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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Nov 12^th, 2014 at 10:45am www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/ret-deal-off-the-only-certainty-i... RET deal off: The only certainty is uncertainty for the clean energy industry Liberal and Labor's Coal Donations to their parties are more important than the Renewable Energy Sector. Shame Olds, Shame.
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Reply #1 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 10:48am getting desperate Greeny! Labor will not discuss reducing the RET. Probably the Greens will, in exchange for some meaningless compromise by the Libs.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Reply #2 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:07am Labor and Liberal are working on a deal to stitch up the renewable sector in secret. Both are the pawns of the Coal Lobby via donations to both parties. Which will jump higher?
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Reply #3 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:10am You are going crazy! You know it will be the Greens supporting a reduction in the RET.
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Reply #4 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:15am

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

You are going crazy!

You know it will be the Greens supporting a reduction in the RET.

Yet its Labor and Liberal negotiating the downfall of the RET. It is Liberal and Labor that are the pawns of the coal lobby via party donations.

Try again, and this time base it on fact.

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DaS Energy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3962 Gender:	Re: Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Reply #5 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:15am ____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:07am: Labor and Liberal are working on a deal to stitch up the renewable sector in secret. Both are the pawns of the Coal Lobby via donations to both parties. Which will jump higher? Will The Greens require a further $30 Million voter cash unaccounted for to agree with them?
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Reply #6 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:21am Labor will not countenance the RET being reduced. end of story. Bet the Greens will come riding to Tony’s defence again tho.
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Reply #7 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:25am

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Labor will not countenance the RET being reduced. end of story.

Bet the Greens will come riding to Tony’s defence again tho.

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Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said Labor offered a slight reduction in renewable energy output, but not as much as the Government wanted.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-12/negotiations-between-labor-and-coalition-o...

Labor and Liberal want to attack RET so to appease their coal lobby puppet master.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Reply #8 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:29am A slight reduction. You know, give and take in negotiation. Greens should learn the art of negotiation!
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Reply #9 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:32am

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

A slight reduction. You know, give and take in negotiation. Greens should learn the art of negotiation!

You said Labor wouldn't reduce the RET.

A slight reduce according to leaks from the Labor Party is 30% cuts while the Libs want 40%.

Shame both old parties. The RET should be lifted, not attacked for personal party advantage via coal donations.

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Reply #10 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:34am

____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:25am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Labor will not countenance the RET being reduced. end of story.

Bet the Greens will come riding to Tony’s defence again tho.

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Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said Labor offered a slight reduction in renewable energy output, but not as much as the Government wanted.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-12/negotiations-between-labor-and-coalition-o...

Labor and Liberal want to attack RET so to appease their coal lobby puppet master.

The Greens want another $30 Million of unaccounted for voter cash to give their support for greater Carbon Emissions.

It was no no Gillard untill the cash changed hands never to be heard of again!

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Reply #11 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:35am 30% is not a slight reduction—you are spouting lies there. The Greens will help Tony, never fear.
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Reply #12 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:39am

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

30% is not a slight reduction—you are spouting lies there.

The Greens will help Tony, never fear.

30% is to Lib Lab Puppet Masters.
As for spouting lies, you claimed Labor would not attack the RET, and now you have backtracked on your previous position. You are in no position to call others liars considering you don't understand Labor hates Renewable Energy as much as labor hates real action on AGW.

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Reply #13 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:45am

____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

Labor and Liberal are working on a deal to stitch up the renewable sector in secret.

Both are the pawns of the Coal Lobby via donations to both parties. Which will jump higher?

If it is secret how do you know about it.....Just another hysterical fear campaign the Greens are known for.....Labor will not support a reduction in the RET full stop.....Your assumptions about secret negotiations have no founding in reality and show once again how dishonest you are unless you can back up your bullshit!!!

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Abbott/Shorten Undermine RET Again Reply #14 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:48am As Labor found out with the GST, blanket opposition means you have no say in the final legislation. I am serious tho in predicting the Greens will do a deal, getting some minor compromise that will never appear in reality.
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