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Like I have pointed out several times in response to this BS argument - that is the very definition of freedom of speech - the right to say something you might not like. People expressed disgust with piss christ also. This does not mean they support the government trying to place religion beyond criticism or mockery. By making this argument you merely demonstrate the inability of Muslims to even comprehend what freedom of speech means. I invite you to respond to this, rather than simply ignoring it then repeating yourself after a few pages of desperately trying to change the topic.

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

A survey saying a massive majority of Australians want the government to place religion beyond criticism or mockery does... well... mean they support the government trying to place religion beyond criticism or mockery.

As promised:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1369558442/404#404

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It should be unlawful to offend someone on the basis of their race, culture or religion: strongly agree: 27% agree 38.7%

It should be unlawful to humiliate someone on the basis of their race, culture or religion: strongly agree: 29% agree 44.7%

It should be unlawful to insult someone on the basis of their race, culture or religion: strongly agree: 28% agree 43.5%

http://theconversation.com/what-do-australian-internet-users-think-about-racial-...

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2014 at 11:35am:


You can try and explain away "insult", "offend" and "humiliate" someone on the basis of religion - as not having anything to do with wanting to place religion beyond criticism or mockery, but you are being your usual dishonest, spineless-apologist self. Its just a continuation of the excruciating long-running saga of FD performing the most absurd hypocritical contortions to sustain his pathetic anti-muslim prejudice.

freediver wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 1:14pm:


Vintage FD. Don't worry, I'll save you the embarrassment of having to explain yourself there - because frankly, I just can't be arsed. Suffice to say your blatant hypocricy and spineless apologism for any hint of "anti-freeedom" sentiment amongst the "good" non-muslim population is duly noted.

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:


The claim is a perfect interpretation of what people are saying. You can't mock religion without mocking the people who follow it. I have no idea what non-existent straws you are trying to split, but it reeks of rank hypocricy. Really, your desperation to obfuscate the bleeding obvious, just to avoid any risk that non-muslims might be "as bad" as muslims, couldn't be more pathetic


freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:


Yes the bit about me "trying to reinterpret their responses".

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:


If you could just see yourself FD, this hypocritical dance is trully a sight to behold. When Malaysians answer a consequence-free yes/no question about apostates, all the wrath of FD's judgment comes down on them - straight away they are murderous, religious zealots - "little Hitlers" in fact - and any attempts to rationalise their responses is instantly branded as the the most heinous of spineless apologetics. Now we have "enlightened" non-muslims giving inconvenient responses to questions on freedom of speech  - clearly expressing their desire to put religion beyond mockery, guilty of the same grave crime of "siding against freedom" that only muslims should be guilty of, and suddenly FD is all nuanced about it.

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:


Rubbish. Only the most spectacular efforts in mental gymnastics could split hairs like this. Religions don't exist without people following them. You don't make abstract mockery of "religions" without mocking the people who follow it - because one doesn't exist without the other - obviously. You won't find anyone who considers the Danish cartoons as anything other than insulting or offending muslims, and most Australians said at the time they thought it was wrong to do so. And consistent with this, most Australians say they think it should be unlawful to mock people on the basis of religion.

But once again, we see FD masterfully steering the discussion into irrelevant minutiae, just to distract from the core issue. Merely mocking people on the basis of religion alone is clearly something that should be sacrosanct under FD ideology, and should be protected at all costs. By rejecting this, the majority of Australians are displaying the very spineless apologetics that FD rails against day in day out (as long as they are muslims or muslim apologists).

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:


You are an extremist, and you are a hypocrite.

Going against what a majority of Australians believe about balancing freedom with protecting minorities makes you an extremist - by simple definition.

And the fact that you spinelessly apologise for non-muslims chipping away at our freedoms - whether it be regarding them wanting people to be protected against offense based on their religion, or wanting an historical opinion to be made a thought crime - makes you a hypocrite.

freediver wrote on Oct 27^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:


You said in a previous post that its anti-freedom - but only on the surface. Then you BS about some "flaws" that you have never elaborated on, and tried to dismiss the whole survey as not saying what it says.

Please tell me FD - how does believing people should not be insulted/offended on the basis of religion - somehow become not believing that people should not be insulted/offended on the basis of religion?

Good luck with trying to answer that and claim you are not the one reinterpreting the results at the same time.

Don’t worry, FD. Abu should be along any day now to apologize and say you were right all along.

Soren wrote on Oct 28^th, 2014 at 11:01pm:


Is he? That’s a relief. I was starting to feel for him for a minute there. I have no idea what he’s saying, but I’m.glad he’s right.

We’re all right in our own little ways, no?

But once again, we see FD masterfully steering the discussion into irrelevant minutiae, just to distract from the core issue. Merely mocking people on the basis of religion alone is clearly something that should be sacrosanct under FD ideology, and should be protected at all costs. By rejecting this, the majority of Australians are displaying the very spineless apologetics that FD rails against day in day out (as long as they are muslims or muslim apologists).

That would leave lefties out in the cold as they are terrified of criticizing islam / terrorism.