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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Conservatives caught balls deep, again. Oct 10^th, 2014 at 11:14pm http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/10/10/13/57/hillsong-leader-grilled-over-l...
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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 85300 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Conservatives caught balls deep, again. Reply #1 - Oct 10^th, 2014 at 11:17pm Should be renamed Mount'n Song......
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26290 Gender:	Re: Conservatives caught balls deep, again. Reply #2 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 5:41am This has nothing whatsoever to do with politics.
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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Conservatives caught balls deep, again. Reply #3 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 7:14am Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 5:41am: This has nothing whatsoever to do with politics. The Howard government were close to these Hillsong parishioners and several of their senior members attended some of their services. What happened behind the scenes that we don't know about?
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Reply #4 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 7:54am

Bam wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 7:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 5:41am:

This has nothing whatsoever to do with politics.

The Howard government were close to these Hillsong parishioners and several of their senior members attended some of their services. What happened behind the scenes that we don't know about?

so you are suggesting something.. you have some evidence of course...

do you actually ask someone what church if any they belong too before speaking to them??..

Howard govt close to these Hillsong parishioners..its sounds almost sinister...and how you know this is of course amazing.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Conservatives caught balls deep, again. Reply #5 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 8:09am Howard was also close to Exclusive Brethren and who knows what they got up too? As long as they voted for him Howard didn’t ask questions!
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Conservatives caught balls deep, again. Reply #6 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 8:15am Google it..... John Howard link to Hillsong church There seems to be a bit of evidence. He was also involved with the Exclusive Brethren. lol....sorry George, didn't see your post
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Reply #7 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:05am

St George of the Garden wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 8:09am:

Howard was also close to Exclusive Brethren and who knows what they got up too? As long as they voted for him Howard didn’t ask questions!

a bit like being close to UNIONS that employ the likes of bikies and extreme muslims to keep their power....

you mean.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Conservatives caught balls deep, again. Reply #8 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:14am cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:05am: a bit like being close to UNIONS that employ the likes of extreme muslims to keep their power Wait, what?
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59253 Here Gender:	Re: Conservatives caught balls deep, again. Reply #9 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:23am Quote: Conservatives caught balls deep, again. I suppose that it is the risk taken when any politician supports any group of religious nutters or extremists.
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Reply #10 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 11:20am

Dnarever wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:23am:

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Conservatives caught balls deep, again.

I suppose that it is the risk taken when any politician supports any group of religious nutters or extremists.

Like the Greens supporting/defending eco-terrorists and the ALP supporting militant unions and their thugs?

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Reply #11 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 11:22am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 11:20am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:23am:

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Conservatives caught balls deep, again.

I suppose that it is the risk taken when any politician supports any group of religious nutters or extremists.

Like the Greens supporting/defending eco-terrorists and the ALP supporting militant unions and their thugs?

If it had been true then yes.

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Reply #12 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 5:57pm

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 7:54am:

Bam wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 7:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 5:41am:

This has nothing whatsoever to do with politics.

The Howard government were close to these Hillsong parishioners and several of their senior members attended some of their services. What happened behind the scenes that we don't know about?

so you are suggesting something..

Yes - I'm suggesting that Armhair was being too hasty to assert that it had nothing to do with politics.

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you have some evidence of course...

Howard and Costello (among other Liberals) attended Hillsong services and made no secret of their links to this church. That doesn't mean though that these Liberals knew what other members of this church were up to. I don't believe in guilt by association, unlike some of the rightards on the forum.

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do you actually ask someone what church if any they belong too before speaking to them??..

Howard govt close to these Hillsong parishioners..its sounds almost sinister...and how you know this is of course amazing.

It was in the news and the media a while ago, and it had plenty of coverage. Your personal ignorance is not evidence that it didn't happen. You can call it "sinister" if you like, but that's your interpretation, not mine.

It also doesn't mean they curry the favour of Liberals only. Some Labor politicians have also been associated with this church, such as Bob Carr.

Shining the light on Hillsong (Crikey, 2/5/06)
Costello soaks up Hillsong's praise (The Age, 5/7/05)

Three Liberals: Louise Markus (Member for Greenway, NSW), Alexander Downer, Peter Costello.

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