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Reply #30 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:23am

UAE calling the kettle black.

It was noted in a cable that UAE-based donors have provided financial support to a variety of terrorist groups, including al-Qa'ida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups. They also fund Hamas.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contents_of_the_United_States_diplomatic_cables_lea...

UAE calls 15 Muslim groups in the West “terrorists”

In addition to the IRW designation, the UAE named 15 other Islamic charities and advocacy groups in the U.S. and Europe as terrorist entities:
•Islamic Relief UK (the British affiliate of IRW)
•Muslim Association of Britain (part of the U.K. Muslim Brotherhood)
•Cordoba Foundation in Britain (once described by David Cameron as a Muslim Brotherhood front group)
•Council on American-Islamic Relations (the self-described civil rights group which was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas-financing trial)
•Muslim American Society (which was created by the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood)
•Union of Islamic Organizations of France (a French Muslim group tied to the Muslim Brotherhood that profits from halal certification)
•Federation of Islamic Organizations in Europe (an alliance financed by Gulf sources with ties to Hamas)
•Islamische Gemeinschaft in Deutschland (the “main representative” of the Muslim Brotherhood in Germany)
•Associazione Musulmani Italiani (Italian Muslim Association)
•League of Muslims in Belgium (La Ligue des Musulmans de Belgique)
•Muslim Association of Sweden (Sveriges muslimska förbund)
•Islamic Society in Denmark (Islamsk Trossamfund)
•Islamic Council Norway (Islamsk Rad Norge)
•Finnish Islamic Association (Suomen Islam-seurakunta)
•CANVAS in Belgrade, Serbia

https://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/worlds-biggest-islamic-charity-brand...

"The halal food movement in France was troublesome enough when we learned that a secret embedded Islamic tax was being added to each sale. But CBN reported yesterday that it’s worse than that, because France’s $7 billion halal food industry has links to the Muslim Brotherhood. Buying halal food doesn’t just mean a deeper penetration of sharia into the West–it could mean that a portion of the purchase price ends in the pockets of Muslim Brotherhood cohorts".

https://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/muslim-brotherhood-nets-halal-tax-re...

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41913	Re: Anti-Halal extremists Reply #31 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:46pm So, your evidence that Australian Halal certification benefits Terrorism is one group, in France that undertakes Halal certification is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood (who were, until two years ago, the legal government of Egypt)? Keep working on your Toxiphilia, Adamant, you're getting very good with that long draw!
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Anti-Halal extremists Reply #32 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:31pm not at all Brian - he's also got that liberal backbencher who specifically said he didn't have any evidence of Australian certification fees going to terrorists.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41913	Re: Anti-Halal extremists Reply #33 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:33pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:31pm: not at all Brian - he's also got that liberal backbencher who specifically said he didn't have any evidence of Australian certification fees going to terrorists. Ah.
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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #34 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:46pm:

So, your evidence that Australian Halal certification benefits Terrorism is one group, in France that undertakes Halal certification is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood (who were, until two years ago, the legal government of Egypt)?

Keep working on your Toxiphilia, Adamant, you're getting very good with that long draw! Roll Eyes

The UK government endorses the muslim brotherhood and deosnt see it is a terror organisation.

I guess adamant fails again

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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #35 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:06pm

wally1 wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:46pm:

So, your evidence that Australian Halal certification benefits Terrorism is one group, in France that undertakes Halal certification is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood (who were, until two years ago, the legal government of Egypt)?

Keep working on your Toxiphilia, Adamant, you're getting very good with that long draw! Roll Eyes

The UK government endorses the muslim brotherhood and deosnt see it is a terror organisation.

I guess adamant fails again

And yet the UAE has endorsed it as a terrorist organisation. I guess each country assesses on its own intererests and experiences, ...unsurprisingly.

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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #36 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:46pm

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:25am:

Soren wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 8:36am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 12:04am:

Campaign to boycott Halal food gains momentum in Australia after yoghurt company ditches certification

Islamophobia rears it's ugly head. Roll Eyes

How is boycotting halal different from boycotting, say, fur, factory farming, bear baiting or sweat shop products?

It's wacist, innit?

Not at all, FD. All those white supremacists and the ex-One Nation crowd are just boycotting halal so that those Muslims don’t force their awful halal muck onto decent white people. How could it possibly be about race?

Personally, I don’t know why you keep bringing up the subject of race, FD. Some - not me - might think you have an issue with this.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #37 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:47pm

Datalife wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:06pm:

wally1 wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 7:46pm:

So, your evidence that Australian Halal certification benefits Terrorism is one group, in France that undertakes Halal certification is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood (who were, until two years ago, the legal government of Egypt)?

Keep working on your Toxiphilia, Adamant, you're getting very good with that long draw! Roll Eyes

The UK government endorses the muslim brotherhood and deosnt see it is a terror organisation.

I guess adamant fails again

And yet the UAE has endorsed it as a terrorist organisation. I guess each country assesses on its own intererests and experiences, ...unsurprisingly.

Welcome to the shifting sands of desert politics, effende.

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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #38 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:02pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:46pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:25am:

Soren wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 8:36am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 12:04am:

Campaign to boycott Halal food gains momentum in Australia after yoghurt company ditches certification

Islamophobia rears it's ugly head. Roll Eyes

How is boycotting halal different from boycotting, say, fur, factory farming, bear baiting or sweat shop products?

It's wacist, innit?

Not at all, FD. All those white supremacists and the ex-One Nation crowd are just boycotting halal so that those Muslims don’t force their awful halal muck onto decent white people. How could it possibly be about race?

Personally, I don’t know why you keep bringing up the subject of race, FD. Some - not me - might think you have an issue with this.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

Halal in Australia?

How the hell did we get to that?

Halal in Saudi, Iran, Jordan, Labia - I can see that.
But halal in Australia? How the hell did we get to that? What is the relevance of sharia food laws to Australia?

Why is Australia expected to accommodate sharia law when it comes to food??

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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #39 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:07pm

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:46pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:25am:

Soren wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 8:36am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 12:04am:

Campaign to boycott Halal food gains momentum in Australia after yoghurt company ditches certification

Islamophobia rears it's ugly head. Roll Eyes

How is boycotting halal different from boycotting, say, fur, factory farming, bear baiting or sweat shop products?

It's wacist, innit?

Not at all, FD. All those white supremacists and the ex-One Nation crowd are just boycotting halal so that those Muslims don’t force their awful halal muck onto decent white people. How could it possibly be about race?

Personally, I don’t know why you keep bringing up the subject of race, FD. Some - not me - might think you have an issue with this.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

Halal in Australia?

How the hell did we get to that?

Halal in Saudi, Iran, Jordan, Labia - I can see that.
But halal in Australia? How the hell did we get to that? What is the relevance of sharia food laws to Australia?

Why is Australia expected to accommodate sharia law when it comes to food??

If you want to sell food to the lucrative Muslim market, Soren, obviously you have to satisfy their views on food.

If you don't want to sell food to the lucrative Muslim market, then obviously you don't need Halal certification.

So, what business is it of mere customers of a particular brand of food stuff, whether or not the business that makes it seeks Halal certification? If you don't like their food stuffs being Halal certified, then don't buy it. However, please don't try and intimidate them into not being Halal certified. That is merely Islamophobes expressing their hatred for all things Muslim. Roll Eyes

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Anti-Halal extremists Reply #40 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:09pm Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:02pm: Why is Australia expected to accommodate sharia law when it comes to food?? They're not - yet Australian business are choosing to certify. Why is that?
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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #41 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:09pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:02pm:

Why is Australia expected to accommodate sharia law when it comes to food??

They're not - yet Australian business are choosing to certify. Why is that?

Fear.

Nobody ever goes along with Islam for any other reason. It makes no intellectual or emotional sense. Intimidation and the latent threat of violence - Islam.

Islam is violent until it obtains Submission. Everyone know that. Submit, or... er.... that's it. No alternative.

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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #42 - Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:55pm

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:09pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:02pm:

Why is Australia expected to accommodate sharia law when it comes to food??

They're not - yet Australian business are choosing to certify. Why is that?

Fear.

Nobody ever goes along with Islam for any other reason. It makes no intellectual or emotional sense. Intimidation and the latent threat of violence - Islam.

Islam is violent until it obtains Submission. Everyone know that. Submit, or... er.... that's it. No alternative.

I'd suggest greed is a much greater motivator, Soren. No one is forcing these companies to seek Halal certification. They do so in order to gain access to a lucrative market. Roll Eyes

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Re: Anti-Halal extremists
Reply #43 - Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 12:42am

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 9:46pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 8:25am:

Soren wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 8:36am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21^st, 2014 at 12:04am:

Campaign to boycott Halal food gains momentum in Australia after yoghurt company ditches certification

Islamophobia rears it's ugly head. Roll Eyes

How is boycotting halal different from boycotting, say, fur, factory farming, bear baiting or sweat shop products?

It's wacist, innit?

Not at all, FD. All those white supremacists and the ex-One Nation crowd are just boycotting halal so that those Muslims don’t force their awful halal muck onto decent white people. How could it possibly be about race?

Personally, I don’t know why you keep bringing up the subject of race, FD. Some - not me - might think you have an issue with this.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?

Halal in Australia?

How the hell did we get to that?

Halal in Saudi, Iran, Jordan, Labia - I can see that.
But halal in Australia? How the hell did we get to that? What is the relevance of sharia food laws to Australia?

Why is Australia expected to accommodate sharia law when it comes to food??

We? I thought you liked Danish.

There’s this thing called globalization, dear boy. We Australians like to do our bit. We try to make money, you see, by selling things overseas. Some of the customers are - wait for it - Muselmen.

Ridiculous, I know. We’d sell to your marvellous old country, but it’s involved in this thing called the common market. We Australians are left with the dregs of the world.

Pity the old One Nation crowd has a problem with it, but you’re one of the gang, no?

Good for you. No one has the right to not be offended.

And no one has the right to try to sell cheese to the Muselman.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Anti-Halal extremists Reply #44 - Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 7:18am Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:19pm: Nobody ever goes along with Islam for any other reason. It makes no intellectual or emotional sense. Or it makes business sense.
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