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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #30 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:28am

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:06am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 10:59am:

But vladmire putin

Ahh the Putin deflection

Hows that going?

Lets see

Shirt Front to Robust Discussion to, well........ nothing.

Onya Tone Grin

What are saying here, you just like sneer like some other stupid leftie because Tony abbott as the australian PM speaks for the 38 australian who lost there lives in the Ukraine.

Yet relatives of victims specifically told POLITICIANS to stay away from the remembrance memorial.

Something about Grandstanding

If Tony was speaking for them you'd think he'd be welcome.

But it seems those grieving relatives can see more clearly than you.

Hang on here, are you saying or implying tony abbott as PM shouldnt speak on behalf to gain any kind of justice, because all i see from you is just plainly anti abbott stupidity and going against common sense

Would have been nice to get Putin to heavy the separatists to let the crash site be properly inspected. That is all we can really ask for at this stage.

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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #31 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:28am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:09am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 10:59am:

But vladmire putin

Ahh the Putin deflection

Hows that going?

Lets see

Shirt Front to Robust Discussion to, well........ nothing.

Onya Tone Grin

I think you read IA instead of other media. Abbot personally told Putin to apologise and pay compensation. not by email or phone but to HIS FACE.

tell me of another aussie PM with those balls.

oh and btw are you even aware that the G20 has only just begun????

& he even stuffed that up by saying the US apologized & paid compensation to the Iranians which they didn't

And I don't read IA, I simply can remember what was said & happened more than 6 minutes ago.

But if all you got to defend your man is slurs, then you ain't got nothing do you?

In February 1996, the United States agreed to pay Iran US$131.8 million in settlement to discontinue a case brought by Iran in 1989 against the U.S. in the International Court of Justice relating to this incident,[34] together with other earlier claims before the Iran-United States Claims Tribunal.[15] US$61.8 million of the claim was in compensation for the 248 Iranians killed in the shoot-down: $300,000 per wage-earning victim and $150,000 per non-wage-earner. In total, 290 civilians on board were killed, 38 being non-Iranians and 66 being children. It was not disclosed how the remaining $70 million of the settlement was apportioned, though it appears a close approximation of the value of a used wikipedia

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing Reply #32 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:29am So the yanks had to be forced into paying compensation. There was no apology.
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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #33 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:31am

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

So the yanks had to be forced into paying compensation. There was no apology.

The fact was dsmithy was partly incorrect.

and vladmire putin hasnt paid a cent and continues to thumb his nose at us, given that the rocket is said to be supplied by the russian military he orders around.

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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #34 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:33am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:25am:

so in short... you are saying that he DID confront Putin, unlike your previous statement?

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:25am:

Abbott has guts and character, the likes of which we have not seen in a long time.

No his all piss & wind

Discussions went on behind closed doors & we can only go on what Mr Abbott's team say, sorry if I take their statement with a massive block of salt.

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:25am:

and for goodness sake, can you not just once say that Abbott has done something good and right?

Well when he actually does something good or right I'll be front & centre

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:25am:

who else among world leaders has got the balls to confront this dangerous dictator?

You've fallen for the spin.

I'm no fan of Putin but the Ukraine & Baltic region are very complicated issues.
One might be wrong footed in supporting 1 side over the other, much like the US & other were backing ISIL over Assad 12 months ago.

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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #35 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:35am

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:06am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:01am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 10:59am:

But vladmire putin

Ahh the Putin deflection

Hows that going?

Lets see

Shirt Front to Robust Discussion to, well........ nothing.

Onya Tone Grin

What are saying here, you just like sneer like some other stupid leftie because Tony abbott as the australian PM speaks for the 38 australian who lost there lives in the Ukraine.

Yet relatives of victims specifically told POLITICIANS to stay away from the remembrance memorial.

Something about Grandstanding

If Tony was speaking for them you'd think he'd be welcome.

But it seems those grieving relatives can see more clearly than you.

Hang on here, are you saying or implying tony abbott as PM shouldnt speak on behalf to gain any kind of justice, because all i see from you is just plainly anti abbott stupidity and going against common sense

Would have been nice to get Putin to heavy the separatists to let the crash site be properly inspected. That is all we can really ask for at this stage.

bit late don't you think????? and why did he not since Russia is a mere 30kms from the site??? because he knows what will be found. damn, you are a stupid person. There could be video of the missile being launched and recordings of radio communications discussing it and you would still deny it. and guess what.... there ARE radio communications recordings!

idiot.

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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #36 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:40am

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

So the yanks had to be forced into paying compensation. There was no apology.

The fact was dsmithy was partly incorrect.

and vladmire putin hasnt paid a cent and continues to thumb his nose at us, given that the rocket is said to be supplied by the russian military he orders around.

So me being PARTLY INCORRECT (never mind Tony implied the USA willing paid & apologized) somehow validates your totally incorrect argument?

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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #37 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:42am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:40am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

So the yanks had to be forced into paying compensation. There was no apology.

The fact was dsmithy was partly incorrect.

and vladmire putin hasnt paid a cent and continues to thumb his nose at us, given that the rocket is said to be supplied by the russian military he orders around.

So me being PARTLY INCORRECT (never mind Tony implied the USA willing paid & apologized) somehow validates your totally incorrect argument?

Oh yes,

and you were fragrantly wrong on one of those facts, YOU PUT IT THERE, NOT ME, you were wrong, werent you ?, you wanna continue ???

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing Reply #38 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:42am Would have been nice if monkey had backed up the Dutch govt who did most of the actual negotiations. Him screeching here achieved nothing. Quiet negotiators like the Dutch and Malaysian govts have my respect, not monkey!
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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #39 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:43am

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:42am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:40am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

So the yanks had to be forced into paying compensation. There was no apology.

The fact was dsmithy was partly incorrect.

and vladmire putin hasnt paid a cent and continues to thumb his nose at us, given that the rocket is said to be supplied by the russian military he orders around.

So me being PARTLY INCORRECT (never mind Tony implied the USA willing paid & apologized) somehow validates your totally incorrect argument?

Oh yes,

and you were fragrantly wrong on one of those facts, werent you, you wanna continue ???

Sure whats your next deflection?

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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #40 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:45am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:40am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

So the yanks had to be forced into paying compensation. There was no apology.

The fact was dsmithy was partly incorrect.

and vladmire putin hasnt paid a cent and continues to thumb his nose at us, given that the rocket is said to be supplied by the russian military he orders around.

So me being PARTLY INCORRECT (never mind Tony implied the USA willing paid & apologized) somehow validates your totally incorrect argument?

the point was that despite being intelligent and more than a cut above the average loser on here you too said ABbott DIDNT confront Putin even after it was literally front-page news this week. my argument is that the man has got courage and commitment and deserves applause for it even from other political supporters. Not real hard to do. but you chose to choose to say it 'didn't happen'.

and the USA compensation issue is irrelevant

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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #41 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:46am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:43am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:42am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:40am:

stryder wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

So the yanks had to be forced into paying compensation. There was no apology.

The fact was dsmithy was partly incorrect.

and vladmire putin hasnt paid a cent and continues to thumb his nose at us, given that the rocket is said to be supplied by the russian military he orders around.

So me being PARTLY INCORRECT (never mind Tony implied the USA willing paid & apologized) somehow validates your totally incorrect argument?

Oh yes,

and you were fragrantly wrong on one of those facts, werent you, you wanna continue ???

Sure whats your next deflection?

Good to see you dont deny you had posted a piece of untruth about Iran Air Flight 655 which was laced with your usual opinionated garbage

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Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing
Reply #42 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:47am

St George of the Garden wrote on Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:42am:

Would have been nice if monkey had backed up the Dutch govt who did most of the actual negotiations. Him screeching here achieved nothing.

Quiet negotiators like the Dutch and Malaysian govts have my respect, not monkey!

wow... very impressive. yet again you scored a 100% WRONG score!!!

Please give us your predictions for the footy next year so we can bet against you. We could all make a fortune!

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing Reply #43 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:48am Beautiful strategy, let Tony do all the talking, it's a given he will say the wrong thing and slide even further in popularity . Roll on 2016.
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Shorten strategy of saying nothing Reply #44 - Nov 15^th, 2014 at 11:48am “Confront?” It wasn’t really a confrontation, Putin gave monkey 10 minutes. The compensation issue is directly relevant if monkey actually asked for compensation.
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