldier for more than 30 years, drew on his experience living in Israel and working in Syria and South Lebanon as a UN military team leader during the first Gulf War.

“I have seen firsthand the threats confronting Israel’s very existence and strongly support Israel’s right to defend itself from the attacks of Hamas and other militants,” he said.

“But the only way of supporting a peaceful, durable resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is through dialogue and negotiation — not armed struggle.”

Mr Nikolic described the comparison of travel to Israel with terrorist travel to Syria and Iraq as “highly inappropriate”.

“Israel is a functioning democracy guided by the rule of law, while large parts of Syria and Iraq are ungoverned spaces controlled by brutal terrorists,” he said.

The submission also drew rebukes from Jewish bodies.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/muslim-group-accuses-government-...

this is NOT assimilating
this is showing strong sympathy for terrorists who have the same religion

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Reply #1 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:39pm

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TONY Abbott has labelled radical Islamic group Hizb ut-Tahrir “unIslamic” and “unAustralian” after a prominent member refused to condemn beheadings by Islamic State.

In a heated interview on the ABC on Wednesday, Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman Wassim Doureihi sidestepped questions about IS tactics and refused to condemn murders and beheadings.

The prime minister said the group was careful to avoid advocating terrorism but often made excuses for terrorist organisations.

“Hizb ut-Tahrir is an organisation with an ideology which justifies terrorism and that’s why I say it’s unAustralian,” he told Fairfax Radio on Thursday.

“It’s also unIslamic, because no respectable Muslim should have these views.” The government can’t ban Hizb ut-Tahrir unless the group engages in terrorism, however new laws to be introduced into parliament by the end of the year would make it illegal to promote terrorism. The comments come after Mr Abbott revealed plans to red-card “hate preachers” brought in from overseas to speak at events hosted by groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir.

“I say to the preachers of hate, if you think you’re coming to Australia to spread your pernicious message, your divisive ideology think again,” he said.

“It’s one thing for Australians born and bred to be saying things that are objectionable but it’s another thing for preachers of hate to be coming in from overseas.” Mr Doureihi accused Australian and other western governments of being complicit in the killings of millions of Muslims as a result of foreign policies.

He said western politicians were using IS as the “latest bogeyman”.

Mr Abbott said he hoped Mr Doureihi, who is Australian, would “wake up to himself”.

Hizb ut-Tahrir will hold a lecture titled The War to End a Blessed Revolution against United States-led combat in Syria in Sydney’s Lakemba on Friday night.

Mr Abbott was asked by one female talkback caller why he had not condemned attacks on Muslim women amid the debate about the burqa. The prime minister said he had long believed Australians should be entitled to wear what they like.

“Not everyone likes different forms of attire, I’ve been on the record there as well,” he said.

“But in a free society what people wear is entirely up to them — always has been, as far as I’m concerned, always should be.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/tony-abbott-condemns-hizb-uttahr...

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Re: Aust islamics show terrorist sympathy
Reply #2 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:40pm

No, Sprint it is showing concern for fellow Muslims who are being oppressed by an alien state which has been imposed on them by international fiat. The reality of the establishment of Israel has been a determined effort to ethnically cleanse Palestine of non-Jewish peoples who resist the imposition of Israeli occupation. Roll Eyes

I recognise Israel's right to exist BTW, before you try and suggest otherwise. However it should return to it's 1948 borders and stop trying to colonise the Occupied Territories illegally.

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Reply #3 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:40pm:

No, Sprint it is showing concern for fellow Muslims who are being oppressed by an alien state which has been imposed on them by international fiat. The reality of the establishment of Israel has been a determined effort to ethnically cleanse Palestine of non-Jewish peoples who resist the imposition of Israeli occupation. Roll Eyes

I recognise Israel's right to exist BTW,

before you try and suggest otherwise.

Of course you do! Tongue

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However it should return to it's 1948 borders

and stop trying to colonise the Occupied Territories illegally.

Of course Israel should! Tongue

How to solve the Arab/Israeli conflict, it is so, so easy!!!!!.........

Klavan's One-State Solution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU

3 minutes of brilliance!!!!! Grin

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #4 - Oct 9^th, 2014 at 11:52pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:40pm:

No, Sprint it is showing concern for fellow Muslims who are being oppressed by an alien state which has been imposed on them by international fiat. The reality of the establishment of Israel has been a determined effort to ethnically cleanse Palestine of non-Jewish peoples who resist the imposition of Israeli occupation. Roll Eyes

I recognise Israel's right to exist BTW, before you try and suggest otherwise.

Of course you do! Tongue

You have evidence to the contrary, Y? Roll Eyes

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However it should return to it's 1948 borders and stop trying to colonise the Occupied Territories illegally.

Of course Israel should! Tongue

It is the morally correct course, Y.

Do you believe Israel should be rewarded for it's aggression? Roll Eyes

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How to solve the Arab/Israeli conflict, it is so, so easy!!!!!.........

Klavan's One-State Solution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU

3 minutes of brilliance!!!!! Grin

3 minutes of Zionist racism. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Aust islamics show terrorist sympathy
Reply #5 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 7:59am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 11:52pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 9:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:40pm:

No, Sprint it is showing concern for fellow Muslims who are being oppressed by an alien state which has been imposed on them by international fiat. The reality of the establishment of Israel has been a determined effort to ethnically cleanse Palestine of non-Jewish peoples who resist the imposition of Israeli occupation. Roll Eyes

I recognise Israel's right to exist BTW, before you try and suggest otherwise.

Of course you do! Tongue

You have evidence to the contrary, Y? Roll Eyes

Only your overt opinion towards Israeli 'racists', that has been expressed here, on OzPol.

"3 minutes of Zionist racism."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #6 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:11am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 11:52pm:

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However it should return to it's 1948 borders and stop trying to colonise the Occupied Territories illegally.

Of course Israel should! Tongue

It is the morally correct course, Y.

Really!!!

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Do you believe Israel should be rewarded for it's aggression? Roll Eyes

Israel should be rewarded - for maintaining itself as an island of relative peace, surrounded by an ocean of conflicted and warmongering subhuman barbarians and wanna-be-murderers, who are inspired by an evil death cult.

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Q.
Who chooses to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM], which teaches them [the moslem] that it is 'lawful' for them [the moslem], to murder those who do not believe, as they believe ???

A.
The warmongering subhuman barbarians and wanna-be-murderers surrounding Israel.

But remember Brian; ....'ISLAM is peace!'

Honest!!!! Cheesy

WATCH THIS YOUTUBE....

"Farewell Israel"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-IwwfeLp4M

ONLY READ THIS, AFTER YOU HAVE WATCHED THE YOUTUBE....

Isaiah 17:12
Woe to the multitude of many people,

which make a noise like the noise of the seas

; and to the rushing of nations,

that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters

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13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #7 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:15am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 11:52pm:

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How to solve the Arab/Israeli conflict, it is so, so easy!!!!!.........

Klavan's One-State Solution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU

3 minutes of brilliance!!!!! Grin

3 minutes of Zionist racism.

Aaaaawwwww. Cry

So bitter Brian, ....for someone who professes to be, or presents himself as, an infidel. Wink

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #8 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:32am

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Yadda wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

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Q.
Who chooses to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM], which teaches them [the moslem] that it is 'lawful' for them [the moslem], to murder those who do not believe, as they believe ???

A.
The warmongering subhuman barbarians and wanna-be-murderers surrounding Israel.

Warmongering subhuman barbarians and wanna-be-murderers and crazed beheaders surrounding Israel.

???

ISLAM, in all of its 'glory'.....

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Aust islamics show terrorist sympathy
Reply #9 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:44am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

this is why I hate muslims

arent you being as extreme and fanatical as SISL...

HATE is what keeps this alive..

children are not born with GUNS in their hands..

but they are born with HATE in their hearts..

I very much believe in the old saying..

those who rock the cradle rule the world....

if we keep HATE alive...it will return 10 fold.

n o need to worry about climate change or ebola..

HATE will put us all in the dark ages..

come on sprint your better than that surely???..

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Reply #11 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 9:20am

cods wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:44am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

this is why I hate muslims

arent you being as extreme and fanatical as SISL...

HATE is what keeps this alive..

children are not born with GUNS in their hands..

but they are born with HATE in their hearts..

I very much believe in the old saying..

those who rock the cradle rule the world....

if we keep HATE alive...it will return 10 fold.

n o need to worry about climate change or ebola..

HATE will put us all in the dark ages..

come on sprint your better than that surely???..

THEY SHALL JUSTIFY THE RIGHTEOUS, AND CONDEMN THE WICKED

QUESTION;
If a man see some wicked thing, and set it right, who has he offended but the wicked?

Righteousness, is doing what is right and just.

Righteousness, is doing what the wicked hate.

"....and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked." Proverbs 29:27

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Deuteronomy 10:17
For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:
18 He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment.

Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.

Deuteronomy 27:25
Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Psalms 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

Psalms 11:4
The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.

Psalms 97:10
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil:...

Psalms 106:3
Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.

Psalms 106:30
Then stood up Phinehas, and executed judgment: and so the plague was stayed.
31 And that was counted unto him for righteousness unto all generations for evermore.

Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil:..

Proverbs 9:6
Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.
7 He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.
8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
9 Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Proverbs 15:9
The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.

Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

Proverbs 21:15
It is joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.

Proverbs 24:24
He that saith unto the wicked, Thou art righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:
25 But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

Proverbs 29:27
An unjust man is an abomination to the just: and he that is upright in the way is abomination to the wicked.

Isaiah 59:15
Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

Amos 5:14
Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken.
15 Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.

Hosea 12:6
Therefore turn thou to thy God: keep mercy and judgment,....

Romans 12:9
Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

1 Thessalonians 5:19
Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Hebrews 12:14
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #12 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 9:41am

When muslims say the west are barbarians and they caused the mess in the middleast, everyone screams radical, but when non muslims blam the weat for the west nobody seems to care

Noam Chomsky: Rise of Islamic State stems from U.S. ‘sledgehammer’ against Iraq

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/noam-chomsky-rise-of-islamic-state-stems-from-u-s-sledgehammer-against-iraq/

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Reply #13 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 9:47am

cods wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 8:44am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 9^th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

this is why I hate muslims

arent you being as extreme and fanatical as SISL...

HATE is what keeps this alive..

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QUESTION;
How many times, has an 'Aqsa Mahmood' passed you in the street, in Australia ?

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood - running ISIS brothels, allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women.

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood,

"said she wanted to behead Christians with a “blunt knife”."

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

Aqsa Mahmood - she has such a pretty and 'innocent' face, wouldn't you say, cods ?

cods,

Aqsa Mahmood, is FACILITATING the rape and brutalisation of women and young girls, by -- MOSLEM MEN -- in Syria and/or Iraq.

Aqsa Mahmood, is worthy of my hatred.

But you believe that to hate and to abhor such evil, such and evil person, is 'wrong' ?

Dictionary;
abhor = = detest; hate.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #14 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 9:49am

wally1 wrote on Oct 10^th, 2014 at 9:41am:

Noam Chomsky: Rise of Islamic State stems from U.S. ‘sledgehammer’ against Iraq

Of course it does! Cheesy

And Noam Chomsky is an obvious genius. Cheesy

The rise of of ISIS has nothing at all to do with ISLAM, nor with moslems taking advantage of the opportunities that have presented themselves, to moslems. Cheesy

Rather the rise of ISIS, is solely to do, with the wrongdoing of non-moslems. Tongue

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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