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Reply #45 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:29am

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:34am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:03am:

Keep at it Karnal, you couldn't be more transparent if you tried...or more rediculous in your efforts. Keep at it clown. Cool

Thanks, DL. What do you think about Christian extremism?

Sorry, DL, you didn't answer.

Are you practicing Taqiyya?

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Reply #47 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 11:14am

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal

According to whom? The believers? Objective observers (which you claim to be which I have my doubts about)? Atheists?

As far as I am concerned, the believers of all religions deserve to be equally respected as long as they behave themselves and undertake their worship within the law. Then those believers who aren't working within the law should be held responsible for their actions, individually. Their co-religionists are not responsible for their actions.

Do you agree DL or do you still believe in Guilt by Association? Grin

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MumboJumbo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1474 Gender:	Re: Another christian extremist-Forgive him. Reply #48 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 11:29am \|dev\|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 11:14am: Do you agree DL or do you still believe in Guilt by Association? They're muslims, ipso facto they're evil. Case closed, tie to stake, light torches...
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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: Another christian extremist-Forgive him. Reply #49 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 11:31am Makes a change from the usual muslim nutjobs the litter the worlds news.
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Reply #50 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:57pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:29am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:34am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:03am:

Keep at it Karnal, you couldn't be more transparent if you tried...or more rediculous in your efforts. Keep at it clown. Cool

Thanks, DL. What do you think about Christian extremism?

Sorry, DL, you didn't answer.

Are you practicing Taqiyya?

I had never heard of taqiyya till I came to this forum, judging from the context it seems to be an islamic thing, maybe you can explain it. I didn't respond because I thought it was stupid and pointless, like most of your posts that I ignore. But if you insist I don't think much of christian extremism, same as I don't think much of islamic extremism.

Hope that helps.

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Reply #51 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:05pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 11:14am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal

According to whom? The believers? Objective observers (which you claim to be which I have my doubts about)? Atheists?

You are as dishonest as your brother. Contemptible effort. Complete the quote that you conveniently truncated to totally change its meaning. Pathetic effort.

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal to the first responders as you are demonstrating. Keep it up clown.

Is that the sort of debating technique you have been reduced to? Dishonesty and lies are strong in your family obviously.

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Reply #52 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:27pm

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 4:18pm:

Datalife wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 5:40pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jun 17^th, 2014 at 5:22pm:

So, do you condemn Christianity's so-called "Honour" Killings, DL or will we put you down as another apologist? Grin

I am an equal opportunity hater, I condemn all acts of buggerbuggery committed in the name of sky pixies. You won't see distractions, diversions, red herrings or fingers pointing the other way from me.

The search function on this forum is absolute crap, the old debate and relate was much better. But here is one for you Hotsocks, anytime you like I will condemn the religious head loppers and murderers. Unlike first responder Brain who maintains he cannot criticise or condemn. Cheesy

It is now the second day and still no "hey look over there" posts from the first reponders, the permanently on patrol for heresy and critisism of Islam and always poised to swarm with Google links to christian atrocities. "Hey look over there". All sorts of statements about mental illness, not representative, only a minority, not a monolith, etc etc till exhaustion.

But now silent. The bias is obvious bozos.

Keep digging clowns. Cool

Ah, gee, how everybody else manages to find stuff DL? Looks to me that it's very convenient for you.

You claim you condemn the excesses of other religions but I can't remember ever seeing you condemn anything other than what Muslims have done, usually by condemning all Muslims, hence "guilt by association"! Grin

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Reply #53 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:30pm

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:05pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 11:14am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal

According to whom? The believers? Objective observers (which you claim to be which I have my doubts about)? Atheists?

You are as dishonest as your brother. Contemptible effort. Complete the quote that you conveniently truncated to totally change its meaning. Pathetic effort.

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal to the first responders as you are demonstrating. Keep it up clown.

Is that the sort of debating technique you have been reduced to? Dishonesty and lies are strong in your family obviously.

I asked a question about the point you'd raised DL. It wasn't "dishonest" it merely referenced the part I wanted to question.

So again I'll ask,

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal

According to whom? The believers? Objective observers (which you claim to be which I have my doubts about)? Atheists?

It's a shame Brian doesn't read your posts any more DL because I'm sure he'd be able to supply more than enough examples of where all religions are as bad as each other! Grin

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Reply #54 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:37pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:17am:

What crap. The 'first responders' to the muslim gunman threads are

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1417564999/0#0

Kernal, You, Kernal, Hot Breath, Then Brian. Not having a good trot are you Gandalf?

Is it a case of Send in the Clowns or call in the Trolls Roll Eyes

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Reply #55 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:38pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:30pm:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:05pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 11:14am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal

According to whom? The believers? Objective observers (which you claim to be which I have my doubts about)? Atheists?

You are as dishonest as your brother. Contemptible effort. Complete the quote that you conveniently truncated to totally change its meaning. Pathetic effort.

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal to the first responders as you are demonstrating. Keep it up clown.

Is that the sort of debating technique you have been reduced to? Dishonesty and lies are strong in your family obviously.

I asked a question about the point you'd raised DL. It wasn't "dishonest" it merely referenced the part I wanted to question.

So again I'll ask,

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm:

Not all religions are equal

According to whom? The believers? Objective observers (which you claim to be which I have my doubts about)? Atheists?

No you dishonest bugger, you changed it to me stating that not all religions are equal from the statement that the first responders do not treat all religions equally.

Not everyone is as dopey as you are, your dishonesty is obvious.

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Reply #56 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:52pm

DL you actually answered the question! Pity you had to surround it with your usual torrent of abuse. Just goes to show how childish you that you react so emotionally to anything asked of you. You must have been a real ball in the Army. I wouldn't think such an emotional person would have made a good soldier. Grin

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Reply #57 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:02pm

now lets not get off track DL - how about you put or shut up?

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:59pm:

Scenario, this post, almost exactly as posted, substitute Muslim gunman. You and I and I suggest everyone on the forum would know that the first responders would immediately wade in with the usual well rehearsed responses, almost rote now, the mentally sick, not representative, a minority, majority are peace loving, yadda yadda then post some Googlefoo references as a "hey look over here" deflection and distraction. Throw in some crusades blame to garnish if feeling feisty.

My question is why do the first responders treat the same circumstance so differently? Bias is my obvious answer.

Give me evidence that the "first responders" are those who jump in with these "well rehearsed" apologetics - and not the islamophobes pinning islam and islamic doctrine to these lunatics. If you can, then you might have a point. But it is not the case - they are the second responders - responding to the islamophobes unfairly tarring all muslims with the same brush. This is important to acknowledge - and is at the heart of the distinction you demand - but refuse to listen to when explained to you. And this is why this thread (with no inference that christianity and christian doctrine is to blame) does not attract the kind of apologetics you are demanding.

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Reply #58 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:04pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:52pm:

DL you actually answered the question! Pity you had to surround it with your usual torrent of abuse. Just goes to show how childish you that you react so emotionally to anything asked of you. You must have been a real ball in the Army. I wouldn't think such an emotional person would have made a good soldier. Grin

I thought your comprehension fails were feigned but I can see now that they are probably actual. You might want to read my last post again, or not, I care not.

Your dishonesty in truncating my post then questioning the changed meaning of that post is blatant and obvious. Brain is a liar and you're deviously dishonest. What a family, what a tag team pair. Gandy must be so pleased to have you both in his corner. Roll Eyes

So why do the first reponders not respond to threads about christian extremists in the same way they do to islamic extremists?

Page four now and still no answer. Lots of dishonesty though. Grin

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Reply #59 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:13pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:02pm:

now lets not get off track DL - how about you put or shut up?

Datalife wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:59pm:

Scenario, this post, almost exactly as posted, substitute Muslim gunman. You and I and I suggest everyone on the forum would know that the first responders would immediately wade in with the usual well rehearsed responses, almost rote now, the mentally sick, not representative, a minority, majority are peace loving, yadda yadda then post some Googlefoo references as a "hey look over here" deflection and distraction. Throw in some crusades blame to garnish if feeling feisty.

My question is why do the first responders treat the same circumstance so differently? Bias is my obvious answer.

Give me evidence that the "first responders" are those who jump in with these "well rehearsed" apologetics - and not the islamophobes pinning islam and islamic doctrine to these lunatics. If you can, then you might have a point. But it is not the case - they are the second responders - responding to the islamophobes unfairly tarring all muslims with the same brush. This is important to acknowledge - and is at the heart of the distinction you demand - but refuse to listen to when explained to you. And this is why this thread (with no inference that christianity and christian doctrine is to blame) does not attract the kind of apologetics you are demanding.

First responders are the first to an emergency. The emergency being any thread that points to or describes an islamic excess. The first responders mitigate, the well rehearsed form of words are tiny minority, not a majority, possible mental illness, majority of peaceful, then Googlefoo pointing at christian excesses.

You can deny this happens but only at the risk of looking as foolish and dishonest as HotSocks.

Now here is a thread that describes a christian excess, you of course are excused, you are protecting your faith, but, if the other first responders are to be believed they do not care about the religion, they want fairness, not having the many painted by the actions of the few.

If the first responders were as impartial as they pretend, they would be stating this gunman was probably mentally ill, only a minority, majority of christians are peaceful, yadda yadda, you know the drill. You have seen it and participated in it many times.

But nope, the first responders did not erect the barricades.

Why the bias? Cool

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