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Reply #60 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:48pm

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:29am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:34am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:03am:

Keep at it Karnal, you couldn't be more transparent if you tried...or more rediculous in your efforts. Keep at it clown. Cool

Thanks, DL. What do you think about Christian extremism?

Sorry, DL, you didn't answer.

Are you practicing Taqiyya?

I had never heard of taqiyya till I came to this forum, judging from the context it seems to be an islamic thing, maybe you can explain it. I didn't respond because I thought it was stupid and pointless, like most of your posts that I ignore. But if you insist I don't think much of christian extremism, same as I don't think much of islamic extremism.

Hope that helps.

Thanks, DL, but it sounds like a diversion to me. Here you are in a thread on Christian extremism telling everyone to condemn Muslim extremism. You think a lot of Muslim extremism. We all know you do.

If you were as good as your word, shouldn't you be howling a littler harder at the Christians who are the subjects of the thread?

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Reply #61 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:54pm

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:52pm:

DL you actually answered the question! Pity you had to surround it with your usual torrent of abuse. Just goes to show how childish you that you react so emotionally to anything asked of you. You must have been a real ball in the Army. I wouldn't think such an emotional person would have made a good soldier. Grin

I thought your comprehension fails were feigned but I can see now that they are probably actual. You might want to read my last post again, or not, I care not.

Your dishonesty in truncating my post then questioning the changed meaning of that post is blatant and obvious. Brain is a liar and you're deviously dishonest. What a family, what a tag team pair. Gandy must be so pleased to have you both in his corner. Roll Eyes

So why do the first reponders not respond to threads about christian extremists in the same way they do to islamic extremists?

Page four now and still no answer. Lots of dishonesty though. Grin

I enjoy how you brand disagreement as "dishonesty". Typical of your thinking though. Obviously Skyhooks was your favourite band as a kid, right?

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Reply #62 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:54pm

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:13pm:

If the first responders were as impartial as they pretend, they would be stating this gunman was probably mentally ill, only a minority, majority of christians are peaceful, yadda yadda, you know the drill.

they only state it when responding to someone saying they are not. No one made any such claim in this thread, therefore no responses. Its pretty straightforward DL - but do keep trolling

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Reply #64 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 3:02pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:29am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:34am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:03am:

Keep at it Karnal, you couldn't be more transparent if you tried...or more rediculous in your efforts. Keep at it clown. Cool

Thanks, DL. What do you think about Christian extremism?

Sorry, DL, you didn't answer.

Are you practicing Taqiyya?

I had never heard of taqiyya till I came to this forum, judging from the context it seems to be an islamic thing, maybe you can explain it. I didn't respond because I thought it was stupid and pointless, like most of your posts that I ignore. But if you insist I don't think much of christian extremism, same as I don't think much of islamic extremism.

Hope that helps.

Thanks, DL, but it sounds like a diversion to me. Here you are in a thread on Christian extremism telling everyone to condemn Muslim extremism.

If you were as good as your word, shouldn't you be howling a littler harder at the Christians who are the subjects of the thread?

I am not telling anyone anything. I am demonstrating the bias of the first responders. It has been a wonderful thread I think. First responders looking a bit frazzled, if not blatantly dishonest and devious.

Compare and contrast the reactions between a thread about Christian extremism and the swarm that islamic threads instantly attract. Hell you are on patrol yourself 24/7.

Nearly 500 views of first responder clowns attempting to deny what is evident.

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Reply #65 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 3:07pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:52pm:

DL you actually answered the question! Pity you had to surround it with your usual torrent of abuse. Just goes to show how childish you that you react so emotionally to anything asked of you. You must have been a real ball in the Army. I wouldn't think such an emotional person would have made a good soldier. Grin

I thought your comprehension fails were feigned but I can see now that they are probably actual. You might want to read my last post again, or not, I care not.

Your dishonesty in truncating my post then questioning the changed meaning of that post is blatant and obvious. Brain is a liar and you're deviously dishonest. What a family, what a tag team pair. Gandy must be so pleased to have you both in his corner. Roll Eyes

So why do the first reponders not respond to threads about christian extremists in the same way they do to islamic extremists?

Page four now and still no answer. Lots of dishonesty though. Grin

I enjoy how you brand disagreement as "dishonesty". Typical of your thinking though

What I branded dishonest and devious was your truncating a post to change its meaning then attempting to interrogate that changed meaning.

Dishonesty and stupidity writ large.

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Reply #66 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 3:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

I care not.

Its becoming increasingly obvious from this thread that this is not the case at all.

Another dishonest poster attempting to misrepresent by truncating a post and interrogating a different meaning.

In case your comprehension is as dismal as Hotsocks my "I care not " was in response to Hotsocks failure to comprehend that post and an invite to reread, I cared not if he reread it or not. His failure was due to stupidity or feigned idiocy, either way he was not about to correct himself.

Was your failure dismal dimness or devious dishonesty? Grin

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Reply #67 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 4:14pm

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:52pm:

DL you actually answered the question! Pity you had to surround it with your usual torrent of abuse. Just goes to show how childish you that you react so emotionally to anything asked of you. You must have been a real ball in the Army. I wouldn't think such an emotional person would have made a good soldier. Grin

I thought your comprehension fails were feigned but I can see now that they are probably actual. You might want to read my last post again, or not, I care not.

Your dishonesty in truncating my post then questioning the changed meaning of that post is blatant and obvious. Brain is a liar and you're deviously dishonest. What a family, what a tag team pair. Gandy must be so pleased to have you both in his corner. Roll Eyes

So why do the first reponders not respond to threads about christian extremists in the same way they do to islamic extremists?

Page four now and still no answer. Lots of dishonesty though. Grin

I enjoy how you brand disagreement as "dishonesty". Typical of your thinking though

What I branded dishonest and devious was your truncating a post to change its meaning then attempting to interrogate that changed meaning.

Dishonesty and stupidity writ large.

Yet your spray was more general. So you're not calling Gandalf "dishonest" then? Grin

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Reply #68 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 4:56pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 3:17pm:

Looks like DL has jumped the gun. I'm away for a few minutes and missed it.

Of course, we could say he's a lone-wolf gunman, who is mentally deranged and his beliefs have nothing do "wiv"* mainstream Christianity. However, we are reliably informed, time after time by many here that this viewpoint is wrong, that religious inspiration is what motivates such people all the time, that mental illness has nothing "to do wiv nothin'"*, so therefore we must claim that his views are in fact illustrative of what the majority of Christians believe in their hearts. Now DL we wouldn't want to be inconsistent, now would we? I fully expect to see Yadda, Sprint, Soren, Freediver, Baron, etc., all leaping to the same conclusion and accepting that this man was divinely inspired by his Christian beliefs about the superiority of white people over all them coloured folks! I also expect, when they fail to make that leap, to see you criticising them for failing to do so! Grin

Which Biblical chapters inform the belief in white superiority? Remind us.

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Reply #70 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 5:09pm

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 3:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:29am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:34am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 9:03am:

Keep at it Karnal, you couldn't be more transparent if you tried...or more rediculous in your efforts. Keep at it clown. Cool

Thanks, DL. What do you think about Christian extremism?

Sorry, DL, you didn't answer.

Are you practicing Taqiyya?

I had never heard of taqiyya till I came to this forum, judging from the context it seems to be an islamic thing, maybe you can explain it. I didn't respond because I thought it was stupid and pointless, like most of your posts that I ignore. But if you insist I don't think much of christian extremism, same as I don't think much of islamic extremism.

Hope that helps.

Thanks, DL, but it sounds like a diversion to me. Here you are in a thread on Christian extremism telling everyone to condemn Muslim extremism.

If you were as good as your word, shouldn't you be howling a littler harder at the Christians who are the subjects of the thread?

I am not telling anyone anything. I am demonstrating the bias of the first responders. It has been a wonderful thread I think. First responders looking a bit frazzled, if not blatantly dishonest and devious.

Compare and contrast the reactions between a thread about Christian extremism and the swarm that islamic threads instantly attract. Hell you are on patrol yourself 24/7.

Nearly 500 views of first responder clowns attempting to deny what is evident.

But , DL, the first responder was you.

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Reply #71 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 5:12pm

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 4:56pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 3:17pm:

Looks like DL has jumped the gun. I'm away for a few minutes and missed it.

Of course, we could say he's a lone-wolf gunman, who is mentally deranged and his beliefs have nothing do "wiv"* mainstream Christianity. However, we are reliably informed, time after time by many here that this viewpoint is wrong, that religious inspiration is what motivates such people all the time, that mental illness has nothing "to do wiv nothin'"*, so therefore we must claim that his views are in fact illustrative of what the majority of Christians believe in their hearts. Now DL we wouldn't want to be inconsistent, now would we? I fully expect to see Yadda, Sprint, Soren, Freediver, Baron, etc., all leaping to the same conclusion and accepting that this man was divinely inspired by his Christian beliefs about the superiority of white people over all them coloured folks! I also expect, when they fail to make that leap, to see you criticising them for failing to do so! Grin

Which Biblical chapters inform the belief in white superiority? Remind us.

I’m not sure, old boy. How did you come to this belief?

As a Lutheran, I mean.

Was it correlation or causation?

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Reply #72 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 5:17pm

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 4:56pm:

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Which Biblical chapters inform the belief in white superiority? Remind us.

Quote:

Will The Real Armageddon Please Stand Up? Appendix A: Is White Supremacy Scriptural?
by Pastor Mark Downey

It is curious as to how this expression 'White Supremacy' has become such a bugaboo, how it invokes images of some sort of exaggerated cult and how the average citizen reacts to the utterance of this phrase. We know the enemy perverts language and is the author of confusion, therefore it would behoove us to research words that are so loosely bandied about that are causing us so much trouble...

[http://kinsmanredeemer.com/SupremacyScriptural.html]

You should read the whole article Soren. It should make you feel right at home, knowing there are people who think like this with their Christian teachings... Grin

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Psalm 123:2 (New International Version (NIV)): As the eyes of slaves look to the hand of their master, as the eyes of a maid look to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to the LORD our God, till he shows us his mercy.

Ephesians 6:4-6: Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

Ephesians 6:5:Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Ephesians 6:9:And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Colossians 3:22:Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

Colossians 4:1:Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.

Titus 2:9:Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,

1 Peter 2:18:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

Slaveowners would read these verses to slaves as part of the worship services that they allowed (and controlled) as a means of encouraging the proper attitude among their slaves. Based upon these isolated verses, slaveowners claimed that the Bible supported slavery and taught slaves to be obedient to their masters.

[http://www.reunionblackfamily.com/apps/blog/show/7183511-biblical-verses-used-by-slave-masters-to-justify-slavery]

Grin

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Reply #73 - Dec 5^th, 2014 at 9:53am

Datalife wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

my "I care not " was in response to Hotsocks failure to comprehend that post and an invite to reread, I cared not if he reread it or not.

I repeat - its becoming increasingly obvious from this thread that this is not the case at all.

Also your glaring inability to address the actual relevant point here has been noted:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

they only state it when responding to someone saying they are not. No one made any such claim in this thread, therefore no responses.

Put up or shut up DL - prove your BS claims. You're only here to troll, that is the one thing you have been able to prove here.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #74 - Dec 5^th, 2014 at 5:53pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 5:17pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 4:56pm:

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Which Biblical chapters inform the belief in white superiority? Remind us.

Quote:

Will The Real Armageddon Please Stand Up? Appendix A: Is White Supremacy Scriptural?
by Pastor Mark Downey

It is curious as to how this expression 'White Supremacy' has become such a bugaboo, how it invokes images of some sort of exaggerated cult and how the average citizen reacts to the utterance of this phrase. We know the enemy perverts language and is the author of confusion, therefore it would behoove us to research words that are so loosely bandied about that are causing us so much trouble...

[http://kinsmanredeemer.com/SupremacyScriptural.html]

You should read the whole article Soren. It should make you feel right at home, knowing there are people who think like this with their Christian teachings... Grin

Quote:

Psalm 123:2 (New International Version (NIV)): As the eyes of slaves look to the hand of their master, as the eyes of a maid look to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to the LORD our God, till he shows us his mercy.

Ephesians 6:4-6: Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

Ephesians 6:5:Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Ephesians 6:9:And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

Colossians 3:22:Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

Colossians 4:1:Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.

Titus 2:9:Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,

1 Peter 2:18:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

Slaveowners would read these verses to slaves as part of the worship services that they allowed (and controlled) as a means of encouraging the proper attitude among their slaves. Based upon these isolated verses, slaveowners claimed that the Bible supported slavery and taught slaves to be obedient to their masters.

[http://www.reunionblackfamily.com/apps/blog/show/7183511-biblical-verses-used-by-slave-masters-to-justify-slavery]

Grin

And yet - slavery in the West was abolished on the basis of Christian principles, by Christians.

It is still not abolished in Islam.

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