polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 13
th, 2014 at 1:29pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 12
th, 2014 at 7:36pm:
You are oversimplifying my argument Gandalf.
Oh I know FD - when non-muslims chip away at our freedoms, its an incredibly complicated thing - far too complicated for me, as you have pointed out.
But of course when we want to accuse muslims of doing the same, we overgeneralise and simplify like there's no tomorrow.
Yes, far too complicated apparently. Do you still stand by this claim?
Quote:A survey saying a massive majority of Australians want the government to place religion beyond criticism or mockery does... well... mean they support the government trying to place religion beyond criticism or mockery.
moses wrote on Nov 13
th, 2014 at 3:20pm:
The shame is that muslims and their apologists will go to any lengths to avoid the issue: devout muslim terrorists can and do justify their atrocities, by directly citing the teachings of muhammad.
To stop the terrorists you have to clean up the teachings of muhammad, since the muslims and their apologists are scared of this problem, mockery and exposure of the cult is the way to go
They are happy with the problem. It is the solution that scares them.
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 13
th, 2014 at 3:57pm:
Moses: 99%+ of muslims cite the teachings of Muhammad to support their peaceful ways - but its the >1% who don't, who are the "true" muslims.
We have actual surveys of the opinions of Muslims from around the world, and they are not pretty.
|dev|null wrote on Nov 13
th, 2014 at 4:06pm:
HB are you conceding that the teachings of Jesus and Muhammed are fundamentally different?