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DaS Energy wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 5:18pm: ____ wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 5:15pm: DaS Energy wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 5:12pm: ____ wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 5:07pm: DaS Energy wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 4:57pm: ____ wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 4:49pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 4:37pm: ____ wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 1:14pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 1:08pm: ____ wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 1:02pm: philperth2010 wrote on Nov 12 th, 2014 at 12:31pm: Quote:You stated that Labor didn't support a reduction in RET. Have you backtracked from that position?
As for negotiation, what was labor's position at the negotiations. As for negotiations breaking down, this is just theatrics since it is in the interest of both olds to attack RET since the size of coal donations hinge on it.
Both old parties hate Renewable Energy and both old parties oppose Australia having a real agenda on action on reducing human caused climate change.
And on a side note to any labor voters at the last election reading this, did you support labor so labor could attack renewable energy? Not at all.....Can you show me where Labor have claimed they will reduce the RET since this is your claim.....You also claimed the ALP where in secret negotiations with the Coalition but have refused to back it up.....Is this how the Greens conduct debates.....No wonder nobody trusts them!!!  Post 7. Bill Shorten stated Labor is out to shrink the RET. So have you backtracked? And it was/will be in secret otherwise everyone would know the percentage Labor is out to attack the renewable energy target by. This alleged 30% from Labor sources, can you refute this with fact? Would prefer facts over Labor sources. Where did Bill Shorten state Labor is out to shrink the RET??? Provide the link to these alleged Labor sources who made this claim so I can see it in context....Over to you!!! Quote:Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said Labor offered a slight reduction in renewable energy output, but not as much as the Government wanted. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-12/negotiations-between-labor-and-coalition-o...You said Quote:Labor will not support a reduction in the RET full stop Post 13. Have you backtracked from your original position on this thread? I stand by my comments....Labor have walked away from negotiations meaning they will not support any reduction in the RET full stop.....Of course this could change if there where secret negotiations going on as you claim but you have provided nothing to support this so I presume you where mistaken.....Labor tried to salvage the RET the Greens have once again shown it is all or nothing which makes negotiating with them a complete waste of time.....Either way the only way Abbott will change the RET is to deal with PUP.....Unless of course you can provide proof of the secret negotiations.....Still waiting??? Quote:Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said Labor offered a slight reduction in renewable energy output, but not as much as the Government wanted.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-12/negotiations-between-labor-and-coalition-o...Why was Labor trying to water down RET. Without Labor, the Coalition can't get changes through the Senate. Labor why trying to do a dirty deal against RE interests and you still deny this. Is it that hard to admit you were wrong? And Yes Greens will not deal with Labor and the Coalition to destroy the current RET, and I don't understand why you expect them to. Note the carefully chosen word destroy, not dilute, tone done, reduce, but destroy. verb: destroy; end the existence of. Diluting equates to renewable energy projects being scraped or moved overseas, renewable energy companies going broke, renewable workers losing their jobs. If this isn't destruction, what is it? verb: destroy; end the existence of. See Queens English Oxford. And that is the ultimate aim of Lib Lab wanting to dilute RET. I stand by my choice of words. So why are the Greens negotiating the cash price they will accept for that destruction to occur! Greens don't negotiate. It's our way or the highway. Just ask Phil.
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