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Re: Record Numbers Turning To Socialism
Reply #75 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 3:03pm

Panther wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

capitalism works great when socialism acts prevents it from failing

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It's exactly the other way around Johno, except the Socialists never show enough restraint,
& unfortunately always overextend their credit, continually taxing & borrowing, to a point that even
the best Capitalists can barely save their 'drunken sailor' like spendthrift asses.

Ever hear of a place called ................ EUROPE??

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http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/yes.gif

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dont tell him where that money they throw at everything comes from....lets see $40m for a football game??

In December 2008, Federal minister for sport Kate Ellis announced that the federal government would give Football Federation Australia $45.6 million[30] to fund its World Cup bid preparation

WAWWW we didnt win...

dont forget they also praise NORWAY as the country of choice.. you know the one "filthy rich "selling nasty oil that is killing the planet... Grin

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it makes sense to a lot of labs..

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Reply #76 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 4:42pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 2:18pm:

ian wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 12:41pm:

still waiting, 1 prosperous socialist country. Just 1.

Did it occur to you to actually do some reading on the subject. It's clear that you have this notion of socialism that doesn't come from any kind of study or even any time spent on reflection but more about what you've heard others say and assumed to be true without any critical thinking. Here, lets test it. Did you watch the interview???? It was only a 12 minute interview but I'm guessing that if you'd watched it, it would have amounted to about as much time as you have spent critically examining that subject over your whole life time up until this point in time. And that's what makes it so hard trying to have an intelligent discussion with you on the subject. OK lets take your question "Name 1 prosperous socialist country?" My answer, China. In 40/50 years that country went from a peasant rural subsistence economy to the worlds most successful industrialized nation on earth, with an economy tipped to soon edge out the US for first place. And how was it built. A planned government run economy. Indeed, we humans know that things that are planned always (and I mean always) work better and more efficiently then things that are unplanned and random (am I going too fast for you sparky). China's political system is totalitarian/oligarchic; run by a few and inevitably for the benefit for the few. That's why its political system of government is not acceptable to me. But its economic system, the socialist system that grew that economy from nothing was socialist. The Russians did the same from 1917 to the 1970s, the japanese did the same from 1850s to the 1900s and to a lesser extent india with its mixed economy and Australia and the UK with government run and owned instrumentalists (but since privatised) that made their respective countries prosperous and worked far better for the community then they ever have since privatisation. I don't want socialism without a direct democracy but all the evidence strongly points in the direction that the combo of the 2 is far better at delivering prosperity to all the creators of wealth in the community and not just the few benefited by the corporate totalitarianism system thats running the world today.

Never been to China then? Thought so, its a 3rd world spewthole you birdbrain, like the rest of these countries you mention, you naive little twerp.

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Reply #77 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 5:18pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

Of course, Thatcher and Co were the ultimate socialists - the were more than happy for the public purse to pay for their upkeep in every way.. but of course that's a different story....

**coughs** that's an Entitlement! And obviously well-earned, unlike Jeb The Coal Miner who spent his days underground in filth and water busting a gut.... leaning bastard that he was....

what a stupid statement. what were they supposed to do... work for free????

dumb as...

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #78 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 5:25pm

Nobody else gets salary at max rate plus full keep.... and then pontificates about how someone else is getting a small snippet to survive on from the same till.....

The point is they are the ultimate socialists and happy to accept from the same till.. if not let them work it as a private enterprise offering advice to government.

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Reply #79 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 5:33pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 5:25pm:

Nobody else gets salary at max rate plus full keep.... and then pontificates about how someone else is getting a small snippet to survive on from the same till.....

The point is they are the ultimate socialists and happy to accept from the same till.. if not let them work it as a private enterprise offering advice to government.

Dumb as...

This is an interesting argument, Maggie has snuck into the socialist system as a double agent hell bent on destroying it from the inside out. Grin

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Reply #80 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 5:33pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 5:25pm:

Nobody else gets salary at max rate plus full keep.... and then pontificates about how someone else is getting a small snippet to survive on from the same till.....

The point is they are the ultimate socialists and happy to accept from the same till.. if not let them work it as a private enterprise offering advice to government.

Dumb as...

you usually come up with stupid crap and this is dumber than usual. referring to thatcher as a socialist is like referring to the Pope as an atheist - which I am sure you will at some stage do.

perhaps you should investigate the meaning of the term 'socialist' and you may find that taking a govt salary is not the definition.

dope.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #82 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:10pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

You simply miss the point - as usual.

All right then - Thatcher was the ultimate Fascist - more so than Adolph Hitler... and a rapist of her own industries and people for her own benefit.... and all out of the public purse like any true socio-fascist....

you aren't making a coherent 'point'. IN fact, you rarely do. this time is no different.

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Reply #83 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:15pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

You simply miss the point - as usual.

All right then - Thatcher was the ultimate Fascist - more so than Adolph Hitler... and a rapist of her own industries and people for her own benefit.... and all out of the public purse like any true socio-fascist....

you aren't making a coherent 'point'. IN fact, you rarely do. this time is no different.

Hi Longy,
have you ever read one of Maggie's books?

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Reply #84 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

You simply miss the point - as usual.

All right then - Thatcher was the ultimate Fascist - more so than Adolph Hitler... and a rapist of her own industries and people for her own benefit.... and all out of the public purse like any true socio-fascist....

you aren't making a coherent 'point'. IN fact, you rarely do. this time is no different.

Hi Longy,
have you ever read one of Maggie's books?

no. have you? do you think she is a socialist?

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Re: Record Numbers Turning To Socialism
Reply #85 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

You simply miss the point - as usual.

All right then - Thatcher was the ultimate Fascist - more so than Adolph Hitler... and a rapist of her own industries and people for her own benefit.... and all out of the public purse like any true socio-fascist....

you aren't making a coherent 'point'. IN fact, you rarely do. this time is no different.

Hi Longy,
have you ever read one of Maggie's books?

no. have you? do you think she is a socialist?

She was a far right winger - the opposite of a socialist.

No - I haven't read even one word of her books.
It thought is was compulsory reading for right wingers like you?

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Reply #86 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:35pm

She is the type of socialist who totally feels entitled to draw deeply from the same public purse that she so roundly criticises for its method of accessing money. That sounds like a socialist in disguise to me, but ONLY the kind that loves socialism when it suits them... same as a business that expects handouts from the same till is socialist.... with the exception that the business doesn't expect to be totally supported in style from that till - unlike Maggie etc....

Did she accept a loss of pay at the same time as Veteran pensions were lowered? Will Tony accept a loss of salary to compensate for no penalty for Sunday and out of hours work?

Not On Your Nellie!

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Re: Record Numbers Turning To Socialism
Reply #87 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:41pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 6:35pm:

She is the type of socialist who totally feels entitled to draw deeply from the same public purse that she so roundly criticises for its method of accessing money. That sounds like a socialist in disguise to me, but ONLY the kind that loves socialism when it suits them... same as a business that expects handouts from the same till is socialist.... with the exception that the business doesn't expect to be totally supported in style from that till - unlike Maggie etc....

Did she accept a loss of pay at the same time as Veteran pensions were lowered? Will Tony accept a loss of salary to compensate for no penalty for Sunday and out of hours work?

Not On Your Nellie!

Tony gets paid more than Obama.

How's that for a rip-off?

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Re: Record Numbers Turning To Socialism
Reply #88 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 7:07pm

Panther wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

capitalism works great when socialism acts prevents it from failing

http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/exitstageleft.gif

.....

It's exactly the other way around Johno, except the Socialists never show enough restraint,
& unfortunately always overextend their credit, continually taxing & borrowing, to a point that even
the best Capitalists can barely save their 'drunken sailor' like spendthrift asses.

Ever hear of a place called ................ EUROPE??

.....

http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/exitstageright.gif

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http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/yes.gif

I see you've been reading the liberal handbook again .....

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Re: Record Numbers Turning To Socialism
Reply #89 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 7:16pm

cods wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Panther wrote on Nov 18^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 8:20pm:

capitalism works great when socialism acts prevents it from failing

http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/exitstageleft.gif

.....

It's exactly the other way around Johno, except the Socialists never show enough restraint,
& unfortunately always overextend their credit, continually taxing & borrowing, to a point that even
the best Capitalists can barely save their 'drunken sailor' like spendthrift asses.

Ever hear of a place called ................ EUROPE??

.....

http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/exitstageright.gif

.....

http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/yes.gif

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dont tell him where that money they throw at everything comes from....lets see $40m for a football game??

only an idiot would call the world cup 'a football game'

In December 2008, Federal minister for sport Kate Ellis announced that the federal government would give Football Federation Australia $45.6 million[30] to fund its World Cup bid preparation

clever girl, she saved us millions... the Sydney olympic committee spent over $75m in it's bid to win the olympics in 2000 ...... do you realise that the world cup has a larger following than the olympics?

WAWWW we didnt win...

no one wins every bid

dont forget they also praise NORWAY as the country of choice.. you know the one "filthy rich "selling nasty oil that is killing the planet... Grin

..

you seem confused .... no one has said you can't sell oil

it makes sense to a lot of labs..

ahh, now I see the problem, common sense always confuses you doesn't it?

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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