Swagman wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:



Good to see!   Now let's see Mr Sinodinos and the 10 other NSW Liberal MPs face the same.  Bottle of red anyone?

And so they should be.....

Vic wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:


What say you, swaggie???

Whilst it especially sweet when it's your team this is one of those issues that we should unite on and demand a federal investigation into corruption leaving no stone unturned, these pricks are meant to be representing the peoples interests.

Swagman wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:09pm:

Corruption is corruption, that's  like saying I didn't rape her because I didn't cum.

Its time wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

Swagman wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:09pm:



Wait till Australian Water Holdings gets fully investigated - some big names are going to fall there!  What was Sinodinos getting per annum for how many hours?  (cough cough)

Its time wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:



there is a bit of a difference between not declaring a bottle of win on a pecuniary interest register (not a crime) and defrauding the state of $100M

Swagman wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:13pm:



They didn't use the title "more alp corrupt bla bla bullshit..." That was all on you mate.

I am sure the story itself is news worthy for some, I am also sure that the ABC were not the only possible source of the story. However, truly, it is nothing new at all, or particularly unexpected.

The only surprising news will be if either of those two grubs have a get outta gaol free card somehow...

The real interesting point made in this thread would be for a bipartisan approach to a federal ICAC.... That would be worth whatever it cost, providing of course that it has far reaching frame work and is not limited. Clearly though, neither team will jump on board that bus eh? Both have far too much at risk on that front.

Should we really be arguing Liberal Vs Labor given current outcomes?

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:28pm:


......what did Julian Assange say 

teddybear wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:23pm:


Both, actually......

Thanx for bringing that up.

Swagman wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:


Sweden has some rather odd rape laws not the least of which is that a woman can change her mind AFTER THE EVENT and not wearing a condom when the other person wants you to is also rape.

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:46pm:


I am alone I know! but I still believe in our system.. and I still believe for the most part they are honest and there for the benefit of the country...

like any industry its not perfect and will always attract those who think they can milk a good thing..

which is what OBEID and Mcdonald did.. they lined their own pockets...and the union guy wasnt far behind...

and dont forget this wasnt a one off like a bottle of plonk.

Swagman wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:



Lock him up and throw away the keys .... just make sure the 11 or so libs also found wanting, are in the cell with him

cods wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 4:27pm:


Not really alone, cods.
All corruption should be punished.

I allowed a fair amount of leeway with my people , when it came to "foreign orders", ie. making something for themselves, or family using company materials, etc.

In 40-odd years I only had to sack one person for lying/theft.

As I said elsewhere today, it wasn't just 'a bottle of plonk'.
It was the lies associated with said bottle....

Lobo wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 4:39pm:


there is still a huge difference between the Grange Scandal which remains NOT a criminal offence and that of stealing $100B from the taxpayer.

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 5:03pm:



one wonders when there never has been a Labor MP in court......

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 5:02pm:


You lot seem to want to see this 'Bottle' as a stand alone.

Forget about lying to the people...

Fair enough.

And that's only 1 out of 12.

Ripper!!!

cods wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 5:10pm:


I'm not sure that he didn't and can't be bothered chasing it up as we all been through all this before.

I do believe it was mentioned in parliament so I presume he gave an answer.
As he denied it for some time there is the possibility he did.
And then there is the fact it was not declared.
An untruth in itself.