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Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims?
Reply #60 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 4:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 11:28pm:

Yet, you act as if it is what you believe, Soren. You imply it, everytime you erect that strawman claim that the Terrorists are the real representatives of Islam and that what they are doing is what Islam demands of them, each and everytime they cut a head off.

I never, ever claimed that the terrorists are the real representatives. I claim that they are impeccably Islamic. They are doing what they take Islam to demand of them. They are not distorting anything.

Can others, the peaceful majority, ignore the particular passages and teachings that exercise ISIL? Yes they can and they do. But these passages are there, irrefutably, and they are the basis of terrorism.

No imaginary Christian or Buddhist terrorist could claim that Jesus or the Buddha said kill all the unbelievers where ever you find them, unless they convert or pay you a levy because Jesus or Buddha said no such thing. They couldn't say that Jesus or Buddha told them to rape their captive women because they did not say anything like that.

Not so with Muslims and Islamic texts (unalterable final words of God texts, no less).

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 11:28pm:

Then, of course there is what Sh'ria is, exactly. Many different versions, many different interpretations, all different. You however, keep acting as if there is only one interpretation of what Sh'ria is!

No, Brain. Sharia is the law given by Allah in the Koran. So the second class status of nonMuslims is uniform in every interpretation of sharia. So is the second-class status of women.
When it comes to the directives in the Koran, there is no room to negotiate.

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Reply #61 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:37pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:43pm:

Karnal,
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True, but the old boy War Against Terror crowd were stupid enough to pretend Saddam.was the problem. They know they lied, but they pretend they did so for a good cause.

Oh, let’s just go in. Surely we can liberate Iraq and bring Freedom to the Middle East. FD still refuses to admit that we didn’t. The old boy likes to pretend how disappointed he is that Iraqis turned down our kind offer.

You know, because of their religion.

Saddam was a bastard. The fakes are worse. Forget Saudi sheiks. The shifting sands of oil politics have nothing on the old boy crowd. These people will stop.at nothing.

And so it is.

Hi Karnal,
Yes - remember when Iraq was going to be a beacon of democratic light
shining out across the Middle East?

The Americans are dreamers.
Mussies could never live in a democratic country -
they are too brainwashed by their stupid religion.

And so it is

all part of the divine plan

namaste

Are you nuts? Amerika left both Iran and Iraq far more Islamic and radicalised than they were before they went in.

Both countries started out as secular. After Uncle, both are now Shi’ite states.

As for Saudi Arabia, it’s a Fascist state.

Read FD’s Pew Survey. Strangely, the most liberal Muslim.majority countries appear to be the ex-Soviet ones.

What does that tell you about Freeeedom?

America brings Freeeedom.

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MumboJumbo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1474 Gender:	Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims? Reply #62 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:13pm Soren wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 4:49pm: Not so with Muslims and Islamic texts (unalterable final words of God texts, no less). Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:37pm: America brings Freeeedom.
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Reply #63 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:52pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 12:30pm:

[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1414814389/34#34 date=1415068064]ISIS kills 300 members of Sunni tribe, Iraqi government says
By Odai Sadik and Steve Almasy, CNN
November 4, 2014 -- Updated 0045 GMT (0845 HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/03/world/meast/isis-mass-killing/index.html?hpt=h...

Some of the 322 people executed were women and children,
Iraq's Ministry of Human Rights said.

The libbos and the coalition of the killing are responsible for this mess now. They got rid of the 'evil dictator' which was the only person able to keep Iraq under control.

Yes Sir Nail,

Saddam knew what to do with terrorists.

True, but the old boy War Against Terror crowd were stupid enough to pretend Saddam.was the problem. They know they lied, but they pretend they did so for a good cause.

Oh, let’s just go in. Surely we can liberate Iraq and bring Freeedom to the Middle East. FD still refuses to admit that we didn’t. The old boy likes to pretend how disappointed he is that Iraqis turned down our kind offer.

You know, because of their religion.

Saddam was a bastard. The fakes are worse. Forget Saudi sheiks. The shifting sands of oil politics have nothing on the old boy crowd. These people will stop.at nothing.

And so it is.

Paki Bvgger gibberish, as always.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 97360	Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims? Reply #64 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:04pm You’re on a roll tonight, old boy. Gibberish. Idiot. Good old post number one. Now you say the same to Brain and we’ll complete our nightly ritual. I need to get you off to bed before Sister finishes.
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Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims?
Reply #65 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:12pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

You’re on a roll tonight, old boy. Gibberish. Idiot. Good old post number one.

Now you say the same to Brain and we’ll complete our nightly ritual. I need to get you off to bed before Sister finishes.

But we all agree -

Saddam knew what to do with terrorists.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 97360	Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims? Reply #66 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:17pm I don’t know, Bobbie, let me guess. Hang em high? Looks like you’ve got competition, old boy.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 108482 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims? Reply #67 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:40pm Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:17pm: I don’t know, Bobbie, let me guess. Hang em high? Looks like you’ve got competition, old boy. Well whatever he did you can guarantee that ISIS would not have lasted a week in Iraq if he was the leader.
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Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims?
Reply #68 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:17pm:

I don’t know, Bobbie, let me guess.

Hang em high?

Looks like you’ve got competition, old boy.

Well whatever he did you can guarantee that ISIS

would not have lasted a week in Iraq if he was the leader.

Better tell FD. He thinks Iraq is the next South Korea.

Thanks to our gift of Freeeeedom.

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Reply #69 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 6:55am

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:17pm:

I don’t know, Bobbie, let me guess.

Hang em high?

Looks like you’ve got competition, old boy.

Well whatever he did you can guarantee that ISIS

would not have lasted a week in Iraq if he was the leader.

Better tell FD. He thinks Iraq is the next South Korea.

Thanks to our gift of Freeeeedom.

Really?

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Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims?
Reply #70 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 12:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 6:55am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 9:17pm:

I don’t know, Bobbie, let me guess.

Hang em high?

Looks like you’ve got competition, old boy.

Well whatever he did you can guarantee that ISIS

would not have lasted a week in Iraq if he was the leader.

Better tell FD. He thinks Iraq is the next South Korea.

Thanks to our gift of Freeeeedom.

Really?

I kid you not. Do you think I could possibly make this up?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 108482 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims? Reply #71 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 4:44pm Freediver is forgiven namaste
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Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims?
Reply #72 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 6:49pm

Freediver’s not taking any more questions. He knows how to play the game.

I do hope FD doesn’t feel offended. That’s now classed as an attack - if a Muslim does it.

If not, we just pretend he did. It’s called suspension of disbelief. We do it all the time when we watch actors pretending to be characters on TV.

FD wants this applied to real life. You gotta have a dream, you see.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49778 At my desk.	Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims? Reply #73 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 7:13pm Feel free to quote me Karnal.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 97360	Re: Perhaps this is why the Islamophobes fear Muslims? Reply #74 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 7:19pm freediver wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 7:13pm: Feel free to quote me Karnal. I just did, FD. You didn’t reply. But we know what you’re thinking. Cunning, no?
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