Karnal wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:23pm:


Datalife wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 3:09pm:


Not all religions are equal to the first responders as you are demonstrating.  Keep it up clown.   

I understand why Gandy wants to protect his faith, why do you and the other first responders not treat this religious inspired excess  with the same energy and using the same template of excuses as you do when you swarm threads about Islamic excesses? 

Although I do appreciate your efforts to deflect. 

Still your deflection is targeted at me, and we both know if the subject of this thread had been an islamic gunman, it would have been excusing and deflecting from islam, explaining that he was mentally ill, not representative, majority of Muslims are etc...you know the drill. 

None of that happened.  Just pointing out the bias is all.



Keep at it clowns.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:17pm:



Hardly anyone responds. They are both religious nutters, it is like responding to lights work.  Although to be fair it seems some people do like engaging with lights gear. 

I am more interested in why the usual first responders treat a thread about a christian gunman differently to one if it detailed a muslim gunman.

After all the template is well rehearsed and exactly the same, but only activated in the case of one religion.  I understand your bias, it is your faith, you want to protect it.  But the other first responders profess atheism and ideals to address and protect persecution of the many based on the actions of the few.  Maybe Christianity does not qualify for them. 

I don't know why, it is that explanation I am exploring.

Why in a thread about a christian gunman do the first responders react so differently, or indifferently depending on your perspective?

Ample time so far yet not a whit of the usual excuses, explanationions, or the Googlefoo deflections, the "look over there" postings. 

Why the bias and different treatment?  A question that has been posed frequently in this thread but no one has attempted an answer.

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:47pm:


Oh cmon, that was not an answer.  You are not a dill, you know the question I am asking.  You do read this forum right?

Scenario, this post, exactly as posted, Christian gunman, first responders...nothing. 

Scenario, this post, almost exactly as posted, substitute Muslim gunman.  You and I and I suggest everyone on the forum would know that the first responders would immediately  wade in with the usual well rehearsed responses, almost rote now, the mentally sick, not representative, a minority, majority are peace loving, yadda yadda then post some Googlefoo references as a "hey look over here" deflection and distraction. Throw in some crusades blame to garnish if feeling feisty. 

My question is why do the  first responders treat the same circumstance so differently?  Bias is my obvious answer.

There may be another but it is yet to be explained.

[quote author=Karnal link=1417495463/35#35 date=1417644312]

You’re [highlight]frying to turn a legitimate thread on Christian extremism into a Muselman thread.[/highlight]

How’s that for deflection?

Not to mention repetitive static.

Stop the boats indeed. [/quote]

The ironing is delicious.  :)

You cannot have a "legitimate" thread about islamic extremism without it being instantly swarmed by the first responders who immediately set up perimeter defences, and "hey look over there" actions, along with the usual, not representative, only a tiny minority, possibly mentally ill, the vast majority are peace loving, etc etc, the whole roll out of distraction, deflection, refusal to criticise, to examine, instead it is maximum effort to defend.

But here was a thread about christian extremism and the first responders are silent, no comparisons, no rediculous equivalences. 

Why the bias?  Why are only the islamic extremists defended? 

Keep at it clowns.  8-)

Keep at it Karnal, you couldn't be more transparent if you tried...or more rediculous in your efforts.  Keep at it clown. 

Why the bias? Why do the first responders treat christian extremism differently to Islamic extremism? 

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:17am:


Unlike you I am not psychic, so I do not know Wallys intent on posting this thread about a Christian extremist.

But there is an obvious difference in the actions by the first responders.  Post about christian extremist.  Nothing, none of the usual defences.  If there had been the exact same post but about an Islamic extremist, you know that the first responders would be swarming all over it, pointing in every direction.

Why the bias?   . Your bias is explainable.  The other first responders would have you believe they battle racism and unfair labelling of the many because of the actions of the few.

Not always though eh? 

Oh and piss off yourself, or explain the bias, or ignore the thread, or have me banned.  All actions available to you. 

I guess the first responders at feeling a bit hot under the collar. A bit uncomfortable staring at the bias.    .   

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:03am:


Thanks, DL. What do you think about Christian extremism?

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:46am:


I can tell you now it will be started by either Yadda or Sprint (which according to you somehow don't count). If its Yadda he will embelish it with the usual Quranic quotes and statements from silly imams to prove the link between muslim atrocities and islamic doctrine. If its Sprint, he will make some inane comment like "islam always produces terrorists" or simply "I hate Islam". THAT is a difference right there - no such embelishments are included in this thread. But more that likely the "swarm" will come from the usual suspects jumping on the "islam = being a thug" bandwagon. It is only then that you will get HB, Brian et al responding to this islamophobia.

So needless to say you have it completely backwards. You're a bit like FD - you rabbit all day about people for daring to respond to attacks against muslims and accuse them of hypocrisy - but completely ignore the hypocrisy of these people who dedicate their life smearing islam (including regularly making sh*t up or citing blatantly fake material), and who turn a blind eye to any atrocities that are non-muslim.

Rather than make the same bs post over and over and over like a broken record, why don't you either put up or shut up? Show me evidence of what you claim. You can't, because if you actually investigated the threads you talk about, you would quickly see that the reality is exactly as I have described.