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Reply #30 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 2:59pm

Panther wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 1:53pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 11:26am:

Spoken like a true fascist. YOU WILL ASSIMILATE! YOU WILL BECOME WHAT YOU ARE NOT! No choice, no maybe, no desire on the part of the host society to learn from what it's new immigrants may know? So, when will you establish your secret culture police to make sure they do what you demand?

Ignorant posts like this deserves no comment, so I won't honor it with one.
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Reply #31 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 3:08pm

I'm interested, how do you measure the success or failure of social policy like Multiculturalism? What is the process? Who does the measuring?

Then there is the question, who gets to decide if it's a success or a failure?

Most Australians in all the surveys I've seen have been quite happy with the concept of Multiculturalism. So, who is declaring it a failure? You, DreamRyderX? We know you're a fascist, so that doesn't really count! Grin

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King FriYAY II Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2109	Re: Multiculturalism is a Complete & Total Failure! Reply #32 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 3:50pm It is now. When the country needed people and workers to grow it was fine. But now it's just a forced issue - you have to take so many every year. A blender of cultures/religions and hate.
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Reply #33 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 6:35pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 3:08pm:

I'm interested, how do you measure the success or failure of social policy like Multiculturalism? What is the process? Who does the measuring?

Er... people don't shoot up your parliament because they have an allegiance to a repressive death cult?

How about that as a measure for starters? Too demanding and Anglo-centric for ya?

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Reply #34 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 3:08pm:

I'm interested, how do you measure the success or failure of social policy like Multiculturalism?

The only way the success of any policy is measured of course. The greatest good for the greatest number. Multiculturalism isn't perfect, however it has over the last century been generally successful, despite what it's critics claim. It has benefited most Australians, most of the time. There have been hiccups, without a doubt. Perhaps the most famous and the most obvious was the Cronulla Riots. However, that was speed hump, nothing more and what was gratifying was the way in which people rallied around the Muslim community and went into bat for it against the likes of Alan Jones and Pauline Hanson. They showed that Australians from all backgrounds valued the presence and contribution of most Muslims in Australia.

What is most remarkable about Multiculturalism in Australia is that we have seen such few events like Cronulla. Most of the time, most people have understood the rules and played by them - as long as you don't break the law, your culture/religion/etc. will be respected by everybody else.

Unfortunately, there are critics who don't fall into the category of "most people". They carry over old intolerances and hatreds and blacken the name of other Australians who just want to get along with one another.

It's a shame we see them parading their prejudice, hatreds and intolerance here all the time. Roll Eyes

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Reply #35 - Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 3:08pm:

I'm interested, how do you measure the success or failure of social policy like Multiculturalism?

The only way the success of any policy is measured of course. The greatest good for the greatest number. Multiculturalism isn't perfect, however it has over the last century been generally successful, despite what it's critics claim. It has benefited most Australians, most of the time. There have been hiccups, without a doubt. Perhaps the most famous and the most obvious was the Cronulla Riots. However, that was speed hump, nothing more and what was gratifying was the way in which people rallied around the Muslim community and went into bat for it against the likes of Alan Jones and Pauline Hanson. They showed that Australians from all backgrounds valued the presence and contribution of most Muslims in Australia.

What is most remarkable about Multiculturalism in Australia is that we have seen such few events like Cronulla. Most of the time, most people have understood the rules and played by them - as long as you don't break the law, your culture/religion/etc. will be respected by everybody else.

Unfortunately, there are critics who don't fall into the category of "most people". They carry over old intolerances and hatreds and blacken the name of other Australians who just want to get along with one another.

It's a shame we see them parading their prejudice, hatreds and intolerance here all the time. Roll Eyes

Fap, Brain, utter fappity fap.

Cronulla was a reaction. A response, not an opening gambit. A response to years of open rejection of assimilation, of fitting in, of accepting the ways of the established culture.

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Reply #36 - Oct 24^th, 2014 at 12:39am

Soren wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 3:08pm:

I'm interested, how do you measure the success or failure of social policy like Multiculturalism?

The only way the success of any policy is measured of course. The greatest good for the greatest number. Multiculturalism isn't perfect, however it has over the last century been generally successful, despite what it's critics claim. It has benefited most Australians, most of the time. There have been hiccups, without a doubt. Perhaps the most famous and the most obvious was the Cronulla Riots. However, that was speed hump, nothing more and what was gratifying was the way in which people rallied around the Muslim community and went into bat for it against the likes of Alan Jones and Pauline Hanson. They showed that Australians from all backgrounds valued the presence and contribution of most Muslims in Australia.

What is most remarkable about Multiculturalism in Australia is that we have seen such few events like Cronulla. Most of the time, most people have understood the rules and played by them - as long as you don't break the law, your culture/religion/etc. will be respected by everybody else.

Unfortunately, there are critics who don't fall into the category of "most people". They carry over old intolerances and hatreds and blacken the name of other Australians who just want to get along with one another.

It's a shame we see them parading their prejudice, hatreds and intolerance here all the time. Roll Eyes

Fap, Brain, utter fappity fap.

Cronulla was a reaction. A response, not an opening gambit. A response to years of open rejection of assimilation, of fitting in, of accepting the ways of the established culture.

Everything you're saying now about the Muslims was said about the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Dutch, the Germans, the Indochinese and now the Africans and the Musims, Soren.

Just like those previous groups, those later groups will be absorbed into Australian society and become a part of it, long after you're dead and buried. Ultimately all you're doing is expending hot air. Roll Eyes

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Reply #37 - Oct 24^th, 2014 at 8:09am

Soren wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2014 at 9:03pm:

Cronulla was a reaction. A response, not an opening gambit. A response to years of open rejection of assimilation, of fitting in, of accepting the ways of the established culture.

I agree all those idiots in the Shire, were sick of being told they were part of the rest of Sydney and rioted.

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Reply #38 - Oct 24^th, 2014 at 8:30am

Well, as far as I'm concerned, IMHO, Multiculturalism is such a failure not because of any religion, no, it all has to do with Ideology . Any claim that the cause is religion based is flat out wrong.....

Now, that said....

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Everything you're saying now about the Muslims was said about the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Dutch, the Germans.................yadda, yadda, yadda.....

In the last 50 years, did the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Dutch, the Germans, etc.. demand beheading & the wanton murder of innocents as retaliation for simply disagreeing with their ideological positions?

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Reply #39 - Oct 24^th, 2014 at 9:50am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 12:39am:

Everything you're saying now about the Muslims was said about the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Dutch, the Germans, the Indochinese and now the Africans and the Musims, Soren.

Just like those previous groups, those later groups will be absorbed into Australian society and become a part of it, long after you're dead and buried. Ultimately all you're doing is expending hot air. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

The previous waves, especially the Europeans, were not agitating for nazism or communism and their second and third generation are completely assimilated.

With Muslim it's the second and third generation that is hot for jihad, niqabs, beards and all the sharia stuff. They do NOT want to be absorbed, they do not want to assimilate.

Look at those photos and vids from the 2012 Sydney riots. They are young, uglified with hideous beards and are shouting with an Australian accent.

This is a significant difference an only the wilfully blind like you do not see it. What do you think thy mean by 'our' and 'your' on thi placard, Brain? Where does the line of separation run?

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Reply #40 - Oct 24^th, 2014 at 10:56pm

Soren wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 12:39am:

Everything you're saying now about the Muslims was said about the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Dutch, the Germans, the Indochinese and now the Africans and the Musims, Soren.

Just like those previous groups, those later groups will be absorbed into Australian society and become a part of it, long after you're dead and buried. Ultimately all you're doing is expending hot air. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

The previous waves, especially the Europeans, were not agitating for nazism or communism and their second and third generation are completely assimilated.

Soren,

You really are an ignorant fool. You know nothing about Australian history.

http://www.angelfire.com/planet/panca/nazi_plans_australia.htm

http://www.scholarly.info/book/283/

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/barossa-lied-about-war-injustice/story-fn6bqpju-1226055655263

http://www.jewishmag.com/48mag/nazis/nazis.htm

http://yourmemento.naa.gov.au/2011/07/arnold-von-skerst-australia%E2%80%99s-own-red-hot-nazi/

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Reply #41 - Oct 25^th, 2014 at 2:09am

Panther wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 8:30am:

Well, as far as I'm concerned, IMHO, Multiculturalism is such a failure not because of any religion, no, it all has to do with Ideology . Any claim that the cause is religion based is flat out wrong.....

Now, that said....

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Everything you're saying now about the Muslims was said about the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Dutch, the Germans.................yadda, yadda, yadda.....

In the last 50 years, did the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Dutch, the Germans, etc.. demand beheading & the wanton murder of innocents as retaliation for simply disagreeing with their ideological positions?

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Since 1964, you say?

Gee, that just leaves the IRA, Mao’s Cultural Revolution, the Greek Junta, warring Serbs and Croats and a teenie tiny attempt at Bosnian genocide.

Not Muslims, of course, so nuffin to do wiv nuffin.

Innit, PB.

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Reply #42 - Oct 25^th, 2014 at 7:51am

Panther wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 10:04am:

Why is MULTICULTURALISM a Failure?

Simply, but not only because, it segregates Society --- it divides rather than unites Culture & Society overall.

"A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand."

This guy has confused bad legislation with multiculturalism.

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Reply #43 - Oct 25^th, 2014 at 7:53am

Soren wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24^th, 2014 at 12:39am:

Everything you're saying now about the Muslims was said about the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Greeks, the Yugoslavs, the Dutch, the Germans, the Indochinese and now the Africans and the Musims, Soren.

Just like those previous groups, those later groups will be absorbed into Australian society and become a part of it, long after you're dead and buried. Ultimately all you're doing is expending hot air. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

The previous waves, especially the Europeans, were not agitating for nazism or communism and their second and third generation are completely assimilated.

With Muslim it's the second and third generation that is hot for jihad, niqabs, beards and all the sharia stuff. They do NOT want to be absorbed, they do not want to assimilate.

Look at those photos and vids from the 2012 Sydney riots. They are young, uglified with hideous beards and are shouting with an Australian accent.

This is a significant difference an only the wilfully blind like you do not see it. What do you think thy mean by 'our' and 'your' on thi placard, Brain? Where does the line of separation run?

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/09/15/1226474/762098-protesters.jpg

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Reply #44 - Oct 25^th, 2014 at 8:00am

Channel Seven is bringing back the racist sitcom Love Thy Neighbour

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AUSTRALIA’S leading TV network has scheduled twice daily screenings of a 40-year-old UK sitcom in which the black characters are called “nig-nogs” and “sambo” by their white neighbour.

Love Thy Neighbour — reviled as the “epitome of racist sitcom” by the British Film Institute — spawned eight seasons and a movie in the 1970s, and starts again on 7 Two next week.

Its premise — a black couple moves next door to a white supremacist and his moderate wife, evoking his disgust and setting off an unrelenting outpouring of racist abuse and innuendo — was regarded as the height of comedy on British TV in 1972.

The white husband’s favourite words to refer to the black characters were “nig-nog”, “sambo” and “Mrs sambo”. Prevailing themes included the white character’s fear his neighbours practised voodoo and cannibalism, his belief in the “purity” of white thoughts compared to the “sin” of the “black soul” and the black man’s heightened and uncontrollable sexual urges.

By the third episode he was starting a petition to “keep the street white”.

Even so, Australia’s Race Discrimination Commissioner Dr Tim Soutphommansane said the show, which goes to air in its original state, did not breach the Racial Discrimination Act.

A spokesman for the Seven network said “Love Thy Neighbour is one of those English comedies of its time and Eddie [the white character] who is quite rightly portrayed as a fool and a bigot.”

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/channel-seven-is-bringing-back-the-racis...

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Question: Do you think Multiculturalism is a complete failure
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