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Reply #15 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:17pm:
Rather like these fellows have been lecturing us about Christianity over the last
60 years, Herbie?


Christianity, just like Islam, is not a single monolithic entity.

Emphasis on certain passages in the bible and in the koran is what creates the schisms ~ schisms that are no less Christian or Islamic for being focussed upon certain teachings within these holy books.

Own goal again, Brian.
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Reply #16 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:49pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:17pm:
Rather like these fellows have been lecturing us about Christianity over the last
60 years, Herbie?


Christianity, just like Islam, is not a single monolithic entity.

Emphasis on certain passages in the bible and in the koran is what creates the schisms ~ schisms that are no less Christian or Islamic for being focussed upon certain teachings within these holy books.

Own goal again, Brian.


Thank you, Herbie, you've just sunk your own argument.  If Islam is not a single monolithic entity, why do you claim all Muslims represent a problem to Australian society?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:52pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:12pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
You mean hate something you know absolutely nothing about?


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Know nothing about. Right.

Islam has been lecturing us as to its nature since at least 9/11, and is now in the process of giving graphic demonstrations of its more 'proactive' ideology from various parts of Syria and Iraq.

Needless to say Karnal knows what 'it's all about' ~ but this arcane knowledge is too deep and too academically complex for the rest of us mere mortals to have even the vaguest of understanding.

Karnal walks among us as an intellectual giant among Lilliputians.


I look forward to your learned treatise on Islamic jurisprudence, Herbie.

Why don’t you tell us about Sharia law?

The old boy thinks women are worth half the value of men. What do you think?
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Reply #18 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:59pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:17pm:
Rather like these fellows have been lecturing us about Christianity over the last
60 years, Herbie?


Christianity, just like Islam, is not a single monolithic entity.

Emphasis on certain passages in the bible and in the koran is what creates the schisms ~ schisms that are no less Christian or Islamic for being focussed upon certain teachings within these holy books.

Own goal again, Brian.


Ah. That explains the old boy’s take on women in Sharia courts.

You’re saying different courts with different imams in different jurisdictions have different takes on the old boy’s theme.

That makes sense. After all, Sharia law is not a single monolithic entity, no? Same with "Western" law.

What else can you tell us about Sharia law, Herb?
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Reply #19 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Thank you, Herbie, you've just sunk your own argument.  If Islam is not a single monolithic entity, why do you claim all Muslims represent a problem to Australian society?   Roll Eyes


Because they are Carriers, Brian. Generation after generation they carry forward the religious DNA that holds the potential for homicidal jihad against those who don't agree with them.

The vast majority of the suicide bombers and the murderous terrorists have parents who are not wanted by the law for any wrongdoing. All they did was introduce their children to the Islamic religion in the family home as part of their cultural DNA.

If born into a Christian home the likelihood of murderous jihad in later years would have been practically zero. I worked with both Christian Middle Easterners and Muslim Middle Easterners by the dozen, and so far I haven't heard of any Middle Eastern Christian butchery going on over there in Syria and Iraq.

The cultural DNA for that sort of homicidal rampage is practically zero among the Christians, but not so the Muslims. If they can't fight westerners ~ they'll fight each other.   

Why do you think Abbott has ordered that nobody who might become contaminated by Ebola over there in Liberia is not to be brought to Australia until thoroughly quarantined abroad?

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Reply #20 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:23pm
 
That’s right, Herbie. The Middle Eastern Christian butchery went on in Lebanon.

Why do you think the Lebs fled over here?

Feel free to touch base on the Sharia law issue. You were about to tell me how you hate it because you know so much about it, remember.
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Reply #21 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:36pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:23pm:
That’s right, Herbie. The Middle Eastern Christian butchery went on in Lebanon.

Why do you think the Lebs fled over here?

Feel free to touch base on the Sharia law issue. You were about to tell me how you hate it because you know so much about it, remember.


Sharia law is writ large on Google. Feel free to avail yourself of this avenue of enlightenment.

Meanwhile, we don't need you as a second road bump here besides Brian. He does the traffic pacifying job quite adequately on his own.

There's a certain visceral satisfaction that comes with feeling the Monroe shock absorbers compress and release as I repeatedly run over Brian trying vainly to defend Islam as a harmless collection of ideas from the 7th century.

Secretly, Brian enjoys the impact and the bruising that myself and others give him as a routine part of his day. It's why he returns here again and again like a poker machine addict who needs his 'fix' despite the damage it's doing him.

In this regard Brian has been a long-time client of mine, stretching back at least 10 years. He finds it therapeutic to get beaten up all the time. He finds it relieves certain guilty tensions in him.   

And who am I to deny him that?
 
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Reply #22 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:46pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:12pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Thank you, Herbie, you've just sunk your own argument.  If Islam is not a single monolithic entity, why do you claim all Muslims represent a problem to Australian society?   Roll Eyes


Because they are Carriers, Brian. Generation after generation they carry forward the religious DNA that holds the potential for homicidal jihad against those who don't agree with them.


Herbie, you've just acknowledged that Islam is not monolithic.  This suggests you realise that there are indeed moderates and extremists within Islam, as there are in all religions.   Therefore, how can you claim that all carry the "religious DNA", when by implication there are different strains of that "DNA" in your acknowledgement that Islam is not monolithic.   Roll Eyes

All the rest is waffling on your part, Herbie as you try and reconcile the contradiction in your statements.  The reality is, you've just sunk yourself with an own goal, Herbie.    Grin
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Reply #23 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:57pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:46pm:
Herbie, you've just acknowledged that Islam is not monolithic.  This suggests you realise that there are indeed moderates and extremists within Islam, as there are in all religions.   Therefore, how can you claim that all carry the "religious DNA", when by implication there are different strains of that "DNA" in your acknowledgement that Islam is not monolithic.   Roll Eyes


Dear Jesus, how many times must I explain the answer to this?

Babies are branded as 'Muslim' by their parents, and thereafter grow up within the household as vulnerable and suggestible to the preachings of hardline versions of Islam. Some youths depart from their parent's moderate attitude towards Islam, and become the sort of people we now have languishing in our jails as planners of homicidal jihad.

How many times have we gone around the block on this over the years, Brian?

Please find someone else to poke a stick at. We're done.



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Reply #24 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:06pm
 
People who subscribe to this sort of religious insanity should not be allowed citizenship rights in Australia.

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Reply #25 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:20pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:46pm:
Herbie, you've just acknowledged that Islam is not monolithic.  This suggests you realise that there are indeed moderates and extremists within Islam, as there are in all religions.   Therefore, how can you claim that all carry the "religious DNA", when by implication there are different strains of that "DNA" in your acknowledgement that Islam is not monolithic.   Roll Eyes


Dear Jesus, how many times must I explain the answer to this?

Babies are branded as 'Muslim' by their parents, and thereafter grow up within the household as vulnerable and suggestible to the preachings of hardline versions of Islam. Some youths depart from their parent's moderate attitude towards Islam, and become the sort of people we now have languishing in our jails as planners of homicidal jihad.

How many times have we gone around the block on this over the years, Brian?

Please find someone else to poke a stick at. We're done.


Thank you, Herbie, you have just acknowledged not only that Islam is not monolithic but indeed there are moderate and extremist versions of that religion.

Therefore, your claim that all Muslims must be stopped from entering Australia is obviously based on, by your own admission a contradiction because you are prejudging Muslims not on what they do or even what they believe BUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE.    Roll Eyes

So, Ladies and Gentlemen, we see the reality of Herbie's trolling.  He has revealed that all his posts against Islam and Muslims are based on a false premise.

I am surprised, Herbie.  For a "Sensei" of the "Way of the Troll", as HB so humourously puts it, you've just shot yourself in the foot.    Grin Grin
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Reply #26 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:46pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:46pm:
Herbie, you've just acknowledged that Islam is not monolithic.  This suggests you realise that there are indeed moderates and extremists within Islam, as there are in all religions.   Therefore, how can you claim that all carry the "religious DNA", when by implication there are different strains of that "DNA" in your acknowledgement that Islam is not monolithic.   Roll Eyes


Dear Jesus, how many times must I explain the answer to this?

Babies are branded as 'Muslim' by their parents, and thereafter grow up within the household as vulnerable and suggestible to the preachings of hardline versions of Islam. Some youths depart from their parent's moderate attitude towards Islam, and become the sort of people we now have languishing in our jails as planners of homicidal jihad.

How many times have we gone around the block on this over the years, Brian?

Please find someone else to poke a stick at. We're done.





Herbert, you are trying to talk common sense to cultists.
There's almost no point.

it's a VERY long road to divert anyone from their cult/addiction.
so much of their personality has gone to the cult, there is nothing of themselves left.

if they leave the cult, they are nothing.


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Reply #27 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:48pm
 


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........Thank you, Herbie, you have just acknowledged not only that Islam is not monolithic but indeed there are moderate and extremist versions of that religion.

Therefore, your claim that all Muslims must be stopped from entering Australia is obviously based on, by your own admission a contradiction because you are prejudging Muslims not on what they do or even what they believe BUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE.  .....


herb is suggesting the only solution to islamics.
which you agree are embedded within islam
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Reply #28 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:36pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 7:46pm:
Herbie, you've just acknowledged that Islam is not monolithic.  This suggests you realise that there are indeed moderates and extremists within Islam, as there are in all religions.   Therefore, how can you claim that all carry the "religious DNA", when by implication there are different strains of that "DNA" in your acknowledgement that Islam is not monolithic.   Roll Eyes


Dear Jesus, how many times must I explain the answer to this?

Babies are branded as 'Muslim' by their parents, and thereafter grow up within the household as vulnerable and suggestible to the preachings of hardline versions of Islam. Some youths depart from their parent's moderate attitude towards Islam, and become the sort of people we now have languishing in our jails as planners of homicidal jihad.

How many times have we gone around the block on this over the years, Brian?

Please find someone else to poke a stick at. We're done.





Herbert, you are trying to talk common sense to cultists.
There's almost no point.

it's a VERY long road to divert anyone from their cult/addiction.
so much of their personality has gone to the cult, there is nothing of themselves left.

if they leave the cult, they are nothing.




Kill them.
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Reply #29 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:36pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:48pm:
Quote:
........Thank you, Herbie, you have just acknowledged not only that Islam is not monolithic but indeed there are moderate and extremist versions of that religion.

Therefore, your claim that all Muslims must be stopped from entering Australia is obviously based on, by your own admission a contradiction because you are prejudging Muslims not on what they do or even what they believe BUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE.  .....


herb is suggesting the only solution to islamics.
which you agree are embedded within islam


Nuke them.
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