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Re: Islamic state- Selling Yazidi sex slaves for $10
Reply #15 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 10:28am
 
wally1 wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 8:50am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 5:47am:
wally1 wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 5:00am:
There was an american report a few weeks ago that the yazidis weren't being persecuted or harmed.


You've been holding onto that floating turd of fiction like a piece of drift-wood in the middle of the ocean to save yourself from drowning, haven't you Waleed?

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It would be just so much better if they simply censored the media so we didn't hear about these things, wouldn't it be, Waleed?


It was a American government report,beleive what u want. I posted the article a while back.



Can you repost the link to it, or to the thread that you put it in please??
I'd be interested to read it.
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Reply #16 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 10:46am
 
The ~50 thousand stranded and starving Yazidis on that hilltop turned out to be about 700, and they weren't starving if I recall correctly.
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Reply #17 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:02pm
 
We did manage to drop some food and other supplies to them. What happened to them in the end? Are they still there? Last I heard the Kurds were trying to help them out.
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Reply #18 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:42pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 10:46am:
The ~50 thousand stranded and starving Yazidis on that hilltop turned out to be about 700, and they weren't starving if I recall correctly.


It's all been a media beat-up, hasn't it Gandalf? Just an exercise in racism and Islamophobia.

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Reply #19 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:52pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:42pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 10:46am:
The ~50 thousand stranded and starving Yazidis on that hilltop turned out to be about 700, and they weren't starving if I recall correctly.


It's all been a media beat-up, hasn't it Gandalf? Just an exercise in racism and Islamophobia.


More like a US Government beatup to try and justify another intervention in Iraq.   They really want to go to Syria and that may still happen.  They want to export their version of democracy on the tips of their bayonets!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #20 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:57pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:42pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 10:46am:
The ~50 thousand stranded and starving Yazidis on that hilltop turned out to be about 700, and they weren't starving if I recall correctly.


It's all been a media beat-up, hasn't it Gandalf? Just an exercise in racism and Islamophobia.

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ISIS is just misunderstood.  They are just muslims trying to do good. 
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Reply #21 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 5:21pm
 
Datalife wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:57pm:

ISIS is just misunderstood.  They are just muslims trying to do good. 


Correct.

They are a Caring-and-Sharing kind of people who just want to bring the people back to Jesus Mohammed.

Muslims have 'strayed' over the past 1400 years, and the ISIS mission is to bring these sheep back into the fold ... into the warm and tender embrace of the Prophet (pbuh).



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Reply #22 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:10pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 10:46am:
The ~50 thousand stranded and starving Yazidis on that hilltop turned out to be about 700, and they weren't starving if I recall correctly.


Obama has taken credit for ending the Mt Sinjar siege, they dropped in about 20 special force troops who directed airstrikes that wiped out the threat from devout muslims from the Islamic state.

When muslims hide behind the skirts of women and children they are harder to take out, they were in the open and got smashed.

The Kurds are good people,compare the constitution of the Rojava cantons to sharia law in Islamic state,Taliban and Saudis.
civiroglu.net/the-constitution-of-the-rojava-cantons

About 2k people live on Mt Sinjar, it was a transit point for Islamophobes fleeing from the Islamic state muslims.
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Reply #23 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:12pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 2:12pm:
|dev|null wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 1:15pm:
It is, isn't it?  So, who apart from IS supporters are defending it Baron?   Can't see any of them here and there are so few compared to the overwhelming majority of Muslims who have stated their abhorrence of IS.  Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


majority smajority - Baron can quote islamqa, and the matter therefore is closed.


Islamqa is the oldest Islamic website on the internet,Sheik Munajid has been preaching sex slaves are halal for muslim men long before the creation of the Islamic state/
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Reply #24 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:16pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 3:58pm:
Rocketanski wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 2:20pm:
Baron, seeing that Islam can't possibly be to blame, who do you suggest we blame?


How about the Muslims who are committing the crime?  Rather simple, really?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


You could blame the Yahud (Jews) which muslims do for everything, 6 million jews are responsible for all the troubles for over a billion muslims.

How about blaming the bearded fukwits who preach Islam,these muslims say it is halal to rape and enslave non muslims.

We have muslims preaching sex slaves are halal for muslim men, muslims are taking non muslims as sex slaves and people wonder who is to blame.
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Reply #25 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:27pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:10pm:
Obama has taken credit for ending the Mt Sinjar siege, they dropped in about 20 special force troops who directed airstrikes that wiped out the threat from devout muslims from the Islamic state.


Actually it was the kurds - you know those other "devout muslims" who had already rescued the vast majority of the Yazidi refugees before the Americans arrived.

You also have other "devout muslims" in Baghdad who are now providing refuge for the Mosul christians who fled the ISIS onslaught.
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Reply #26 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:31pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 11:54pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 1:10pm:
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Islamic miltants in Iraq have created slave markets, trading and selling women and children of christian and yazidi groups according to UN investigators.

The slave markets in the al Quds area of Mosul in Iraq and Raqqa in Syria have been used as a way of attracting new recruits.

One yazidi woman was given to 10 Islamic state men, We were sold for 10-12 dollars,who could accept that behaviour,can god accept that?
www.businessinsider.com/the-un-says-iraq-slave-markets-sell-women-for-10-to-attr...


Allah does allow muslim men to have non muslim women as sex slaves, Profit Mo had a coptic christian sex slave called maria.
islamqa.info/en/10382

This is a clear violation of the Universal declaration of human rights by the Islamic state, what article prohibits slavery?


Mmm, I don't think that Islamic State is a signatory to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Baron.    Roll Eyes


How many Islamic countries are signatories to the UDHR Brian is it none zip zilch?

The Islamic countries have the Cairo declaration on human rights, the last 2 articles of that show sharia law trumps human rights.

Article 20 of the Constitution of the Rojava cantons shows the Kurds respect the UDHR.

Death for aspostasy,death for blasphemy, allowing slavery shows Islam is not compatible with human rights.

Of course people like you and HB promiscuously embrace beliefs that are not compatible with human rights.
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Reply #27 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:32pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:10pm:
The Kurds are good people


Goodness Baron - surely you wouldn't be referring to devout muslims as "good people" now would you? You clean out your mouth right now.
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Reply #28 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:33pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:16pm:
|dev|null wrote on Nov 25th, 2014 at 3:58pm:
How about the Muslims who are committing the crime?  Rather simple, really?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


You could blame the Yahud (Jews) which muslims do for everything, 6 million jews are responsible for all the troubles for over a billion muslims.

How about blaming the bearded fukwits who preach Islam,these muslims say it is halal to rape and enslave non muslims.

We have muslims preaching sex slaves are halal for muslim men, muslims are taking non muslims as sex slaves and people wonder who is to blame.


So, you agree with me that those who do the deed should be held responsible for it Baron?  So what are you arguing about, except trying to blame all Muslims for the crimes of a tiny minority.  There are 1.6 billion of them, how many have enslaved someone for sex?    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin

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During the 1st-century New Testament times, slaves who converted to Christianity were regarded as freedmen, brothers in Christ, and included in Christ's kingdom inheritance.[4] These slaves were told to serve their masters as if they were serving Christ, with honesty, faithfulness and respect (Ephesians 6:5-8 KJV).[4] Slaves were encouraged by Paul the Apostle in his first Corinthian Epistle to seek or purchase their freedom whenever possible. (I Corinthians 7:21 KJV)[4] That these things were possible suggests something of the nature of slavery in the first century for a significant proportion of those in this situation.

Avery Robert Dulles held the opinion that "Jesus, though he repeatedly denounced sin as a kind of moral slavery, said not a word against slavery as a social institution", and believes that the writers of the New Testament did not oppose slavery either.[40] In a paper published in Evangelical Quarterly, Kevin Giles notes that, while he often encountered it, "not one word of criticism did the Lord utter against slavery"; moreover a number of his stories are set in a slave/master situation, and involve slaves as key characters. Giles notes that these circumstances were used by pro-slavery apologists in the 19th century to suggest that Jesus approved of slavery.[41]

It is clear from all the New Testament material that slavery was a basic part of the social and economic environment. Many of the early Christians were slaves. In several Pauline epistles, and the First Epistle of Peter, slaves are admonished to obey their masters, as to the Lord, and not to men.[42][43][44][45][46] Masters were also told to serve their slaves in the same way. The basic principle was "you have the same Master in heaven, and with him there is no partiality."[47] Peter was aware that there were masters that were gentle and masters that were harsh; slaves in the latter situation were to make sure that their behaviour was beyond reproach, and if punished for doing right, to endure the suffering as Christ also endured it.[48] The key theological text is Paul's declaration in his letter to the Galatian churches that (NIV version) "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus",[49] suggesting that Christians take off these titles because they are now clothed in Christ.[50]

Paul's Epistle to Philemon was an important text for both pro-slavery advocates and abolitionists.[51] This short letter is written to be delivered by the hand of Onesimus, a fugitive slave, whom Paul is sending back to his master Philemon. Paul entreats Philemon to regard Onesimus as a beloved brother in Christ.[52] Cardinal Dulles points out that, "while discreetly suggesting that he manumit Onesimus, [Paul] does not say that Philemon is morally obliged to free Onesimus and any other slaves he may have had."[40] He does, however, encourage Philemon to welcome Onesimus "not as a slave, but as more than a slave, as a beloved brother".[53] (According to tradition, Philemon did free Onesimus, and both were eventually recognized as saints by the Church.) Seldom noted in the debate was the situation of Onesimus if he had not returned: an outlaw and a fugitive with limited options to support himself, and in constant fear of discovery and punishment. Be that as it may, as T. David Curp observes, "Given that the Church received Philemon as inspired Scripture, Paul's ambiguity effectively blocked the early Fathers of the Church from denouncing slavery outright." Curp points out that St. John Chrysostom, in his sermon on Philemon, considers Paul's sending Onesimus back to his master a sign that slavery should not be abolished.[5]

Paul's instructions to slaves in the Epistle of Paul to Titus, as is the case in Ephesians, appear among a list of instructions for people in a range of life situations. The slave situation is not singled out, it is just one life-situation one can find oneself in—and in which one can live faithfully to the glory of God. The usefulness to the 19th century pro-slavery apologists of what Paul says here is obvious: "Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior."[54]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_slavery#New_Testament]
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Reply #29 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:35pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:27pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 12:10pm:
Obama has taken credit for ending the Mt Sinjar siege, they dropped in about 20 special force troops who directed airstrikes that wiped out the threat from devout muslims from the Islamic state.


Actually it was the kurds - you know those other "devout muslims" who had already rescued the vast majority of the Yazidi refugees before the Americans arrived.

You also have other "devout muslims" in Baghdad who are now providing refuge for the Mosul christians who fled the ISIS onslaught.


The Kurds are not muslims, different culture and different language.

Arabic is the official language of Islam, Kurds speak Jurdish.

Please read the constitution of the rojava cantons and compare that to sharia law.

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