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Nov 4th, 2014 at 9:46pm
 
Australia's overseas oil supplies have been flagged as possible targets by Al Qaeda terrorists.

In a message printed in its English language magazine Resurgence, the terror group urged jihadists to target the "Achilles Heel of western economies" and identified choke points ripe for attack, including oil routes to Australia.

Former deputy chief of the Air Force, Air Vice Marshal John Blackburn, said it is a significant threat.

"It has been pretty obvious for a long time that if terrorists really wanted to affect western nations they would go for the blood supply, the fuel supply," Air Vice Marshal John Blackburn told 7.30.

"I think that report is another reminder to us that the world has changed.

"We can't assume the way these supply chains have worked in the past is the way it is going to continue."

Australia has become increasingly reliant on overseas oil over the past decade with local production and refining capacity both falling.

More than 90 per cent of the nation's required oil is now imported.

More than half of that comes from the Middle East, through the Straits of Hormuz to Singapore, and then through the narrow Straits of Malacca, which is renowned for its piracy.

Former Deputy Chief of the Air Force, Air Vice Marshal John Blackburn
PHOTO: Former Deputy Chief of the Air Force Air Vice Marshal John Blackburn warns a severe fuel shortage could see "society collapse". (ABC:7.30)
Air Vice Marshall Blackburn said the effect of any interruption to oil supply could be sudden and catastrophic.

"After a week we are going to see serious problems," he said.

"We have something like 12 days' stock holdings of diesel and in some areas, we believe that other types of fuel could be as low as a week.

"Our food supply in Sydney for one week alone there's about 45,000 truck trips distributing food.

"You'd probably start to see the food run short in the shops in about three or four days.

"The average supermarket holds about a week's worth of stocks and only a few days of frozen foods. You'd see chemists start to run out of stock within 3-4 days.

"Businesses would start to close down if they couldn't get fuel for a week or two and some businesses wouldn't start up again.

"Our services that we take for granted, electricity supply, water supply - none of this can happen without fuel for the support elements for those functions, so you'd start to see society collapse."

'You'd start to see society collapse'

By 2015, half of Australia's oil refineries will have shut down in just 10 years.

Nic Moulis of the Australian Convenience and Petroleum Marketers Association said Australian plants simply cannot compete with the huge, modern mega-refineries overseas.

"They have changed the ball game for the Australian market," he said.

"Their size and economies of scale have meant that they can refine fuel at a far more economic price than we can here in Australia."

General Manager of Supply at Caltex Australia Andrew Brewer
PHOTO: General Manager of Supply at Caltex Andrew Brewer says Australia has successfully handled fuel supply interruptions in the past. (ABC: 7.30)
But successive governments and industry dismiss the doomsday scenario.

In a statement to 7.30, Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane said: "At any given time Australia has crude oil and refined product on the way to Australia by diverse shipping routes.

"In the unlikely event that fuel supply is severely disrupted, the Australian Government has powers ... to prioritise essential supply."

His position is backed by the general manager of supply at Caltex Australia, Andrew Brewer.

"I look at how Australia has handled fuel supply interruptions in the past, we've seen multiple developments internationally, - Fukushima, the GFC, local events such as the Queensland cyclones - and in all those cases the industry's been able to provide fuel reliably and securely for customers," Mr Brewer said.

Other countries like the US and EU nations have mandatory stockpiles of oil for just such an emergency held in huge tanks or reservoirs.

When Australia supplied more of its own oil, it entered an agreement with the International Energy Agency to hold a similar 90-day stockpile, but in recent years it has not done so.

"A recent government study estimated that a cost of $6.8 billion would be required to meet the infrastructure and supply requirements to meet the 90-day requirement," Mr Brewer said.

"That cost has to be paid by someone and in transport fuel solution in the end, the customer's going to pay for that.

"So it's a question [of] whether people believe that's a justifiable cost to take it to 90 days."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-04/al-qaeda-threatens-to-target-australias-ov...
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Reply #1 - Nov 4th, 2014 at 10:01pm
 
Ah, at it again I see...

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Reply #2 - Nov 4th, 2014 at 10:35pm
 
It's another sign of the End Times.
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It's as simple as this.....if our fuel lines in the Malacca Straights are cut off, we will be seeking overseas food and medical aid within the week.

Australia will come to a stand still.

It's quite surprising that we have no local back up fuel supply......sitting ducks.

If, however our leaders had have had the common sense to stay out of American initiated wars, we wouldn't have this worry.

The question is "Would Al Qaeda have the ability to do this"? Would ISIS have the ability to do this?

Interesting times ahead.
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Reply #4 - Nov 5th, 2014 at 8:14am
 
The last two quarters have not seen decline, only growth, so there goes your theory!
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 8:14am:
The last two quarters have not seen decline, only growth, so there goes your theory!

Run along now, and let the adults talk.
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Armpit is partly right, unemployment has grown.
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Air Vice Marshall Blackburn said the effect of any interruption to oil supply could be sudden and catastrophic.

"After a week we are going to see serious problems," he said.

"We have something like 12 days' stock holdings of diesel and in some areas, we believe that other types of fuel could be as low as a week.

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Other countries like the US and EU nations have mandatory stockpiles of oil for just such an emergency held in huge tanks or reservoirs.

When Australia supplied more of its own oil, it entered an agreement with the International Energy Agency to hold a similar 90-day stockpile, but in recent years it has not done so.

Allowing the reserve fuel supply to drop so low shows complacency by the government. (It has been going on for some time, so I blame both sides here.) Even if the fuel didn't actually run out, a more likely outcome would be a shortage, and this will cause prices to spike; a doubling in price in a matter of weeks is possible. Can you afford to buy petrol at $3 a litre?

This is why we need to restore a mandatory 90-day fuel reserve as a part of sensible contingency planning.
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And much more renewable energy and electrification and upgrading of rail lines, urban, rural, interstate.
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____ wrote on Nov 4th, 2014 at 9:46pm:
Australia's overseas oil supplies have been flagged as possible targets by Al Qaeda terrorists.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-04/al-qaeda-threatens-to-target-australias-ov...


What the hell has oil got to do with people who are pursuing peace. The message has been dinned into us countless times "Islam is a religion of peace" so why are peace loving people making threats?
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St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 9:37am:
And much more renewable energy and electrification and upgrading of rail lines, urban, rural, interstate.

This would be policy for the longer term. The most immediate thing we can do to assure fuel security is to have a 90-day fuel reserve.

We also need our own refining capability, including the ability to convert coal into oil, as well as the creation of a viable biofuel industry. There is no reason why we cannot be self-sufficient in fuel, except a lack of political will.

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Bam wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 12:06pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 9:37am:
And much more renewable energy and electrification and upgrading of rail lines, urban, rural, interstate.

This would be policy for the longer term. The most immediate thing we can do to assure fuel security is to have a 90-day fuel reserve.

We also need our own refining capability, including the ability to convert coal into oil, as well as the creation of a viable biofuel industry. There is no reason why we cannot be self-sufficient in fuel, except a lack of political will.


Very true. We could store unrefined oil in some small old oil fields, need to keep at least one refinery going and the 90 day buffer of refined fuel a good idea.

Coal to oil—the Germans did this, I believe, like they developed {shudder} margarine and {double shudder} ersatz coffee {yuck!}
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St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Bam wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 12:06pm:
St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 9:37am:
And much more renewable energy and electrification and upgrading of rail lines, urban, rural, interstate.

This would be policy for the longer term. The most immediate thing we can do to assure fuel security is to have a 90-day fuel reserve.

We also need our own refining capability, including the ability to convert coal into oil, as well as the creation of a viable biofuel industry. There is no reason why we cannot be self-sufficient in fuel, except a lack of political will.


Very true. We could store unrefined oil in some small old oil fields, need to keep at least one refinery going and the 90 day buffer of refined fuel a good idea.

Coal to oil—the Germans did this, I believe, like they developed {shudder} margarine and {double shudder} ersatz coffee {yuck!}


Coal to oil is out, Sovereign Risk Queensland!
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Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 7:41am:
It's as simple as this.....if our fuel lines in the Malacca Straights are cut off, we will be seeking overseas food and medical aid within the week.

Australia will come to a stand still.

It's quite surprising that we have no local back up fuel supply......sitting ducks.

If, however our leaders had have had the common sense to stay out of American initiated wars, we wouldn't have this worry.

The question is "Would Al Qaeda have the ability to do this"? Would ISIS have the ability to do this?

Interesting times ahead.



Our Collins subs will defeat any attempt by ISIS to cut our shipments of oil.

Do not worry.

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St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 5th, 2014 at 9:20am:
Armpit is partly right, unemployment has grown.


I'm referring to the economy, numbnuts...
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