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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85176 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head Reply #15 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:16pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 11:50am: Lambie also said she thinks Putin wants peace. Blowing airliners out of the sky and invading democratic countries is a funny way of going about achieving that goal! Evidence please.
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head Reply #16 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:19pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 11:50am: Lambie also said she thinks Putin wants peace. Blowing airliners out of the sky and invading democratic countries is a funny way of going about achieving that goal! Evidence please.
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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #17 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:21pm

Indeed:

"According to the U.S. government, the Vincennes mistakenly identified the
Iranian airliner as an attacking military fighter. ... similar to that of an F-14A
Tomcat during an attack run; "

"

All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew

, died.[1] This event ranks seventh among the deadliest disasters in aviation history, 10th if including the 9/11 attacks, which include ground casualties; the incident retains the highest death toll of any aviation incident in the Persian Gulf. The Vincennes had entered Iranian territorial waters after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

And the "nice people' have never apologised for it.

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21685 ACT Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head Reply #18 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:25pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 12:45pm: Jacqueline is a very complex woman. I think she needs about 100 sessions on the couch with a good Freudian psychoanalyst You wont get her on a couch unless you have a big donger! Sort of rules most of us out!
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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #19 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:08pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 12:45pm:

Jacqueline is a very complex woman. I think she needs about 100 sessions on the couch with a good Freudian psychoanalyst

You wont get her on a couch unless you have a big donger!

Sort of rules most of us out!

Grin

I wonder if she's ever had a look in the mirror. Fair dinkum......you'd have to be off yer face to even consider it.

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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #20 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:15pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 12:45pm:

Jacqueline is a very complex woman. I think she needs about 100 sessions on the couch with a good Freudian psychoanalyst

You wont get her on a couch unless you have a big donger!

Sort of rules most of us out!

Grin

I wonder if she's ever had a look in the mirror. Fair dinkum......you'd have to be off yer face to even consider it.

Thats why they invented beer Aussie!
Cheesy

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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #21 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:26pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 12:45pm:

Jacqueline is a very complex woman. I think she needs about 100 sessions on the couch with a good Freudian psychoanalyst

You wont get her on a couch unless you have a big donger!

Sort of rules most of us out!

Grin

I wonder if she's ever had a look in the mirror. Fair dinkum......you'd have to be off yer face to even consider it.

Thats why they invented beer Aussie!
Cheesy

Not enough beer in the world.

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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #22 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:27pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:08pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 12:45pm:

Jacqueline is a very complex woman. I think she needs about 100 sessions on the couch with a good Freudian psychoanalyst

You wont get her on a couch unless you have a big donger!

Sort of rules most of us out!

Grin

I wonder if she's ever had a look in the mirror. Fair dinkum......you'd have to be off yer face to even consider it.

Thats why they invented beer Aussie!
Cheesy

Reminds me of a smart arse comment I read somewhere along the lines of someone saying to another ~ "If, when we meet, you look nothing like that image you put on FB, it is your shout until you do."

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Aussie. New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7 Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head Reply #23 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 4:59pm link?
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head Reply #24 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 5:09pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 10:23am: The Australian cringe still alive and well! Putin is a wannabe latter-day Czar... not a democrat. Putin is what he has always been ~ a KGB agent with friends in the Russian Mafia.
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21685 ACT Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head Reply #25 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 5:16pm The Man Without A Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin by Masha Gessen – review http://www.theguardian.com/books/2012/feb/26/vladimir-putin-masha-gessen-review
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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #26 - Oct 15^th, 2014 at 12:10am

Vic wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Indeed:

"According to the U.S. government, the Vincennes mistakenly identified the
Iranian airliner as an attacking military fighter. ... similar to that of an F-14A
Tomcat during an attack run; "

"

All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew

, died.[1] This event ranks seventh among the deadliest disasters in aviation history, 10th if including the 9/11 attacks, which include ground casualties; the incident retains the highest death toll of any aviation incident in the Persian Gulf. The Vincennes had entered Iranian territorial waters after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

And the "nice people' have never apologised for it.

The US warship was actually operating in international waters.

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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #27 - Oct 15^th, 2014 at 12:18am

Vic wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Indeed:

"According to the U.S. government, the Vincennes mistakenly identified the
Iranian airliner as an attacking military fighter. ... similar to that of an F-14A
Tomcat during an attack run; "

"

All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew

, died.[1] This event ranks seventh among the deadliest disasters in aviation history, 10th if including the 9/11 attacks, which include ground casualties; the incident retains the highest death toll of any aviation incident in the Persian Gulf. The Vincennes had entered Iranian territorial waters after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

And the "nice people' have never apologised for it.

The Vincennes thing was on ACI again tonight... amazing the simple errors that can creep in, and the fact (well known to some) that sometimes 'mission orientation' can mean an individual will overlook reality in the pursuit of the scenario - especially under pressure of combat, and will allow the training and the scenario to develop along unrealistic lines.

That has been, and will remain, one cause of 'blue-on-blue' incidents.

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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #28 - Oct 15^th, 2014 at 12:25am

Answers to all criticisms of Jackie Lambie:-

a) there are always paper bags.

b) Viagra might help in a pinch

c) She WAS, after all, an MP... a body snatcher....

d) you never know unless you give it a go.....

e) Given enough time, Pickering, I can turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.... what do you say to a wager? Say - ten pounds I can make Miss.. Doolittle here into a facsimile of a lady in... oh.. three weeks? Well.. good enough to pass, anyway, in polite company.... now a good bath and some clean clothes....

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Re: Jacqui Lambie hits the nail on the head
Reply #29 - Oct 15^th, 2014 at 6:43am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 15^th, 2014 at 12:10am:

Vic wrote on Oct 14^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Indeed:

"According to the U.S. government, the Vincennes mistakenly identified the
Iranian airliner as an attacking military fighter. ... similar to that of an F-14A
Tomcat during an attack run; "

"

All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew

, died.[1] This event ranks seventh among the deadliest disasters in aviation history, 10th if including the 9/11 attacks, which include ground casualties; the incident retains the highest death toll of any aviation incident in the Persian Gulf. The Vincennes had entered Iranian territorial waters after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

And the "nice people' have never apologised for it.

The US warship was actually operating in international waters.

Overall and for most of the time, but operational awareness had degraded to the point where it had wandered in and out of Iranian national waters, as shown on its navigational plot computer. According to the ACI story, it was inside Iranian waters at the time of the shootdown.

Regardless of its position vis a vis international boundaries, the point is clear - mistakes occur when civilian aircraft fly over contested areas, and it is hypocritical of the US to make a song and dance about MH-70 after the Vincennes shootdown.

Far better to just stick with the single MH-70 incident. That is murky enough, and I find the unwillingness of participants in this crazy Slavic war reprehensible in not permitting a full and open investigation.

Point is - Putin is what he is - but he is a head of state, and puerile media bites hinting at confrontation without clear evidence are just that - puerile media bites.

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