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salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: Conservatives have roo loose in top paddock Reply #15 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 9:10am John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 8:05am: only a fool would try to counter the result of multiple studies with an opinion piece, and think it was sufficient You want more right wing opinions about progressives/left wingers? How many do you want?
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Reply #16 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 9:15am

Yes, please inform the debate Saladin.

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Why middle-class Lefties believe stupid things – because their friends do

A new study of middle-aged Lefties may finally clear up one of life’s great mysteries – why are intelligent people more likely to believe idiotic things? As the Telegraph reports, “champagne socialists” are actually more conservative than they think:

The study suggests that some people vote for left-of-centre parties “by mistake”, in ignorance of their actual political interests and sympathies.

James Rockey, a lecturer in political economics at the University of Leicester who carried out the research, also found that well-educated people are most susceptible to misunderstanding their true position within the political spectrum.

Etc.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100047245/why-middle-class-lefties-beli...

The article suggests that left leaners can't even think for themselves; a herd mentality is their driving force.

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Reply #17 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 9:21am

Is there more Mr Saladin? Yes there is.

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Over the years I have listened to the Left Wingers in this country say some really outrageous things. Below are quotes from some of the nuttiest.

40) Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security. -- Obama foreign policy adviser Richard Danzig

39) I propose a limitation be put on how many sqares [sic] of toilet paper can be used in any one sitting. Now, I don't want to rob any law-abiding American of his or her God-given rights, but I think we are an industrious enough people that we can make it work with only one square per restroom visit, except, of course, on those pesky occasions where 2 to 3 could be required. -- Sheryl Crow

38) In a situation like this, of course you identify with everyone who's suffering. [But we must also think about] the terrorists who are creating such horrible future lives for themselves because of the negativity of this karma. It's all of our jobs to keep our minds as expansive as possible. If you can see [the terrorists] as a relative who's dangerously sick and we have to give them medicine, and the medicine is love and compassion. There's nothing better. -- Richard Gere

37) George Bush doesn't care about black people...They're giving the Army permission to go down and shoot us. -- Kayne West on the rescue efforts in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/01/15/823172/-LEFT-WING-IDIOTS#

Winnie The Pooh remains as popular as ever.

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salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: Conservatives have roo loose in top paddock Reply #18 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 9:22am Ease up there Saladin. I think I detect some tears starting to flow.
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Conservatives have roo loose in top paddock Reply #19 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 9:49am Tears of laughter, that you believe such crap. Rightwhingers here get all their opinions from the DT!!!!!
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Conservatives have roo loose in top paddock Reply #20 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 10:02am St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 9:49am: Tears of laughter, that you believe such crap. Rightwhingers here get all their opinions from the DT!!!!! And piers who gets owned the second he opens his mouth, and bolt and jones the resident loonies.
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Garfield. Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 391 Gender:	Re: Conservatives have roo loose in top paddock Reply #21 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 10:41am St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 7:52am: Progressives want to overturn outdated laws, practices etc. Monarchy, laws favoring vested interests, actions that harm the environment and so on. . And don't forget introduce sharia law.
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Reply #22 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 11:12am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 12:52am:

These "studies" are littered with the morality (hence prejudice) of the authors. (Some of the studies in the link actually find similar numbers of stupid people in both camps). The problem with these "studies" is that there is a tendency to conflate certain moral positions with abstract reasoning. They are not the same thing, and neither does being able to think abstractly automatically lead to the moral positions the authors favour.

I commented before on a "study" that was posted here several times and it had the same problem - the authors had already decided in advance what moral positions were superior. They then worked backwards from this point in order to justify their stance.

Sounds like that also applies to the learned prof from Leister above.... who has worked out in classical social science fashion that left-leaners are sheep... right .. left.. who cares - both are fixated in often unfounded ideas and need to work out how the world works.

Here is the4 quote from slad in' post:-

"Why middle-class Lefties believe stupid things – because their friends do

A new study of middle-aged Lefties may finally clear up one of life’s great mysteries – why are intelligent people more likely to believe idiotic things? As the Telegraph reports, “champagne socialists” are actually more conservative than they think:

The study suggests that some people vote for left-of-centre parties “by mistake”, in ignorance of their actual political interests and sympathies.

James Rockey, a lecturer in political economics at the University of Leicester who carried out the research, also found that well-educated people are most susceptible to misunderstanding their true position within the political spectrum."

Hey, Rockey...

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Reply #23 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 11:17am

salad in wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 9:10am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 8:05am:

only a fool would try to counter the result of multiple studies with an opinion piece, and think it was sufficient Cheesy

You want more right wing opinions about progressives/left wingers? How many do you want?

I don't want any opinions, especially from those that studies have found to be mentally challenged Grin

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Reply #24 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 3:19pm

Bam wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 7:59am:

Oo! Scare quotes!

Did you read the links? Or did you post this garbage without bothering?

Indeed I did read them. Did you? If so, you'd see my point. Or is it you don't understand my point? Most probably.

Explain to me how engaging in abstract reasoning leads directly to the moral positions they espouse.

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Yes, the climate change deniers have a lot of dubious methodologies. I hope you are adept at spotting them.

I don't care much for the climate change issue. I don't recall seeing this mentioned in the links either.

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Reply #25 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 3:34pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 11:17am:

salad in wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 9:10am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 8:05am:

only a fool would try to counter the result of multiple studies with an opinion piece, and think it was sufficient Cheesy

You want more right wing opinions about progressives/left wingers? How many do you want?

I don't want any opinions, especially from those that studies have found to be mentally challenged Grin

Studies..... .. in total scientific social scientist style....

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Conservatives have roo loose in top paddock Reply #26 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 3:53pm did you miss the OP grappler?
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59264 Here Gender:	Re: Conservatives have roo loose in top paddock Reply #27 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 4:20pm Why do they have studies about things most people just understand as basic common sense?
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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10266 Gender:	Re: Conservatives have roo loose in top paddock Reply #28 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 4:27pm Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 4:20pm: Why do they have studies about things most people just understand as basic common sense? Care to debate the arguments in the links? Your lefty buddies have chickened out. Cowards.
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Reply #29 - Nov 16^th, 2014 at 4:31pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 4:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 4:20pm:

Why do they have studies about things most people just understand as basic common sense?

Care to debate the arguments in the links? Your lefty buddies have chickened out. Cowards.

Not sure anyone chickened out, they probably just decided you weren't worth the bother.

Afterall, You didn't really write anything worth debating, apart from a few assumptions on your part and mention of something you said once upon a time ... thats hardly debating the arguments in the study now is it?

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