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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42248	Re: Islamic state- Selling Yazidi sex slaves for $10 Reply #195 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:06pm Still peddling collective guilt, Soren? Still trying to convince us that Islam and Muslims are all monolithic in their beliefs? I'm starting to believe Karnal, you did get your Psychology degree from the University of Baloney.
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Reply #196 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:10pm

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:43am:

I think it's the same failure, the same timidity that has allowed rape gangs to operate in England because authorities are afraid to appear racist.

So are you saying in this case it was failure and timidity on behalf of Iran? Thats where he came from remember.

But I think I am getting your point - you seem to be at last coming round to the idea that this was a failure of the various levels of the Australian authorities, not the muslim community - who a) rejected him and b) reported him to the authorities.

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When Abbott called for unity - Team Australia - he was attacked by Muslims.

Thats dishonest - he was attacked by just about everyone. All this point proves is that once again Australian muslims are on the same page as mainstream Australia - as I keep pointing out to FD.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #197 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:57pm

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:57am:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:43am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:37pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:26pm:

You ask such a question after you had Al hilali as your grand mufti for a decade or more. After you had incubated 70 jihadis now in Syria. After you have boycotted Abbott for wanting to include you in Team Australia - ie include you regardless of your history.

And yet I cant imagine even Hilali would have condoned anyone who held up a cafe and killed two people - I can't even see how someone like Hilali would have even inspired such behaviour. My question is valid because the alleged culture within the Australian muslim culture you allude to here simply doesnt match up with the circumstances around this case: firstly he was imported here by the Australian government - not invited and not created by the Australian muslims; secondly he was rejected and shunned by mainstream muslims; thirdly he was reported to the police by the muslims - because of his extremism. So once again, what else exactly could the muslim community have done? Somehow force the police to be more vigilant? Take the law into their own hands?

I am also interested in an answer to my follow up question: did the existence of islam or a muslim community make this man more likely to carry out his crime? And if so, I expect a damn good rationale for it - because the evidence seems rather clear on this particular matter: he became a threat after a) the police failed to follow up on warnings received by the muslim community itself and b) he was granted bail after being charged as an accessory to his ex-wife's murder - and therefore was free to carry out the hold-up when he did.

I think it's the same failure, the same timidity that has allowed rape gangs to operate in England because authorities are afraid to appear racist.

When Abbott called for unity - Team Australia - he was attacked by Muslims. If authorities deal with Muslim terrorism, they are denounced as racist islamophobes. SO one thing you all could do is face facts: there are Muslim terrorists among you. There is nothing Islamophobic or racist in realising and accepting that. ANd once you realise and accept it,you will know what to do about it. The first thing on your what-to-do list is to acknowledge that you have a problem in your midst.

When did the upgrade from "grooming" gangs to rape gangs happen, old chap?

The Faculty is most keen to study this phenomenon.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

Sorry, old chap, where is the mention of rape gangs in your source?

It’s talking about child sexual abuse.

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Reply #198 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:06pm:

Still peddling collective guilt, Soren? Still trying to convince us that Islam and Muslims are all monolithic in their beliefs? I'm starting to believe Karnal, you did get your Psychology degree from the University of Baloney. Roll Eyes

The old boy was awarded the university medal.

I believe it’s made out of meat.

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Reply #199 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:06pm:

Still peddling collective guilt, Soren? Still trying to convince us that Islam and Muslims are all monolithic in their beliefs? I'm starting to believe Karnal, you did get your Psychology degree from the University of Baloney. Roll Eyes

Don't take drugs kids or you will end up like John Smith here.

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Reply #200 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:10pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:43am:

I think it's the same failure, the same timidity that has allowed rape gangs to operate in England because authorities are afraid to appear racist.

So are you saying in this case it was failure and timidity on behalf of Iran? Thats where he came from remember.

But I think I am getting your point - you seem to be at last coming round to the idea that this was a failure of the various levels of the Australian authorities, not the muslim community - who a) rejected him and b) reported him to the authorities.

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When Abbott called for unity - Team Australia - he was attacked by Muslims.

Thats dishonest - he was attacked by just about everyone. All this point proves is that once again Australian muslims are on the same page as mainstream Australia - as I keep pointing out to FD.

He was attacked by Muslims and the Left - which of course is bizarre in the extreme. Abbott invites Muslims to be part of the team - Muslims denounce him as divisive and racist. The Left joins in because it is utterly unprincipled: unity is interpreted as anti-diversity.

Considering that Muslims are killing each other at a very great rate, every day, they are extremely thin-skinned and sensitive about criticisms. They gun down school kids but get very, very upset about a call for unity with the infidel.

You are not thin skinned about Muslims killing each other. Not at all. Muslim school kids gunned down to the sounds of allahu akhbaring? You guys fax in your routine denunciation and that's it. The PM calls for unity - that' will get you all agitated and denouncing and miffed and protesting.

Crazy.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42248	Re: Islamic state- Selling Yazidi sex slaves for $10 Reply #201 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren.
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Mattywisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1373 Gender:	Re: Islamic state- Selling Yazidi sex slaves for $10 Reply #202 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:31pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm: Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren. Actually it was spot on.
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Reply #203 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:35pm

Mattywisk wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm:

Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren. Roll Eyes

Actually it was spot on.

According to whom? You? Sorry, Matty you and your merry band of sock-puppets don't count. Your opinion is biased by your bigotry and Islamophobia. Roll Eyes

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Islamic state- Selling Yazidi sex slaves for $10 Reply #204 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:38pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm: Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren. Well, quite a few of them evidently aren't.
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Reply #205 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:35pm:

Mattywisk wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm:

Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren. Roll Eyes

Actually it was spot on.

According to whom? You? Sorry, Matty you and your merry band of sock-puppets don't count. Your opinion is biased by your bigotry and Islamophobia. Roll Eyes

How ironic coming from a sock puppeteer. Since I am not scared at all off muslims I am not Islamophobic numbnuts. I reckon you are, and that's why you want to appear a good muppet. So they won't bash ya down the shops.

According to reality would be the answer. Something that has escaped you all your life.

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Reply #206 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:35pm:

Mattywisk wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm:

Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren. Roll Eyes

Actually it was spot on.

According to whom? You? Sorry, Matty you and your merry band of sock-puppets don't count. Your opinion is biased by your bigotry and Islamophobia. Roll Eyes

Your opinion is biased by your spineless, submissive apologetics. That's your bigotry, Brain.

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Reply #207 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 12:33am

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm:

Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren. Roll Eyes

Well, quite a few of them evidently aren't.

And you base that claim on...what...exactly, Soren? Your Islamophobia? Your bigotry? Your religious persecution of Muslims? Roll Eyes

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Reply #208 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 12:35am

Mattywisk wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:35pm:

Mattywisk wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm:

Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren. Roll Eyes

Actually it was spot on.

According to whom? You? Sorry, Matty you and your merry band of sock-puppets don't count. Your opinion is biased by your bigotry and Islamophobia. Roll Eyes

How ironic coming from a sock puppeteer. Since I am not scared at all off muslims I am not Islamophobic numbnuts. I reckon you are, and that's why you want to appear a good muppet. So they won't bash ya down the shops.

According to reality would be the answer. Something that has escaped you all your life.

Matty, you really should work to improve your English.

Now, why don't you slip on another sock puppet and have another round of posting? Roll Eyes

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Reply #209 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:46am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 12:33am:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:29pm:

Abbott's assumption that Muslims weren't already a part of Team Australia was insulting, Soren. Roll Eyes

Well, quite a few of them evidently aren't.

And you base that claim on...what...exactly, Soren? Your Islamophobia? Your bigotry? Your religious persecution of Muslims? Roll Eyes

Responding to the increased terrorism threat, a new counter-terrorism border unit has screened more than 23,000 people at airports since August and 50 high-risk travellers have been hauled off planes on the tarmac. The unit has also questioned 1500 “persons of interest”.

And remember, Monis wasn't an any of the watch lists. So if there are 1500 questioned, there would be many more quiet sympathisers.

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