Check this out, Bobbie.

FD, do you think Iraq could be the next South Korea after we gave them Freeedom?

I’m curious.

Re: Perhaps this is why the "Islamophobes" fear Muslims?


(Raymond Ibrahim)



Startlingly well put.



On radicalisation of Muslim yuf:
After terror attacks, Western leaders routinely call on Muslim clerics and community representatives to condemn the acts as a message to would-be radicals in their flock. But for Muslim radicals, wrote University of South Australia academic Yassir Morsi in The Guardian in August, being condemned "is itself an affirmation".  According to this school of thought, supine community leaders provoke contempt among young Muslims, further entrenching their rad... I know, it's getting tedious.

On the shopping list of factors that are/might/could encourage radicalisation are proposals to cut welfare payments to people engaged in extremist conduct and not having Islamic chaplains in schools. Add to all this the bewildering and varied individual vulnerabilities to radicalisation, the needles in the haystack: single parent households, drug use, criminal activity, religious conversion, mental illness.

The point of this exercise is not to weigh the merits of these theories. Suffice to say, some seem sensible enough, others less so. (The one that made me laugh out loud came from American commentator Lee Smith who asserted teenage girls in Europe are joining ISIL because the West can't offer them "meaning and purpose", all but laying the blame at the feet of One Direction.)

The problem with this loose talk about radicalisation is probably twofold. In the racism of low expectations it verges on casting Muslims as tinderbox volatile, at risk of exploding if the wrong thing is broadcast or said or done. On the flip side, there's a subtle intimidation at work. Everything we do is fatally wrong. We're damned if we move against extremism, we're damned if we don't - and should a catastrophic attack occur then sure as night follows day it'll be our fault.
http://www.watoday.com.au/comment/radicalisation-every-answer-is-always-wrong-20...

Especially silly YouTube videos. Very potent radicalisers.

Exercising your freedom of speech is the best way to defend it Karnal.

Karnal wrote on Nov 8^th, 2014 at 2:32pm:

See? Complete, idiotic gibberish.
Like Brain and other heresy sniffers, you confuse (deliberately? are you that stupid?) opposition to something with offense.
I do not oppose the ostentatious display of anachronistic efnik dress, manner and values because they merely offend. I do not argue that they have no place in western, secular, liberal countries merely because they offend me. Being offended is not an arguement in itself.

Soren wrote on Nov 8^th, 2014 at 3:09pm:


Oh, old boy. Are you saying you don’t take offence at women in headscarves and bearded numpties? Are you saying they don’t represent everything that is offensive to you and should be criticised and ridiculed at every opportunity?

Idiotic gibberish, eh? How many times have you told us this, old boy?

A fair few, I’d say. I know the words off by heart.

No one has the right to not be offended.

freediver wrote on Nov 8^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:


I know, FD, that’s exactly what the old boy is saying.

If you don’t give those who offend you a piece of your mind, you’re just begging to have your Freeeedom taken away.

You know, PBs, deviants, dirty little inverts, bearded numpties, idiots, the tinted races, Muselmen...

How dare they parade themselves in such a way? To do so offends everything we as a civilised race stand for. Decency, normality, Freudian Lutheran values. The old boy didn’t come to this country to be offended. How can they do this to him?

No, FD, no one has the right to not be offended. We need to stick it to the deviants to protect our Freeeedom.

Karnal wrote on Nov 8^th, 2014 at 6:08pm:

Yes, I told you this a fair few times but you are as thick and mendacious as ever and so you pretend not to comprehend.

Incomprehension is your base line, PB. Holding forth with great intellectual pretence in one minute, then carrying on like a fvcken looney the next, when your intellectual pretences are shown up for the vacuous BS they are.

Put on a headscarfe, PB, and assume a silent Muslima demeanure,  because exposing yourself like this is an embarrassment to you, a female Muselwoman, and all of us onlookers.