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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Australia on brink of landmark cattle deal.. Reply #45 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 3:30pm The Cattlemens Association has said that there is no way that they can supply that amount of live cattle. Lets remember that this isn't prime beef they are sending over but tough stringy rubbish that struggles to survive in our far north.
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Australia on brink of landmark cattle deal.. Reply #46 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 3:35pm bogarde73 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 2:52pm: I am not opposed to the live export trade per se, but I am violently opposed to live export to muslim countries, especially the middle east. I trust the Chinese to deploy humane killing. That last line is 100% wrong. Chinese have no regard for animals.
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Reply #47 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 3:40pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 3:35pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

I am not opposed to the live export trade per se, but I am violently opposed to live export to muslim countries, especially the middle east.

I trust the Chinese to deploy humane killing.

That last line is 100% wrong. Chinese have no regard for animals.

The Chinese govt has an appalling human and animal rights record..crikey they tortured and murdered over 2400 of their own people in the last 12 months for crimes such as political dissidence. And go to any food market anywhere in China if you want evidence of how badly they treat animals.

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Reply #48 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 3:53pm

True Blue... wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 1:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

True Blue... wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 6:10am:

once again Congratulations to the Abbott Government..

while the Labor government did its best to destroy the cattle industry of Australia with a huge Legal Compensation to cost Tax Payers, the Abbott Government has secured this massive deal in just over 12 months of Government..

wow!! well done!!

so we'll be able to blame Abbott when a 200g piece of fillet ends up costing Australians $50 each? Cheesy

you can always grow your own john.. get productive with your life instead of hanging around here 24/7 with the other drones of the forum..

no I can't ... friggen liberal council in my area won't let me Cheesy

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Reply #49 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:02pm

Very premature in the gloating folks ~ 'the ink is not dry ~ well that's what Joyce said later today trying to hose down the false expectation of early this morning. And.....we don't have a million units of cattle loitering around the place ready to leap on a ship to travel to non-existent Chinese receiving logistics.

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Reply #50 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:14pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

Very premature in the gloating folks ~ 'the ink is not dry ~ well that's what Joyce said later today trying to hose down the false expectation of early this morning. And.....we don't have a million units of cattle loitering around the place ready to leap on a ship to travel to non-existent Chinese receiving logistics.

Thats a million a year from our drought stricken north...yep..and all to open the floodgates for even more cheap and nasty Chinese rubbish to put the remaining aussie manufacturers out of business.

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DaS Energy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3962 Gender:	Re: Australia on brink of landmark cattle deal.. Reply #51 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:31pm Australia on brink of landmark cattle deal.. Australia on the brink of Free Trade Agreement with China.. Australia on the brink of having the LNP not lie to it.. Australia on the brink thanks to the LNP..
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Reply #52 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:10pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

Very premature in the gloating folks ~ 'the ink is not dry ~ well that's what Joyce said later today trying to hose down the false expectation of early this morning. And.....we don't have a million units of cattle loitering around the place ready to leap on a ship to travel to non-existent Chinese receiving logistics.

no one is gloating aussie but we are all excited after years of being the world joke in export terms due to Labors laziness and frequent habit of insulting our trading partners... Angry

look at all the lefties in this thread... its like they hate success and are trying to howl it down..

looking at labors 8 years in office they made sure that there was no success as they know that their supporters just hate it as much as they do...

spend up big, throw away money like drunken sailors and destroy business by banging stupid taxes on them like the "carbon tax"... and put Australia in massive debt..

then when their useless leaders die some years later they hail them as hero's... Roll Eyes

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Reply #53 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:22pm

True Blue... wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

Very premature in the gloating folks ~ 'the ink is not dry ~ well that's what Joyce said later today trying to hose down the false expectation of early this morning. And.....we don't have a million units of cattle loitering around the place ready to leap on a ship to travel to non-existent Chinese receiving logistics.

no one is gloating aussie but we are all excited after years of being the world joke in export terms due to Labors laziness and frequent habit of insulting our trading partners... Angry

look at all the lefties in this thread... its like they hate success and are trying to howl it down..

looking at labors 8 years in office they made sure that there was no success as they know that their supporters just hate it as much as they do...

spend up big, throw away money like drunken sailors and destroy business by banging stupid taxes on them like the "carbon tax"... and put Australia in massive debt..

then when their useless leaders die some years later they hail them as hero's... Roll Eyes

You don't put a deadline on a FTA when there is powerful constituencies with their own self interests influencing Chinese government, and you certainly don't line up a FTA with a deadline while publicly kissing Japans arse, in case you missed it , they don't get along very well of late. I would put my left nut on it this team of dimwits would've sold us out and given the Chinese the better end of the stick.

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Reply #54 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:52pm

Its time wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:22pm:

True Blue... wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 5:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

Very premature in the gloating folks ~ 'the ink is not dry ~ well that's what Joyce said later today trying to hose down the false expectation of early this morning. And.....we don't have a million units of cattle loitering around the place ready to leap on a ship to travel to non-existent Chinese receiving logistics.

no one is gloating aussie but we are all excited after years of being the world joke in export terms due to Labors laziness and frequent habit of insulting our trading partners... Angry

look at all the lefties in this thread... its like they hate success and are trying to howl it down..

looking at labors 8 years in office they made sure that there was no success as they know that their supporters just hate it as much as they do...

spend up big, throw away money like drunken sailors and destroy business by banging stupid taxes on them like the "carbon tax"... and put Australia in massive debt..

then when their useless leaders die some years later they hail them as hero's... Roll Eyes

You don't put a deadline on a FTA when there is powerful constituencies with their own self interests influencing Chinese government, and you certainly don't line up a FTA with a deadline while publicly kissing Japans arse, in case you missed it , they don't get along very well of late. I would put my left nut on it this team of dimwits would've sold us out and given the Chinese the better end of the stick.

All was going well until the Minister Greg Hunt stepped in and said the LNP don't care what the rules of Free Trade are you not bringing your green energy in Australia, you burn Coal like the rest of us.

China said well we don't want your coal, that we do buy will cost you a 6% tariff and you can shove your coal seam gas up your arse, we're buying Russian gas.

Now its LNP so wonderfully on the brink of Free Trade Agreement with Asia, millions of cattle to China, next week will be North Korea and so on, so on!

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Reply #55 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:28pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 3:35pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

I am not opposed to the live export trade per se, but I am violently opposed to live export to muslim countries, especially the middle east.

I trust the Chinese to deploy humane killing.

That last line is 100% wrong. Chinese have no regard for animals.

Yes they do! They treat them better than Tianenmen dissidents!! So there!!

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Australia on brink of landmark cattle deal.. Reply #56 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:31pm I dont trust the Chinese to be humane, whoever thinks that is in cloud cuckoo land. Never mind the extreme cruelty of the travel conditions. We need to ban this abhorrent live export trade completely, yesterday.
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Reply #57 - Nov 8^th, 2014 at 12:01am

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 3:35pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

I am not opposed to the live export trade per se, but I am violently opposed to live export to muslim countries, especially the middle east.

I trust the Chinese to deploy humane killing.

That last line is 100% wrong. Chinese have no regard for animals.

is that right?
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Reply #58 - Nov 8^th, 2014 at 12:02am

ian wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:31pm:

I dont trust the Chinese to be humane, whoever thinks that is in cloud cuckoo land. Never mind the extreme cruelty of the travel conditions. We need to ban this abhorrent live export trade completely, yesterday.

everyone is pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about.. durr

ian wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

im an asshole

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Reply #59 - Nov 8^th, 2014 at 12:23am

ian wrote on Nov 7^th, 2014 at 11:31pm:

I dont trust the Chinese to be humane, whoever thinks that is in cloud cuckoo land. Never mind the extreme cruelty of the travel conditions. We need to ban this abhorrent live export trade completely, yesterday.

I agree. If the animals were processed into beef (shudders at the thought though I love my steak - ah - the curious dichotomy that is Human) - here - it would be more humane than that terrible transportation for the term of their natural short life as arbitrarily decided by some gook - and at the least the economic activity would remain largely in this country.

You guys are pushing me to becoming a vegan.... we ordinary folk don't like to think about where our steak and lamb and pork comes from.... and I happen to love animals. If we had some fattening cattle in our back paddock - they would end up very old and very fat pets....

I should stop being a hypocrite.....

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