Freedumb wrote on Oct 21
st, 2014 at 5:23pm:
Yadda I am well aware that Muslims believe in Allah and all of that jazz...
But as I have stated in another post
"Just because people are pledged to a particular religion it doesn't mean they comply with it."Also, people have their own interpretations of what is written in these "sacred tomes".
When people didn't like what was written in it, but still wanted a place in God's holy world, they changed it.
I've also read somewhere that the Koran has different translations or editions... if I'm wrong, let me know.
Why do you think there are so many different Christian denominations? King Henry the VIII created his own branch simply so he could divorce his wife and marry somebody else.
There are probably a crap tonne of different spiritual beliefs/school of thoughts out there that don't exist today because the catholic church laid waste to it -- they didn't conform to their interpretations, so they were "heretics" and had to die. Ever heard of the cathars? Not many people have because the beloved catholic church destroyed a lot of history.
This situation is very much the same today -- extremists are trying to abolish Muslims who don't conform, and they want to abolish westerners and everybody else as well. They clearly haven't evolved from the barbaric behaviour of the older days, where as other religions have.
Again, it's about the people and their obsessive, extremist beliefs -- NOT the Muslims as a whole.
But of course, typing this out is like trying to get blood out of stone.
You are wrong,
and badly mistaken, imo.
Freedumb,
You advocate, for the tolerance of
the moslem community in Australia.
Freedumb,
I can't say it any plainer that this ------>
ISLAM promotes LAWLESSNESS in men.
ISLAM promotes LAWLESSNESS in men.
ISLAM promotes LAWLESSNESS in men.
And 'the moslem' is a human being who has joined himself/herself, to what ISLAM is.
Freedumb,
CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF ISLAM, .....OF ISLAM
BEING EVIL, AND PROMOTING EVIL, AND LAWLESSNESS IN MAN ????
Freedumb,
IMO, this/these are among the people who you are advocating for.....
A Hizb ut-Tahrir spokesman
in Australia, speaking to 'Jihad', and
to the ambition of worldwide moslem rule - Dec 24, 2012.
This person - this Australian moslem - is talking about the implementation of the law of
Mainstream ISLAM !
Quote:
"...that is the obligation [upon the pure moslem]....[to] carry the light of ISLAM to the rest of the world."
"...How? Not with flowers....It was the - ARMY - of moslems which started [the worldwide spread of ISLAM's influence]....That is Jihad."
"...That is Jihad....It is not defensive Jihad. [Jihad, is not staying where you live, 'practising' Allah's religion.]"
"...[in a place where Sharia is not the law....] You would be in the heart of somewhere else to carry your religion [there]....Is that extremist? I don't care."
"...Russia knows that moslems will knock on their doors....Russia was at war with ISLAM for years and years....They [Russia] know what ISLAM is."
"...[In the established caliphate, Sharia will be 'the law'] from day one. [Sharia] courts will be given constitutions....We will stop all the stuff....these civil rights....All forbidden things in the caliphate will be stopped from day one....all forbidden things will stop."
"...From day one, we will declare that we withdraw from the UN, and we will withdraw from all international associations.....[there will be no infidel embassies.]....They don't [will not?] have embassies in our countries."
"...Lets take the education system....[from day one] We will not teach any foreign language in our schools....Foreign languages will be taught at universities - because we need it to carry the dawa [the invitation to ISLAM] to others...They [our children] will learn [only] the Arabic language....The Koran language will be the only state language."
Australian Islamist: We Will Establish a Caliphate, Instate Shari'a, Make Arabic Official Language
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFbH5ZkrxoFreedumb,
Of course, this guy [above] -
a moslem living in Australia - bears no 'resemblance' to the 'nice' moslems, who you want us to tolerate.
We have to part 'ways', Freedumb.
I can't walk with you.