So apparently there are no Australian non muslims presently engaged in terror activities?

moses wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 4:03pm:


If you claim this by selecting from a list of exclusively Muslim Extremist groups then yes.

But your definition is just farcical.

again by the way:

Stratos wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 3:58pm:

islamic doctrine supports, condones, exhorts muslims to embrace human rights atrocities against anybody they disagree with, it's no surprise to me that muslims turn to being active terrorists.

Apologists are unable to come up with any Australian non muslims presently supporting terrorism

So the facts for Australia are, muslims are thousands of times more likely to be a terrorist than any Australian non muslim.

Why all the sidestepping around the facts?

Have you got any verifiable figures or not?

Because I believe that (in Australia) muslims are thousands of times more likely to be a terrorist than non muslims.

This information is part of the quest to have muslims examine the doctrine of islam, which exhorts human rights atrocities.

Of course I know this has you running scared, as you are well aware that islam can stand no critical examination, truth will destroy islam.

From The Australian National Security Site

Listed terrorist organisations

For an effective counter-terrorism regime, it is vital that our laws target not only terrorist acts, but also the organisations that plan, finance and carry out such acts. In 2002, a range of terrorist organisation offences were introduced into the Criminal Code Act 1995. More information is available on the Laws to combat terrorism page.

Under the law, there are two ways for an organisation to be identified as a terrorist organisation. Either an organisation may be found to be such an organisation by a court as part of the prosecution for a terrorist offence, or it may be specified in Regulations, known as ‘listing’. For a listing to be effective, the processes set out in the legislation must be followed.

For more information on the process and requirements that apply to the listing of terrorist organisations, go to the Protocol for listing terrorist organisations page.

There are 19 organisations officially listed. They are:

Abu Sayyaf Group
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010 and 12 July 2013

Al-Qa'ida (AQ)
Listed 21 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 8 August 2008, 22 July 2010 and 12 July 2013

Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)[/b]
Listed 26 November 2010, re-listed 26 November 2013

Al-Qa'ida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010 and 12 July 2013

Al-Shabaab
Listed 22 August 2009 and 18 August 2012

Ansar al-Islam
Formerly known as Ansar al-Sunna—Listed 27 March 2003, re-listed 27 March 2005, 24 March 2007, 14 March 2009 and 9 March 2012

Boko Haram
Listed 26 June 2014.

Hamas's Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 10 September 2007, 8 September 2009 and 18 August 2012

Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)
Listed 5 June 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 25 May 2007, 16 May 2009 and 10 May 2012

Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009 and 9 March 2012

Islamic State
Formerly listed as Al-Qa’ida in Iraq - 2 March 2005, re-listed 17 February 2007, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013. Formerly listed as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant on 14 December 2013. Listed 11 July 2014 as Islamic State.

Jabhat al-Nusra
Listed 28 June 2013

Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009 and 9 March 2012

Jamiat ul-Ansar
Formerly known as Harakat Ul-Mujahideen—Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010 and 12 July 2013

Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)
Listed 27 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010 and 12 July 2013

Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)
Listed 17 December 2005, re-listed 28 September 2007, 8 September 2009 and 18 August 2012

Lashkar-e Jhangvi (LeJ)
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009 and 9 March 2012

Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009 and 18 August 2012

Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Listed 3 May 2004, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009 and 18 August 2012

Are there any Australian non muslims presently supporting any of these terrorist groups?

moses wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 4:40pm:



"running scared"?  Why?

I'm not a Muslim.

Moreover, I think that Islam is a particularly silly religion.

Perhaps you've mistaken me for someone else.

The only person that seems scared, is you.

Stratos wrote: Quote:


Some extracts from this source

A group Australia first designated as a terrorist organisation in December 2005 - the PKK or the Kurdistan Workers Party - is working directly with the Kurdish Peshmergaforces that Australia and other Western nations are arming in northern Iraq in the fight against the Islamic State group.

It was PKK's presence (along with their YPG counterparts from Syria) on Mount Sinjar that provided a safe passage for thousands of minority Yazidis to escape starvation and death after they fled to the mountain from Islamic State militants who took over their villages, kidnapped women and children and executed hundreds of men

There is not yet any indication that PKK fighters are using Australian-delivered munitions Kurdish officials say have been distributed across the region's vast 1050 kilometre frontline, but it is clear the two forces are working hand-in-hand in many areas.

When Prime Minister Tony Abbott first announced Australia's renewed military involvement in Iraq, he was asked about concerns that arms delivered by the RAAF could fall into the hands of the PKK. His response: the Kurdish government had assured the US and others that the weapons will be used by the Peshmerga.

And now some European politicians are openly discussing removing the terrorist designation assigned to the PKK, encouraged by developments in Turkey and by the PKK's prominent role in the fight against Islamic State terrorists.

Given the PKK is now an open and important partner in the international fight against the Islamic State - a "death cult" according to Mr Abbott - it remains to be seen whether Australia will do the same.