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I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!
Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:30pm

I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

Moslems insist that they just want to be 'accepted' in the country where they live.

Moslems assert [and insist] that 'the moslem' has a 'human right', to be 'accepted' in a country like [insert, any Western hemisphere nation].

Yadda said....
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Moslems, by choosing ISLAM, are separating themselves from other Australians, just as much as many Australians [now] are choosing to separate themselves from moslems [....because of what 'being a moslem' represents].

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.
And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!"

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.

Yadda said....
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Every moslem, that lives among us, IS A REAL THREAT, TO OUR PEACE [...a real threat to whatever peace we do enjoy].

THE TRUTH ABOUT EVERY MOSLEM.....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1411947310/0#0
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If a Muslim isn’t himself a terrorist he certainly supports terrorism.

And there isn’t a Muslim alive who doesn’t hope to one day see Sharia imposed in western countries.

Many moslems insist that they just want to be 'accepted'.

QUESTION;
What do moslems accept ?

Moslems accept Allah's religion.

Moslems accept Mainstream ISLAM.

STATEMENT;
ISLAMIC law [i.e. Mainstream ISLAM], and the tenets of ISLAMIC culture, sanction [i.e. MAKES LAWFUL!] the killing of any person who,
1/ comes into the power of 'the moslem',
2/ and who [being within the power of 'the moslem'] rejects the authority of ISLAM and its law, over their life.

QUESTION;
But if those things are true, then why don't we see more religious violence being 'expressed' by moslems, in Australia ?

ANSWER;
Because [most] moslems in Australia, realise that their [real!] malevolent intent, in 2014, would easily be crushed.

the threats posed by Islam
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1368872008/51#51
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Chimp you are confusing impotence with benevolence.

underage marriage in Sydney
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391854581/281#281
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You are mistaking impotence for benign intent.

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Moslems within non-moslem host communities are engaged in a war of attrition.

In those places where circumstances do not yet allow moslems to subjugate non-moslems, moslems 'struggle' ['Jihad'] to gain influence within non-moslem cultural and government institutions, where they seek to undermine those institutions, and promote ISLAMIC 'values', and an approximation of Sharia law, and will seek to promote the influence of fellow moslems within those institutions.

Alternatively, in those areas where ISLAM slowly [or quickly!] becomes politically, and numerically superior, and where the moslem community has the means, there is a 'religious' obligation upon all moslems to press ISLAM's [political] claims, using all 'justifiable' violence, to establish the sovereignty of Allah, and his followers, over the native peoples of that area.

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Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:36pm

Many moslems insist that they just want to be 'accepted'.

QUESTION;
What do moslems accept ?

Moslems accept Allah's religion.

Moslems accept Mainstream ISLAM.

e.g.!!!!!!

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; That those who are not moslems [and reject ISLAM] be declared 'the enemies of Allah's religion' [and therefore those persons become the - mortal - enemies of all moslems!].

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' 'lawfully' killing those who are not moslems - wherever OR, whenever, such death(s) are deemed beneficial to Allah's religion [and/or beneficial to 'the moslem'].

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' 'lawfully' killing - by crucifixtion - those who oppose and resist the spread of Allah's religion. [see Koran 5.33 below]

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' [i.e. 'lawfully'] killing those who are not moslems - BECAUSE THEY INSULT ISLAM, SIMPLY BY REJECTING THE AUTHORITY OF ALLAH'S RELIGION AND ITS LAW, over their life.
e.g.
IMAGE....
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/27/1227038/812722-d0870956-2cc7-11e...

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; That "....those who reject Allah have no protector." [i.e. those who reject Allah's religion - are the 'guilty' people - and have no protection from Allah's religion and laws.]

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To those who are not moslems being subjugated/captured, and subsequently being ENSLAVED by 'the moslem'.

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To moslem men keeping and 'using' captured non-moslem women [and young girls], as SEX SLAVES.
e.g.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To Sharia [ISLAMIC law] being violently imposed upon those who are not moslems. [e.g. if moslems in Australia, had the 'opportunity', 'the moslem' would impose Sharia law upon Australia, and Australians.]

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' man marrying a 9 your old girl.

Mainstream ISLAM gives legal sanction; To 'the moslem' 'lawfully' killing any member of his family [e.g. his wife, or a child, or children, OR, his grandchildren!!]. i.e. Any person who is deemed [by 'the moslem'!] to be apostate [a rebel against Allah's religion].

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But of course, moslems here in Australia are busy telling everyone who will listen, that 'the moslem' has a 'human right', to be 'accepted' in a country like [insert, any Western hemisphere nation].

MYSELF;
I choose, NOT to 'accept' moslems, BECAUSE 'THE MOSLEM' WILL DECEITFULLY CLAIM THAT HE/SHE DOES NOT ENDORSE ANY OF THE ABOVE - WHICH IS SHARIA LAW !

But the above, is what Mainstream ISLAM is !

And Mainstream ISLAM, is what - 'the moslem' - has joined himself to !

i.e.
That, what Mainstream ISLAM makes lawful, to 'the moslem'.

'The moslem', accepts Allah's religion.

'The moslem', accepts Mainstream ISLAM.

I do not!

FURTHER ARGUMENTS - IN SUPPORT OF THE ABOVE CLAIMS;

STATEMENT;
ISLAMIC law [i.e. Mainstream ISLAM], and the tenets of ISLAMIC culture, sanction [i.e. MAKES LAWFUL!] the killing of any person who,
1/ comes into the power of 'the moslem',
2/ and who [being within the power of 'the moslem'] rejects the authority of ISLAM and its law, over their life.

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Mainstream ISLAM....

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ISIS.... Saudi Arabia sentences Shiite cleric to be crucified
Oct 15, 2014

Everyone knows that when the Islamic State crucifies people, it is practicing a bizarre extremism that has nothing to do with Islam.

Google

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world..."
Koran 5.33

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Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm

Suppose for a second that what you are saying is completely true...

Do you really think western civilisation would allow an implementation of Sharia Law? That'd we'd all just get on our knees and accept it? I don't think so. We love our democratic freedoms... though, it's because of this democratic freedom that people from other cultures are able to come here in the first place.

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Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:49pm

QUESTION;
But aren't some moslems, good people ???

QUESTION;
Is a person who subscribes to [consents to] the >> MURDER << of his/her neighbour, a 'good' person ?

Dictionary;
murder = = the unlawful premeditated killing of one person by another.

Because that, is the proposition which is being made in the statement that;

"Some/many moslems are good people."

My contention [and argument], is that;

There are no 'nice' moslems.

Because there is no 'nice' ISLAM.

Yadda said....
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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

TRUTH.

All cognisant moslems themselves, know this to be true, and deny and hide this criminal intent from their non-moslem host communities.

CRIMINAL INTENT IN THE MOSLEM HEART

Dictionary,
malice aforethought = = Law the intention to kill or harm, held to distinguish unlawful killing from murder.

IMAGE....

Another moslem who just wanted to be 'accepted'.

Aqsa Mahmood - the pretty moslem medical student, from the UK.

That young moslem woman abandoned her medical studies in the UK, to travel to Syria/Iraq, so that she could supervise the rape [by moslems men] of other young women who are not moslem young women.

"'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood, said she wanted to behead Christians with a “blunt knife”."

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

But aren't some moslems, good people ???

Q.
Again, what does Sharia law permit ?????

A.
The enslavement, rape, and murder, of those who do not believe, as moslems believe!

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Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Suppose for a second that what you are saying is completely true...

Do you really think western civilisation would allow an implementation of Sharia Law? That'd we'd all just get on our knees and accept it? I don't think so. We love our democratic freedoms... though, it's because of this democratic freedom that people from other cultures are able to come here in the first place.

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

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Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:10pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Suppose for a second that what you are saying is completely true...

Do you really think western civilisation would allow an implementation of Sharia Law?

Freedumb,

Many European nations are - effectively - 'tolerating' Sharia law, today, in their lands!

e.g.
Google;

uk muslim daughter Banaz, found buried backyard suitcase

Google;

uk muslim honour killings

Google;

no-go areas, for non-muslims in Europe

Google;

rape jihad, in Europe

Belgium - Militant Muslims in market
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-inob20I_Y0

Pat Condell - Sweden - Ship of fools
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZsvdg1dkJ4

Violence, threats, intimidation - Europe under siege by Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DSEbBzZ8rg

Muslims conquer Europe, French people have had enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eABe3HNTK0

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That'd we'd all just get on our knees and accept it? I don't think so.

We love our democratic freedoms... though,

it's because of this democratic freedom that people from other cultures are able to come here in the first place.

No. !!!!!!!

It is because we [ourselves] don't think that it is important, AT ALL, to discriminate between what is good and what is evil.

And, to separate ourselves, from what is evil.

THAT, is why so many violent criminals and child molesters are 'living in the community'.

That is why, it is not safe to walk on city and suburban streets at night, Freedumb

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Reply #8 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:37pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

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I choose to, NOT, 'accept' moslems!

I doubt that they care.

That is true.

.......only because, many people [who are not moslems] do not recognise how evil and wicked Mainstream ISLAM is.

And therefore, many people do not associate the evil and wickedness of ISLAM, with moslems.

But that 'logic', does not change what is true.

A moslem [EVERY moslem], is a person who endorses what Mainstream ISLAM promotes and allows.

Yadda said....
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Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.
And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!"

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.

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Reply #9 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 1:40pm

Not many people care.

That is sad!

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Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

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There is a popular absurdity, that inhabits our consciousnesses, and that is 'about in the world' today.

It is the proposition that 1+ billion moslems, are 'moderate' moslems - and that those 1+ billion 'moderate' moslems have no idea, and do not understand, what their 'faith' requires of them.....

"Hey!!!! I'm a moslem!!

But i have absolutely no idea what the laws and tenets of my faith declare, and what those laws and tenets require of me - being a moslem!

HONEST!!"

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Reply #10 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Suppose for a second that what you are saying is completely true...

Do you really think western civilisation would allow an implementation of Sharia Law? That'd we'd all just get on our knees and accept it? I don't think so. We love our democratic freedoms... though, it's because of this democratic freedom that people from other cultures are able to come here in the first place.

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

Ignorance breeds more ignorance.

I don't believe Yadda is insane, or stupid. If you treat people as such they are less likely to change or expand on their views. I can understand where he and the others are coming from, despite having a differing opinion.

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Reply #11 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Suppose for a second that what you are saying is completely true...

Do you really think western civilisation would allow an implementation of Sharia Law? That'd we'd all just get on our knees and accept it? I don't think so. We love our democratic freedoms... though, it's because of this democratic freedom that people from other cultures are able to come here in the first place.

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

Ignorance breeds more ignorance.

I don't believe Yadda is insane, or stupid. If you treat people as such they are less likely to change or expand on their views. I can understand where he and the others are coming from, despite having a differing opinion.

You're young: you don't know any better.

I'll bet you a year's salary that you're wrong.

He has some very serious issues that need addressing by a professional.

I just hope that he seeks help soon, or someone close to him gets him the help he needs.

He sounds like the sort of person who could actually be dangerous.

I'll certainly be keeping a close eye on him.

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Reply #12 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:40pm

Yadda:

You honestly don't believe that political correctness and freedom in democracy has allowed the Islamic to spread out, so to speak?

As for not being able to walk the streets in suburbia and cities, I haven't heard of any attacks other than the 18 year old in Melbourne who attempted to behead a police officer, and believe me, if there were others to reinforce this fear, I'm sure you and a few others would have enlightened us on the matter.

There is a problem here; it isn't what you think, though.

For all of the security and surveillance and the authorities' pledge to protect its people, it hasn't been efficient enough in doing so. For starters, they should have screened people a lot better.

When you hear of terrorist supporters allowed to travel on their brother's VISA, despite the police and the feds knowing, you cannot help but shake your head in wonder. You hear about a terrorist supporter being caught with guns and ammo, he gets off with a fine. You shake your head in wonder.

Now everyone pays for the incompetency; Muslims who are not terrorists are accused of being one, while others are paranoid that Muslims are terrorists. Both sides suffer.

Also, read this: http://www.cfr.org/religion/islam-governing-under-sharia/p8034

According to this not ALL Islamic countries practice the extremities. Though I don't particularly trust the CFR...

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Reply #13 - Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Freedumb wrote on Oct 19^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

Suppose for a second that what you are saying is completely true...

Do you really think western civilisation would allow an implementation of Sharia Law? That'd we'd all just get on our knees and accept it? I don't think so. We love our democratic freedoms... though, it's because of this democratic freedom that people from other cultures are able to come here in the first place.

You're addressing Yadda like one would address a sane person.

I'm not sure why.

Ignorance breeds more ignorance.

I don't believe Yadda is insane, or stupid. If you treat people as such they are less likely to change or expand on their views. I can understand where he and the others are coming from, despite having a differing opinion.

You're young: you don't know any better.

I'll bet you a year's salary that you're wrong.

He has some very serious issues that need addressing by a professional.

I just hope that he seeks help soon, or someone close to him gets him the help he needs.

He sounds like the sort of person who could actually be dangerous.

I'll certainly be keeping a close eye on him.

That's exactly what I'm talking about, Greg.

I'd say that a few members on this forum need "help".

How is somebody on a forum going to be dangerous to you?

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