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Nov 14th, 2014 at 8:28am
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/wa-remote-closur...

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WARREN Mundine has accused the West Australian government of “infrastructure apartheid” by threatening Aboriginal people and treating them differently to white communities. 
 
The plan to slowly shut more than half the remote communities in the state has also drawn an ­impassioned response from the Bishop of ­Broome, Christopher Saunders, whose diocese takes in more than 100 Kimberley communities.

West Australian Premier Colin Barnett has admitted his government would be forced to close up to 150 of the state’s remote Aboriginal homelands after accepting a one-off $90 million payment from the Abbott government to take over responsibility for municipal and essential services.

The South Australian government has warned that it too would have to shut communities if it was offered an inadequate funding deal by the federal government.

Bishop Saunders has accused federal and state governments of “turning their backs on the needs of our nation’s first Aust­ralians and … promising a new dispossess­ion that can only result in further injustices and gross sufferin­g”.

Mr Mundine, the head of the Prime Minister’s Indigenous Advis­ory Council, met federal Indig­enous ­Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion about the issue and concluded that the Barnett government was using a funding stoush with the federal government to renege on its obligations to fund services for all its citizens, regardless of colour.

“They should be providing ­municipal services for all people in their state,’’ he said.

“How can it be that everyone in the state except Aboriginals get the funding, that’s where my anger is. It’s almost like an infrastructure apartheid system.


The Federal Court ruled on Mabo and Wik that Aboriginal people could only exercise there claim for native title if they maintain a connection to their land.....This is why Aboriginal people have remained in remote communities or risk losing any right to country they have lived on for centuries.....This is obviously a move by the Federal and State Governments to remove Aboriginal people from their ancestral lands and claim them for the State by stealth.....What a transparent act of bastardy from this Government who could not get the land any other way so they will steal it from the Aboriginal people!!!

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Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2014 at 9:17am
 

There's nothing out there.

Abbos have been there for decades on our taxes, doing themselves no good.
Alcoholism, petrol sniffing, sex crimes, suicides, low life expectancy ............


Close them down, it's not up to us to indefinitely financially support their appallingly bad life decisions.
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Reply #2 - Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:03am
 
Mabo only offers 'traditional ownership' not ownership as such.  All that means is that negotiations may be undertaken to obtain use of land...

It doesn't mean that the land is totally owned by the Aboriginals who live there - they just have a sort of right to pass over it, and negotiate over issues that affect the land.
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Reply #3 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 10:48am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:03am:
Mabo only offers 'traditional ownership' not ownership as such.  All that means is that negotiations may be undertaken to obtain use of land...

It doesn't mean that the land is totally owned by the Aboriginals who live there - they just have a sort of right to pass over it, and negotiate over issues that affect the land.


My guess is the Government will move Aboriginal people off land with mineral rich deposits and land earmarked for development.....Nuclear waste dumps in the North will now be possible and the gas hub at James Price Point will now go ahead with compulsory acquisition.....The Aboriginal people have been shafted by the Abbott Government.....So much for the Prime Minister of indigenous affairs caring about the Aboriginal people.....This is a blatant land grab that Abbott is forcing on the States to once again avoid taking responsibility for his own decisions!!!

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Reply #4 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 10:54am
 
$90 million dollars for the WA Coalition Government to close down remote Aboriginal Communities and only $10 million for the SA Labor Government to deal with the backlash and problems this policy will cause.....Seeing police and possibly the army forcibly removing Aboriginal people from their lands will not go down well for the Government.....Abbott knows it is better to let the States take the blame than taking responsibility himself.....Aboriginal people have been lied to by this Prime Minister who says one thing and does another.....Aboriginal people should be ashamed to be seen supporting Tony Abbott!!!

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Reply #5 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 10:56am
 
Pretty crap behavior from a really crap govt!
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Reply #6 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:03am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2014 at 8:28am:
The Federal Court ruled on Mabo and Wik that Aboriginal people could only exercise there claim for native title if they maintain a connection to their land.....This is why Aboriginal people have remained in remote communities or risk losing any right to country they have lived on for centuries.....This is obviously a move by the Federal and State Governments to remove Aboriginal people from their ancestral lands and claim them for the State by stealth.....What a transparent act of bastardy from this Government who could not get the land any other way so they will steal it from the Aboriginal people!!!

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This is exactly what the government wants. Not only will they save money, but it will force indigenous people out of remote communities and leave the land free and clear for the big mining companies. 

The Chinese have probably already done their metallurgical testing and will be ready to move their workers and equipment in as soon as the FTA has been signed.
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Reply #7 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am
 
well now all you lefties can allow the Abos to go and live as they once did as true tribal people living off the land.  no support from outside.  wouldn't thet be wonderful?  the Noble Savage showing us how resilient they are?

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Reply #8 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:24am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am:
well now all you lefties can allow the Abos to go and live as they once did as true tribal people living off the land.  no support from outside.  wouldn't thet be wonderful?  the Noble Savage showing us how resilient they are?




Isn't that what they want??

Always blaming us for destroying their way of life?

Not to mention totally destroying the Stick research facility.
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Reply #9 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:30am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am:
well now all you lefties can allow the Abos to go and live as they once did as true tribal people living off the land.  no support from outside.  wouldn't thet be wonderful?  the Noble Savage showing us how resilient they are?



The high court ruled Aboriginal people must maintain a link to the land to establish native title.....The Government could not win against the High Court so it has now decided to take the land by force under the pretext this is what is best for the Aboriginal people.....Tony Abbott was not up front about his true intentions to force Aboriginal people off their lands and has once again shown he cannot be trusted.....Native title is a right afforded to indigenous people across the world and this Government is seeking to extinguish this right by bastardy not negotiation which is what Abbott promised he would do when he lied his way into office!!!

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Reply #10 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:30am
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:24am:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am:
well now all you lefties can allow the Abos to go and live as they once did as true tribal people living off the land.  no support from outside.  wouldn't thet be wonderful?  the Noble Savage showing us how resilient they are?




Isn't that what they want??

Always blaming us for destroying their way of life?

Not to mention totally destroying the Stick research facility.


There is no solution to the aboriginal problem.  That is because the ONLY thing that can fix it is the one thing that cannot happen.  they need to get of their drunken bums and work.  and go to school. and stop fighting, drinking and raping.  There are quite a number of high achieving aborginals.  funnily enough, every single one of them lived in white communities or with white families.  the aboriginal culture is one of failure and violence.
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Reply #11 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:33am
 
Dunno about “no solution.” The NT had a “do not serve alcohol register” that was effective until the new NT CLP govt did away with it. Plenty of ways to improve school attendance have been found.

No, I think they just want to extinguish native title.
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Reply #12 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:35am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am:
well now all you lefties can allow the Abos to go and live as they once did as true tribal people living off the land.  no support from outside.  wouldn't thet be wonderful?  the Noble Savage showing us how resilient they are?



I think you have summed up the true contempt and lack of respect the right have for Aboriginal people and any rights they may have.....How typically Christian of you and Tony Abbott to treat Aboriginal people as lesser citizens than other Australian's.....No other people would be forced off their land without compensation accept for the Abo's!!!

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Reply #13 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:39am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am:
well now all you lefties can allow the Abos to go and live as they once did as true tribal people living off the land.  no support from outside.  wouldn't thet be wonderful?  the Noble Savage showing us how resilient they are?



I think you have summed up the true contempt and lack of respect the right have for Aboriginal people and any rights they may have.....How typically Christian of you and Tony Abbott to treat Aboriginal people as lesser citizens than other Australian's.....No other people would be forced off their land without compensation accept for the Abo's!!!

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I respect them enough that they can go earn a living like everyone else
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Reply #14 - Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:41am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:35am:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15th, 2014 at 11:19am:
well now all you lefties can allow the Abos to go and live as they once did as true tribal people living off the land.  no support from outside.  wouldn't thet be wonderful?  the Noble Savage showing us how resilient they are?



I think you have summed up the true contempt and lack of respect the right have for Aboriginal people and any rights they may have.....How typically Christian of you and Tony Abbott to treat Aboriginal people as lesser citizens than other Australian's.....No other people would be forced off their land without compensation accept for the Abo's!!!

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you miss the point.  like so many other people I have had a gutful of nothing ever working.  no changes, no amount of money, no projects and no rights has ever changed a damned thing.  aboriginals remain backward and horribly dysfunctional - just as they have been for 40,000 years.  you think they were so 'noble' for those 40,000 years?  so happy and so settled that they invented a stick in all that time and nothing else?  Take a look at the list of successful and note-worthy aboriginals.  you wont find a single one that didn't leave aboriginal culture and live with and embrace western culture.  their culture is toxic and dangerous. 

they wont even go to school.  just how hard is that?
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