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Reply #30 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:15am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:04am:
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 9:47am:
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 9:27am:
I think the selling of high quality protein into south east asia is one area where we can earn much needed foreign exchange.
certainly the rapidly growing middle classes in china will have an appetite for our meat, milk and fruit.

rather then sell our land to the Asians, its far more sensible to sell them the produce.

even gough wanted to "buy back the farm"

the green policies on farming are disastrous and are already resulting in many bankruptcies and many farmers leaving the land and the younger generation not willing to stay.

we need the greens (most of whom are urban intellectuals) to admit that the farmers are the true custodians of the land.

the greens never visit, the aborigines (and I have nothing against aborigines) live in rural communities and aren't looking after the issues that the landscape now requires.

so it is up to the farmers to

1  make the export dollars to spend on the urban dwellers (most of whom produce nothing in terms of export dollars)

2  look after and rehabilitate the land from previous bad farming practices.

the farmers and the miners are the only hope the urban dwellers have.
tell me what a city like Adelaide earns in terms of currency for the country?
such cities exist as service centres for their own communities and are (in a way) parasitic on the productive sectors .

so I urge the greens not to mess with the farmers and miners (which is about all they've done for the last 20 years)



Adelaide has an international airport and reaps the reward from it via foreign tourists.

Adelaide has culture in things like Womadelaide. More tourism dollars.

Wine Districts of the Clair, Barossa, and Maclaren. S.A biggest percentage of country's wine exports.

Excellent education Hub for foreign students.

Excellent Renewable Energy Sector, with a progressive Greens fed government would boom even further.

Sports that created more foreign tourism, like the tour down under.

Many on the right put the boot into Adelaide via staving it of fresh water, Adelaide has a lot to offer.



Im not putting the boot in. im asking if it earns enough export dollars to support the import requirements of a million people.  I suspect the answer is no, as it would be for every city in Australia.

only rural and regional Australia pay their way (and then some) . this is very unjust as they receive sub standard services in areas of health education and infrastructure.

the greens worsen this position considerably by making a difficult job more difficult with their "green tape". 

so even a simple thing like putting a new road across a creek to access a paddock now requires input from a bureaucrat. I note that they always approve such things once they have received their $$$ via some ridiculous 10 page form that needs to be filled out, late at night by some exhausted farmer.

enjoy your pine nut and eggplant salad greens, have a moccacino for me (or should that read "on me" ) Wink



Protecting the environment, protecting the land, and in so protecting Australians is not Green Tape.

Attacking Australians by degrading our natural assets and so reducing the quality of life, and health of the people results in higher cost of living pressures on all households.

The gnats should be strung up for the long term damage they are causing just so foreign multinationals can shite on everyone, their toxins. The gnats are a pack of gutless loonies pretending to serve a purpose outside of being the dags on the rear end of the libs.



If I offer to put on a buffet of vegan foods and Perrier mineral water and soy latee's , can I get a few green voters to come help me clear some lantana this weekend. Wink

By the way, you'd be amazed how many of the people who muster are vegetarian. you'd be amazed how much our animals love us.
heres one that follows me round trying to lick my Suzuki, also note that this paddock was solid lanatan when I bought it Wink



So you complain about environment protection laws (green tape to the hard right). You complain about them yet you have the consequences of lax environmental protection of the past via weeds like lantana.

You don't see the hypocrisy?

Next I suppose you will say you support GM weeds.

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Re: Australia on brink of landmark cattle deal..
Reply #31 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:15am
 
Kat wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:37am:
The live-animal trade must be STOPPED, not doubled.

Totally oppose.
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Unless you are vegan you have no say and need to shut TFU you vile little creature.

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Reply #32 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:18am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:12am:
A Billion $ deal is good news.



Unless the negotiations were not all so rosy and abbott sold off Australia's rear end.

What did abbott give up?

China can now buy all our agriculture?
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Reply #33 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:51am
 
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More Than 40% Of China's Arable Land Is Degraded


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/r-more-than-40-percent-of-chinas-arable-land-d...

China's over a barrel concerning food and we could have Australians employed in meat works yet unfortunately we have conservative politicians who hate creating jobs for Australians.

Conservatives hate value adding.


There is a huge new abattoir opened up north that will means less transport costs etc.

One track mind = dumb!!!

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Reply #34 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 11:01am
 
True Blue... wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:10am:
once again Congratulations to the Abbott Government..

while the Labor government did its best to destroy the cattle industry of Australia with a huge Legal Compensation to cost Tax Payers, the Abbott Government has secured this massive deal in just over 12 months of Government..

wow!! well done!!



so we'll be able to blame Abbott when a 200g piece of fillet ends up costing Australians $50 each?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #35 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 11:26am
 
ahh, another story where the 'facts' magically just write themselves


"The million head figure is inaccurate. That number's been plucked out of somewhere and who knows where it's from," he said

....

The million head has been pulled out of the air from somewhere and we need to put it into some context.

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Australia only passed one million head of live cattle exports for the first time this year, so producing another million head would be impossible in the short term.



"If the million head go to China they've got to be at the discount of other markets," Mr Warriner said.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25455903/china-cattle-deal-story-out-of-context-nt-c...

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Reply #36 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 11:33am
 
i.e the local market ... as john has already stated. Extreme local prices.


Look on the bright side, you can all eat cake.
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Reply #37 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 11:38am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:09am:
good point grapples,  pollies of all persuasions are only interested in votes and their simply aren't enough people on the land any more to be bothered with.  this will result in large multinationals achieving economies of scale with feedlots, GM crops to feed the feedlots and a foul landscape.
greens should be right behind aussie farmers instaed of that nasty rant from greens wins.  We (the family farmer) are much better for the landscape and for rural cohesion than these multi nationals will be .
I think the whole of rural austrlaia will be de populated multinational owned  wasteland eventually. how sad


Many good points right there... including the lack of good people on the land now and the corporatisation of everything in sight.  I have to wonder if a bunch of investors is less costly to run for the end consumer than a farmer family on its own.... I suspect the farmer family is cheaper by a country mile...

Just another dollar grab by those in the front seat of unearned cash.  When is enough enough for these vultures and when will they be giving something back?

My time here has moved me massively to the Left..... which is about as far removed from Labor as it is from  LNC (Liberal National Coalition).
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Reply #38 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 11:41am
 
Oh - and I saw that program on the devastation and terrible conditions for stock wrought in the US by many operators there under their massively corporatised and de facto licensed system of cattle, sheep and chook production.  De facto licensing since to get a contract to supply, the operator needs to abide by corporation rules - which are often of the nastiest variety for stock and environment.

Damn - and I copped a sting an hour ago from trying to get a bee outside.... silly buggar....
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Reply #39 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 11:53am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 9:27am:
I think the selling of high quality protein into south east asia is one area where we can earn much needed foreign exchange.
certainly the rapidly growing middle classes in china will have an appetite for our meat, milk and fruit.

rather then sell our land to the Asians, its far more sensible to sell them the produce.

even gough wanted to "buy back the farm"

the green policies on farming are disastrous and are already resulting in many bankruptcies and many farmers leaving the land and the younger generation not willing to stay.

we need the greens (most of whom are urban intellectuals) to admit that the farmers are the true custodians of the land.

the greens never visit, the aborigines (and I have nothing against aborigines) live in rural communities and aren't looking after the issues that the landscape now requires.

so it is up to the farmers to

1  make the export dollars to spend on the urban dwellers (most of whom produce nothing in terms of export dollars)

2  look after and rehabilitate the land from previous bad farming practices.

the farmers and the miners are the only hope the urban dwellers have.
tell me what a city like Adelaide earns in terms of currency for the country?
such cities exist as service centres for their own communities and are (in a way) parasitic on the productive sectors .

so I urge the greens not to mess with the farmers and miners (which is about all they've done for the last 20 years)


It's amazing how 'holistically' minded people are when their livelihood relies on something.

If you want to know how a climate/soil is, ask a farmer. They'll know.
The food on their table next year is dependant on them knowing.

If you want to know what's good for that area, ask a farmer.
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Reply #40 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 1:29pm
 
____ wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:51am:
More Than 40% Of China's Arable Land Is Degraded


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/r-more-than-40-percent-of-chinas-arable-land-d...

China's over a barrel concerning food and we could have Australians employed in meat works yet unfortunately we have conservative politicians who hate creating jobs for Australians.

Conservatives hate value adding.


the greens and labor had 8 long years to do something about it and failed to create one job without the use of a tax payer funded pretend job like putting in Pink Batts

they failed on every front internationally and were always cause for major embarrassment.. especially when the greens open that hole in their heads..  Embarrassed
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Reply #41 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 1:35pm
 
John Smith wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 11:01am:
True Blue... wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:10am:
once again Congratulations to the Abbott Government..

while the Labor government did its best to destroy the cattle industry of Australia with a huge Legal Compensation to cost Tax Payers, the Abbott Government has secured this massive deal in just over 12 months of Government..

wow!! well done!!



so we'll be able to blame Abbott when a 200g piece of fillet ends up costing Australians $50 each?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


you can always grow your own john.. get productive with your life instead of hanging around here 24/7 with the other drones of the forum..
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Reply #42 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 1:52pm
 
True Blue... wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 1:29pm:
____ wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:51am:
More Than 40% Of China's Arable Land Is Degraded


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/r-more-than-40-percent-of-chinas-arable-land-d...

China's over a barrel concerning food and we could have Australians employed in meat works yet unfortunately we have conservative politicians who hate creating jobs for Australians.

Conservatives hate value adding.


the greens and labor had 8 long years to do something about it and failed to create one job without the use of a tax payer funded pretend job like putting in Pink Batts

they failed on every front internationally and were always cause for major embarrassment.. especially when the greens open that hole in their heads..  Embarrassed



How many Greens were in this 8 year Green government you speak of?

Yet another poster off with the fairies?
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Reply #43 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 2:32pm
 
King FriYAY II wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 10:15am:
Kat wrote on Nov 7th, 2014 at 6:37am:
The live-animal trade must be STOPPED, not doubled.

Totally oppose.
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Unless you are vegan you have no say and need to shut TFU you vile little creature.

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Reply #44 - Nov 7th, 2014 at 2:52pm
 
I am not opposed to the live export trade per se, but I am violently opposed to live export to muslim countries, especially the middle east.

I trust the Chinese to deploy humane killing.
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