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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38856 Gender:	Re: Is our PM legally able to hold office ? Reply #15 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return. It is being covered up.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Is our PM legally able to hold office ? Reply #16 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:23pm The problem as I see it, is that even if true (and I'm inclined to believe it just may be), it will, no matter how logically presented, be viewed in the same light as the US Tea-Party nutters' claim that Obama's a Kenyan or a Muslim, and will be given about as much credulity.
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Reply #17 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:25pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

It certainly is.

I'm sure they're running around now, relinquishing his British citizenship and trying to have the dates altered.

Just more lies and corruption from Abbott.

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Reply #18 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:27pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

I don't know the basic facts, maybe you could establish some.

You can start with as you say the basic facts, ie evidence that he has a dual citizenship and evidence that dual citizenship precludes someone from being PM.

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Reply #19 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:29pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 8:56pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 8:50pm:

Stratos wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 8:47pm:

DaS Energy wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 8:36pm:

You cannot hold a position as an MP if you have dual citizenship .

If that is a rule, and I'm not exactly convinced of it from the article, it's a dumb rule. What possible reason is there for dual citizens to not hold office?

Australians like their PM to be Australian, not a duel citizen jihadist!

Since when does being a dual citizen make you a jihadist? You're certifiable!!!

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Reply #20 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

It certainly is.

I'm sure they're running around now, relinquishing his British citizenship and trying to have the dates altered.

Just more lies and corruption from Abbott.

In another thread you would only speak to what was on the record and in this thread you are letting your imagination run free.

No comment, just noting the inconsistencies.

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Reply #21 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:29pm

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:27pm:

... evidence that dual citizenship precludes someone from being PM.

How many times would you like me to post it?

This is the fourth.

"Any person who ... is under any acknowledgment of allegiance, obedience, or adherence to a foreign power, or is a subject or a citizen or entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or a citizen of a foreign power ... shall be incapable of being chosen or of sitting as a senator or a member of the House of Representatives."

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/coaca430/s44.html

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Reply #22 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:30pm

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

I don't know the basic facts, maybe you could establish some.

You can start with as you say the basic facts, ie evidence that he has a dual citizenship and evidence that dual citizenship precludes someone from being PM.

I do not know if he still has dual citizenship. I know he did before and while he was at Oxford. You either take my word for it or go fetch, as I took the time to do.

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Reply #23 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:32pm

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

I don't know the basic facts, maybe you could establish some.

You can start with as you say the basic facts, ie evidence that he has a dual citizenship and evidence that dual citizenship precludes someone from being PM.

If there was no problem the information sought would have been obtained easily, you have to think that when information is refused there is most likely a reason.

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Reply #24 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:32pm:

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

I don't know the basic facts, maybe you could establish some.

You can start with as you say the basic facts, ie evidence that he has a dual citizenship and evidence that dual citizenship precludes someone from being PM.

If there was no problem the information sought would have been obtained easily, you have to think that when information is refused there is most likely a reason.

Aussie claimed the basic facts are known. I suggest you conspiracists all get into a huddle and sort what story you are going to run with.

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Reply #25 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:38pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

I don't know the basic facts, maybe you could establish some.

You can start with as you say the basic facts, ie evidence that he has a dual citizenship and evidence that dual citizenship precludes someone from being PM.

I do not know if he still has dual citizenship. I know he did before and while he was at Oxford. You either take my word for it or go fetch, as I took the time to do.

Just asking you for a ref or a link, nothing more than you demand from others for unsupported and unsubstantiated claims.

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"If they’re out there in the high seas, what you would do is seek to turn them back through the agency of the Australian Navy".

Kevin Rudd on 2GB, July 12, 2007

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139530 Gender:	Re: Is our PM legally able to hold office ? Reply #26 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:38pm Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:29pm: No comment, just noting the inconsistencies. If that's the way you want to deflect, it's fine with me.
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Reply #27 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:41pm

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:32pm:

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

I don't know the basic facts, maybe you could establish some.

You can start with as you say the basic facts, ie evidence that he has a dual citizenship and evidence that dual citizenship precludes someone from being PM.

If there was no problem the information sought would have been obtained easily, you have to think that when information is refused there is most likely a reason.

Aussie claimed the basic facts are known. I suggest you conspiracists all get into a huddle and sort what story you are going to run with.

Easy. Get busy datalife. Produce the evidence which establishes that Abbott has renounced his British Citizenship....one he acquired by place of birth. (I assume you acknowledge he was born in the UK.....or do you?)

Better still......ask Abbott to produce that evidence.....or when he refuses............do an FOI.............and let us all know how you go. I know you will hit a brick wall.

You work it out from those basic facts.

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Reply #28 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:42pm

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:

Datalife wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

The basic facts are known. There was a time when he held dual citizenship........that occurred before he went to Oxford. What is not known is whether Abbott ever relinquished that Brit citizenship since his return.

It is being covered up.

I don't know the basic facts, maybe you could establish some.

You can start with as you say the basic facts, ie evidence that he has a dual citizenship and evidence that dual citizenship precludes someone from being PM.

I do not know if he still has dual citizenship. I know he did before and while he was at Oxford. You either take my word for it or go fetch, as I took the time to do.

Just asking you for a ref or a link, nothing more than you demand from others for unsupported and unsubstantiated claims.

Do your own basic research. You are an adult. I'm not here to hand feed you.

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DaS Energy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3962 Gender:	Re: Is our PM legally able to hold office ? Reply #29 - Oct 11^th, 2014 at 9:42pm Neither Abbott nor the LNP confirm or deny Abbott has duel citizenship. Who's hiding what?
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