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Muslims funding terrorism
Dec 4^th, 2014 at 8:17am

Gandalf you are normally eager to paint yourself as the progressive Islamist reformer, for example when it comes to executing gays and other ways you think Muslims are failing to be good Muslims. So why is it that the money is off limits?

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2014 at 9:10pm:

What do you think our highly respected Muslim community leaders do with the millions of dollars they steal from their own children's education funds?

freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 7:24pm:

Should we turn a blind eye to the terrorism risks associated with Muslim community leaders siphoning off millions of dollars in government funds?

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 7:40pm:

Perhaps you are having difficulty understanding FD - a question that has a false premise cannot be answered.

Do you think its fair to label every single misdemeanor involving muslims as a terrorist threat?

What exactly is the false premise of the question?

Are you trying to downplay the significance of the multi-million dollar fraud by describing it as a misdemeanor?

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:59pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 7:46pm:

You are the only one making that leap. I am asking the perfectly reasonable question

You can't even see that you are making the leap by asking the question. If you weren't making the leap you wouldn't be asking the question.

So I cannot ask about the risk because the risk does not even exist?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Muslims funding terrorism Reply #1 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 8:56am FD why do you automatically jump to the conclusion that a case of misusing government funds represents a terrorist threat? Surely it is not possible that you cannot understand how unreasonable this logical leap is... is it??
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Reply #2 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 11:06am

Muslim leaders stealing money? Terrible! Of course you have evidence of this occurring FD? Where is it? Why haven't you presented it to the Police? Lets see it. If you have it. You do have some?

I challenged you in the other threads but still haven't seen anything which would pass muster in the courts. I wonder why? Could it be your bigotry talking? Grin

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: Muslims funding terrorism Reply #3 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:28pm Gandalf, I am not saying these people are threatening to blow something up. I am saying there is a risk that the money will end up funding terrorism. Do you think this risk exists?
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Reply #4 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:31pm

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Gandalf, I am not saying these people are threatening to blow something up. I am saying there is a risk that the money will end up funding terrorism.

Do you think this risk exists?

I think it does. I mean, if you donate to the Green Crescent or the Red Cross or World Vision or Oxfam or MSF, how do you know the money isn't going into blowing things up?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: Muslims funding terrorism Reply #5 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:43pm You can't trust them Karnal. But you can trust our respected Muslim community leaders. They only steal for personal gain, not to fund terrorism.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96171 Gender:	Re: Muslims funding terrorism Reply #6 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:45pm freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:43pm: You can't trust them Karnal. But you can trust our respected Muslim community leaders. They only steal for personal gain, not to fund terrorism. Which ones, FD? I'm curious.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96171 Gender:	Re: Muslims funding terrorism Reply #7 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:23pm Oh. You didn't answer.
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Reply #8 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:29pm

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

I am saying there is a risk that the money will end up funding terrorism.

Like I said, you are automatically jumping to the conclusion that a case of misusing government funds represents a terrorist threat - with absolutely no evidence, and by an organization that has no known links to terrorists.

If you really can't understand what a ridiculous leap in logic that is, I'm not going to waste my time trying to explaining it to you.

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Reply #9 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 1:37pm

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:43pm:

You can't trust them Karnal. But you can trust our respected Muslim community leaders. They only steal for personal gain, not to fund terrorism.

Still waiting to see the evidence. Perhaps Brian was right, this is just slander you're promoting FD. No evidence equates to what? Lies? Grin

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Reply #10 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:08pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Gandalf, I am not saying these people are threatening to blow something up. I am saying there is a risk that the money will end up funding terrorism.

Do you think this risk exists?

I think it does. I mean, if you donate to the Green Crescent or the Red Cross or World Vision or Oxfam or MSF, how do you know the money isn't going into blowing things up?

Because the Red Cross or World Vision or Oxfam or MSF are not Islamic organisations. There is no Muslims influence over them.

Muslim charities and non-profits, on the other had, are known to be targeted overtly or covertly by fundamentalist Islamic sympathisers.

The Communist Party of Australia was a Moscow puppet in a way that the Liberal Party was not. Muslim organisations have links to the Middle East, you know. They are targeted openly or secretly by the 'tiny minority'.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96171 Gender:	Re: Muslims funding terrorism Reply #11 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:30pm Fun fact, old boy: the United Australia Party had its own militia back in the 1930s. So yes, the Liberal Party was once, in today’s terms, a terrorist organization.
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Reply #12 - Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:33pm

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 4^th, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Gandalf, I am not saying these people are threatening to blow something up. I am saying there is a risk that the money will end up funding terrorism.

Do you think this risk exists?

I think it does. I mean, if you donate to the Green Crescent or the Red Cross or World Vision or Oxfam or MSF, how do you know the money isn't going into blowing things up?

Because the Red Cross...[is] not [an] Islamic organisation... There is no Muslims influence over them.

Obviously you've never heard of how The International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement is organised, Soren. Perhaps the name might give you a clue? Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - Dec 5^th, 2014 at 5:15am

I don't see much "terrorism" in the west, but I do see a vast amount of muslim children.

Feminism kills a people, islam propagates them. We should convert now so that we can deport all the non-aussie muslims. Different muslim ethnicities do that you know. Feminists only offer themselves up to be violated, and we are ALL feminist whether you are male or female.

convert to islam and save the west.

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Reply #14 - Dec 5^th, 2014 at 11:16am

Low birth rates aren't much to do with Feminism. It's primarily to do with the rising aspirations of households. Women go out to work to support the household's view that they need the biggest and latest TV/Fridge/Dishwasher/etc. So they have less time to devote to child care and so lower birthrates result. Thats why immigrant birthrates fall dramatically after their arrival in modern, western societies. Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

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