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Re: Multiculturalism is a Complete & Total Failure!
Reply #90 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 12:01am

Soren wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 8:37am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 11:58pm:

I see you avoided my question, Soren. How bloody unsurprising.

So, how does a 10% greater regular attendance at Mosque over that of Church make all Muslims suddenly so devout that they will become "raving beheading demanding, fatwa decreeing unhumourous people?"

Who, other than you, has said anything like what you are quoting? Who said, other than you, that the difference between 30 and 40 % matters?

You make up shite an expect me to take you seriously.

Unable to answer the question, Soren?

You erect your strawman view of Muslims and Islam in Australia. It's all you're capable of doing. Roll Eyes

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Reply #91 - Oct 28^th, 2014 at 5:19am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 11:59pm:

Panther wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 4:41am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 11:49pm:

So, I take it you'd send home all the Poms who came to Australia and who never became citizens?

Nope, unless they had no desire to become Australian......Identify themselves as Australian in culture,
& displaying an average, to an above average, level of National pride, not pride in where they came from, but pride in where they are -- where they intend on living if permitted.

Citizenship in & of itself, doesn't make one Australian, nor is it required,
but it would be reasonable to think it would a logical next step in the total transitioning experience.

So, the fact that they have never become Australian citizens, despite living here often for many decades, 1.- forced the Australian government to accord to them voting and social security rights and even have 2.- dedicated Shops and shopping aisles to their cultural needs, you let them off?

You don't think that's a bit hypocritical?

1. -
A flat out hallucination on your part. No force was exerted, nor was any bowed to. It was part of a Commonwealth exchange agreement between GB & Aus, which goes both ways, & does not include any cultural concessions. Australia has many such reciprocal financial agreements with other countries in our Commonwealth & elsewhere (USA for example - American Social Security payments are 'tax free' in Australia - not considered income for tax purposes or for Australian pension means testing purposes, etc..).

2.-
No such law exists that would force independent retailers to dedicate any portion of their operation in order to conform to anyone's cultural needs.

How do you dream these things up? --- You smokin' crack?

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Reply #92 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 12:47am

Panther wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 5:19am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 11:59pm:

So, the fact that they have never become Australian citizens, despite living here often for many decades, 1.- forced the Australian government to accord to them voting and social security rights and even have 2.- dedicated Shops and shopping aisles to their cultural needs, you let them off?

You don't think that's a bit hypocritical?

1. - A flat out hallucination on your part. No force was exerted, nor was any bowed to. It was part of a Commonwealth exchange agreement between GB & Aus, which goes both ways, & ]does not include any cultural concessions. Australia has many such reciprocal financial agreements with other countries in our Commonwealth & elsewhere (USA for example - American Social Security payments are 'tax free' in Australia - not considered income for tax purposes or for Australian pension means testing purposes, etc..).

Love how you skipped over the "voting rights" point. UK Immigrants who arrived before 1983 have full voting rights in Australia...

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2.- No such law exists that would force independent retailers to dedicate any portion of their operation in order to conform to anyone's cultural needs.

Didn't claim it was "legally required". I did though make the point it was a "cultural concession". Something you claim to be against, forcibly.

So, how are you going to prevent such "cultural concessions"? BTW, they also exist for New Zealanders and South Africans over here in Perth. Roll Eyes

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Re: Multiculturalism is a Complete & Total Failure!
Reply #93 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 9:13am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 12:01am:

Soren wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 8:37am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 11:58pm:

I see you avoided my question, Soren. How bloody unsurprising.

So, how does a 10% greater regular attendance at Mosque over that of Church make all Muslims suddenly so devout that they will become "raving beheading demanding, fatwa decreeing unhumourous people?"

Who, other than you, has said anything like what you are quoting? Who said, other than you, that the difference between 30 and 40 % matters?

You make up shite an expect me to take you seriously.

Unable to answer the question, Soren?

You erect your strawman view of Muslims and Islam in Australia. It's all you're capable of doing. Roll Eyes

It is not the 10% greater attendance. It is what is in the Koran and Mohammed's example that make them jihadis.

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Reply #94 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 2:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 12:47am:

Panther wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 5:19am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 11:59pm:

So, the fact that they have never become Australian citizens, despite living here often for many decades, 1.- forced the Australian government to accord to them voting and social security rights and even have 2.- dedicated Shops and shopping aisles to their cultural needs, you let them off?

You don't think that's a bit hypocritical?

1. - A flat out hallucination on your part. No force was exerted, nor was any bowed to. It was part of a Commonwealth exchange agreement between GB & Aus, which goes both ways, & ]does not include any cultural concessions. Australia has many such reciprocal financial agreements with other countries in our Commonwealth & elsewhere (USA for example - American Social Security payments are 'tax free' in Australia - not considered income for tax purposes or for Australian pension means testing purposes, etc..).

1.- Love how you skipped over the "voting rights" point. UK Immigrants who arrived before 1983 have full voting rights in Australia...

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2.- No such law exists that would force independent retailers to dedicate any portion of their operation in order to conform to anyone's cultural needs.

2.- Didn't claim it was "legally required". I did though make the point it was a "cultural concession". Something you claim to be against, forcibly.

3.- So, how are you going to prevent such "cultural concessions"? BTW, they also exist for New Zealanders and South Africans over here in Perth.

1.-
Voting Rights, Social Security, Visa-Less Travel....all part & parcel of that Commonwealth exchange agreement between GB & Australia I spoke of in my earlier answer. Do you read?? ....... Australia has many such reciprocal financial, & other agreements with other countries in our Commonwealth & elsewhere -- it's a Commonwealth Agreement.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with Multiculturalism, especially in the context of the Original Post, but I know you so want it to be ..... nice try, but not even close ---- soooo sorry, mate.

2.-
The only way to
force
(your word, not mine) the only way to
force
someone to do something you suggest is to
force
them to do it through law .....

Now, just because a grocery store
voluntarily
sets aside space for say... oriental spices & such ..... fella, that's for me, that's for you, & that's for everyone who want to use them in, & with, their foods ... & the grocery store does it --
not
as a "cultural concession" silly,
they do it for profits
.... it's Capitalism at it's best ..... if it makes money...sell it, if it doesn't....drop it.

JFYI --- Way more non-Orientals buy that stuff than Orientals anyway.

It's not a concession to them, its a marketing strategy & a win by the individual grocery store, & solely because it sells ...... get yer train back on track sonny, in yer desperation yer commin' off the rails!

3.-
There are no concessions, just mutually beneficial inter-Commonwealth agreements ..... NZ & RSA are also members of our Commonwealth of Nations.

You really auta get out more often fella, the real world is passin' ya by!

BTW.... This isn't you, you are not the Brian Ross depicted here, it's another Brian Ross.

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Reply #95 - Oct 29^th, 2014 at 8:19pm

Soren wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 12:01am:

Soren wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 8:37am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26^th, 2014 at 11:58pm:

I see you avoided my question, Soren. How bloody unsurprising.

So, how does a 10% greater regular attendance at Mosque over that of Church make all Muslims suddenly so devout that they will become "raving beheading demanding, fatwa decreeing unhumourous people?"

Who, other than you, has said anything like what you are quoting? Who said, other than you, that the difference between 30 and 40 % matters?

You make up shite an expect me to take you seriously.

Unable to answer the question, Soren?

You erect your strawman view of Muslims and Islam in Australia. It's all you're capable of doing. Roll Eyes

It is not the 10% greater attendance. It is what is in the Koran and Mohammed's example that make them jihadis.

This would explain the 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999.% who haven't become Mujahadeen, Soren? Roll Eyes

"Jihadi" is a terrible word BTW, its a bastardisation of what they should be referred to as - "Mujahadeen".

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Re: Multiculturalism is a Complete & Total Failure!
Reply #96 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 6:43am

Panther wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 8:43am:

Multiculturalism is a Complete & Total Failure...

...Multiculturalism is a life threatening cancer.

It's spread must stop...

Multiculturalism has failed in Australia.

Here's how it's been used in teaching radicalizing children in Australia .... note, the love & affection being taught to these 'should be innocent' Australian Cherubs:

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A Muslim youth group is under investigation after a disturbing video of children as young as six years old calling for an end to Australian democracy was unearthed by 7News.

In the vision, children as young as six years old call for violent action against non-Muslims and to reject Australia and its values.

Video reveals shocking radicalisation of Australian Muslim children

A terror risk expert says it's brainwashing, aimed at creating violent extremists.

The video shows four Australian children, aged six to 13, calling for an end to our way of life.

"These are disturbing and shocking images and they do raise concerns about the welfare of the four young boys who are identified in the video,” Family and Community Services Minister Gabrielle Upton said.

A group calling itself The Muslim Youth Project runs regular events for young children.

In the video of the event held on September 21 in 2013 in Lakemba, young boys rally under the banner "Soldiers of Khilafa" with a six-year-old proclaiming:

"You're never too young to be a Soldier for Khilafa."......
Continued

Source

Nip this in the bud .... now!!

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Reply #97 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 5:55pm

Panther wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 12:47am:

Panther wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 5:19am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 11:59pm:

So, the fact that they have never become Australian citizens, despite living here often for many decades, 1.- forced the Australian government to accord to them voting and social security rights and even have 2.- dedicated Shops and shopping aisles to their cultural needs, you let them off?

You don't think that's a bit hypocritical?

1. - A flat out hallucination on your part. No force was exerted, nor was any bowed to. It was part of a Commonwealth exchange agreement between GB & Aus, which goes both ways, & ]does not include any cultural concessions. Australia has many such reciprocal financial agreements with other countries in our Commonwealth & elsewhere (USA for example - American Social Security payments are 'tax free' in Australia - not considered income for tax purposes or for Australian pension means testing purposes, etc..).

1.- Love how you skipped over the "voting rights" point. UK Immigrants who arrived before 1983 have full voting rights in Australia...

Quote:

2.- No such law exists that would force independent retailers to dedicate any portion of their operation in order to conform to anyone's cultural needs.

2.- Didn't claim it was "legally required". I did though make the point it was a "cultural concession". Something you claim to be against, forcibly.

3.- So, how are you going to prevent such "cultural concessions"? BTW, they also exist for New Zealanders and South Africans over here in Perth.

1.-
Voting Rights, Social Security, Visa-Less Travel....all part & parcel of that Commonwealth exchange agreement between GB & Australia I spoke of in my earlier answer. Do you read?? ....... Australia has many such reciprocal financial, & other agreements with other countries in our Commonwealth & elsewhere -- it's a Commonwealth Agreement.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with Multiculturalism, especially in the context of the Original Post, but I know you so want it to be ..... nice try, but not even close ---- soooo sorry, mate. http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/CatchTheNaNaNa_Smaller.gif

2.-
The only way to
force
(your word, not mine) the only way to
force
someone to do something you suggest is to
force
them to do it through law .....

Now, just because a grocery store
voluntarily
sets aside space for say... oriental spices & such ..... fella, that's for me, that's for you, & that's for everyone who want to use them in, & with, their foods ... & the grocery store does it --
not
as a "cultural concession" silly,
they do it for profits
.... it's Capitalism at it's best ..... if it makes money...sell it, if it doesn't....drop it.

JFYI --- Way more non-Orientals buy that stuff than Orientals anyway.

It's not a concession to them, its a marketing strategy & a win by the individual grocery store, & solely because it sells ...... get yer train back on track sonny, in yer desperation yer commin' off the rails! http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/lol015.gif

3.-
There are no concessions, just mutually beneficial inter-Commonwealth agreements ..... NZ & RSA are also members of our Commonwealth of Nations.

You really auta get out more often fella, the real world is passin' ya by!

http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/BigGrin02.gif

BTW.... This isn't you, you are not the Brian Ross depicted here, it's another Brian Ross.

http://imgur.com/yZcMokh.jpg http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/chuckle002.gif

How old are you DreamryderX? Your continual use of crayon appears to show a mental age of about six. The fact that you claim one thing and then make exceptions for British/Kiwi/South Africans/etc. rather shows your prejudice. Roll Eyes

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Re: Multiculturalism is a Complete & Total Failure!
Reply #98 - Oct 30^th, 2014 at 7:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 30^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Panther wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 12:47am:

Panther wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 5:19am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 11:59pm:

So, the fact that they have never become Australian citizens, despite living here often for many decades, 1.- forced the Australian government to accord to them voting and social security rights and even have 2.- dedicated Shops and shopping aisles to their cultural needs, you let them off?

You don't think that's a bit hypocritical?

1. - A flat out hallucination on your part. No force was exerted, nor was any bowed to. It was part of a Commonwealth exchange agreement between GB & Aus, which goes both ways, & ]does not include any cultural concessions. Australia has many such reciprocal financial agreements with other countries in our Commonwealth & elsewhere (USA for example - American Social Security payments are 'tax free' in Australia - not considered income for tax purposes or for Australian pension means testing purposes, etc..).

1.- Love how you skipped over the "voting rights" point. UK Immigrants who arrived before 1983 have full voting rights in Australia...

Quote:

2.- No such law exists that would force independent retailers to dedicate any portion of their operation in order to conform to anyone's cultural needs.

2.- Didn't claim it was "legally required". I did though make the point it was a "cultural concession". Something you claim to be against, forcibly.

3.- So, how are you going to prevent such "cultural concessions"? BTW, they also exist for New Zealanders and South Africans over here in Perth.

1.-
Voting Rights, Social Security, Visa-Less Travel....all part & parcel of that Commonwealth exchange agreement between GB & Australia I spoke of in my earlier answer. Do you read?? ....... Australia has many such reciprocal financial, & other agreements with other countries in our Commonwealth & elsewhere -- it's a Commonwealth Agreement.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with Multiculturalism, especially in the context of the Original Post, but I know you so want it to be ..... nice try, but not even close ---- soooo sorry, mate. http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/CatchTheNaNaNa_Smaller.gif

2.-
The only way to
force
(your word, not mine) the only way to
force
someone to do something you suggest is to
force
them to do it through law .....

Now, just because a grocery store
voluntarily
sets aside space for say... oriental spices & such ..... fella, that's for me, that's for you, & that's for everyone who want to use them in, & with, their foods ... & the grocery store does it --
not
as a "cultural concession" silly,
they do it for profits
.... it's Capitalism at it's best ..... if it makes money...sell it, if it doesn't....drop it.

JFYI --- Way more non-Orientals buy that stuff than Orientals anyway.

It's not a concession to them, its a marketing strategy & a win by the individual grocery store, & solely because it sells ...... get yer train back on track sonny, in yer desperation yer commin' off the rails! http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/lol015.gif

3.-
There are no concessions, just mutually beneficial inter-Commonwealth agreements ..... NZ & RSA are also members of our Commonwealth of Nations.

You really auta get out more often fella, the real world is passin' ya by!

http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/BigGrin02.gif

BTW.... This isn't you, you are not the Brian Ross depicted here, it's another Brian Ross.

http://imgur.com/yZcMokh.jpg http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/chuckle002.gif

How old are you DreamryderX? Your continual use of crayon appears to show a mental age of about six. The fact that you claim one thing and then make exceptions for British/Kiwi/South Africans/etc. rather shows your prejudice. Roll Eyes

Here we go again ..... you can't intellectually refute the message,

so you attempt to attack the messenger.

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Reply #99 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:14am

When you learn to post without using crayons, I'll bother with the message. It neither has to use enlarged, coloured or bolded fonts or highlighted text. All that does is confuse the message. If you were as sure of your argument as you appear to believe you wouldn't need to use such theatrical tricks to distract from it, now would you? Roll Eyes

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Reply #100 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 8:44am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:14am:

When you learn to post without using crayons, I'll bother with the message. It neither has to use enlarged, coloured or bolded fonts or highlighted text. All that does is confuse the message. If you were as sure of your argument as you appear to believe you wouldn't need to use such theatrical tricks to distract from it, now would you? Roll Eyes

Sorry to hear you're easily confused, & probably annoyed when you're wrong, but as far as me using bold fonts, highlighted &/or coloured text, etc...,

Get

used
to
it.

BTW ..... I was just wondering because of the way you construct certain phrases ....
are you a Laugh till you cry sock puppet?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism is a Complete & Total Failure! Reply #102 - Nov 1^st, 2014 at 10:11pm Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 9:23pm: I think you need to return to the Nursery. I think you need to answer the questions, Brain. But you can't. And won't.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40817	Re: Multiculturalism is a Complete & Total Failure! Reply #103 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 1:00am Soren wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 10:11pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 9:23pm: I think you need to return to the Nursery. I think you need to answer the questions, Brain. But you can't. And won't. Questions? There are questions in amongst those crayon scribbles?
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Reply #104 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 12:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 1^st, 2014 at 9:23pm:

I think you need to return to the Nursery

Ad hominem Brian?

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 1:00am:

Questions? There are questions in amongst those crayon scribbles?

More ad hominem Brian?

How about your silly glyphs, do they add to content Brian?

Roll Eyes

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