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Reply #30 - Dec 26^th, 2014 at 7:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 25^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Soren wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:40pm:

The right likes the free movement of capital. It hates the idea of the free movement of labour.

It hates the free movement of the budgerhadeen.

Labour - if only they worked. The bludgerhadeen are bludgers. For Allah. What's to like?

Except, Soren, the reality of history stumps you again. The first large numbers of Muslims to immigrate to Australia was done under, guess who? Why, Malcom Fraser, that representative (at the time) of guess what? The Right in Australia.

Malcolm Fraser is more Left than Sarah Hanson Young. Whitlam the Great Leftie said no to all the Vietnamese Balts and Fraser, the Crazy Grazier, said yes.

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Reply #31 - Dec 26^th, 2014 at 8:06pm

Soren wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 7:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 25^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Soren wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:40pm:

The right likes the free movement of capital. It hates the idea of the free movement of labour.

It hates the free movement of the budgerhadeen.

Labour - if only they worked. The bludgerhadeen are bludgers. For Allah. What's to like?

Except, Soren, the reality of history stumps you again. The first large numbers of Muslims to immigrate to Australia was done under, guess who? Why, Malcom Fraser, that representative (at the time) of guess what? The Right in Australia.

Malcolm Fraser is more Left than Sarah Hanson Young. Whitlam the Great Leftie said no to all the Vietnamese Balts and Fraser, the Crazy Grazier, said yes.

Whitlam was wrong. Fraser was correct (as well as right Wink

). Simple as that, Soren.

You got a problem with the Indochinese refugees?

As for Fraser's position on the political spectrum, he's stayed basically still while the rest of Australia has tended to shift to the right, much to it's detriment. Roll Eyes

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DifferentFrequency Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 162 Sydney Gender:	Re: what is destroying Australia more.... Reply #32 - Dec 31^st, 2014 at 1:46pm Malcom fraser was right wing. The right are the pro immigration side. In every western country. It's anti-worker.
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Reply #33 - Dec 31^st, 2014 at 2:19pm

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

DifferentFrequency wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

DifferentFrequency wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

DifferentFrequency wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 2:40pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 2:31pm:

DifferentFrequency wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 2:27pm:

ozzyoi wrote on Dec 26^th, 2014 at 10:08am:

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what is destroying Australia more....

Maybe reconsider wording the question from "what is"
"what started to destroy Australia" ?

My parents came from the experience of wars.

They worked and own a house with a 1/4 acre block which was bought around 1961. They paid their taxes, lived a normal clean existence.
The was no social security except their now aged pension which is fair enough given the fact they worked.

Have seen a few generations living off social security, never having a job, on the dole and now a few years short of aged pension.

I am not knocking the Social Security system, it has it's place in Australia, it's better than Anarchy or smashing windows to get food at Coles and share it with everyone else in a non violent scenario. Any living organism will get a little pissed of for lack of protein, just take enough and share the rest.

That's the problem with Australia, the equal share of jobs and wealth has been sold to overseas interests by those who wanted the proteins more than most did here due to Social Security generated Complacency.

Australia is SOLD OUT.

Moral

You can give a man a fish to feed him for one day,
but if you teach him how to fish, he can feed himself for a lifetime and teach others to do the same.

I find dat a black triangle patch on zee arm of zee vork shy is gut insentive. Cheesy

If we all worked 100 hour weeks from when the first boatload of Mediterranean Australians arrived in the 50s,....guess what? ....they would have brought them in anyway. In fact. We didn't even have the welfare culture BEFORE they started mass immigration and free trade.

Same in England. The first boat load of pakistanis was imported in 1948. People weren't slackers in 1948

There is something very sick going on in the west and it predates the dole culture.

The elite and wealthy want us to be a big divided up mess along ethnic , religious and socio economic grounds. It makes us easy to govern. That's all it's about.

must be where it started, yes. I can't believe they did that to merry old England after fighting 2 world wars for nationalism.

but I think now days it's just a free for all, bargain basement sale.

The elite fear communism. The idea of their unders getting together and pushing them out of power keeps them up at night. That's all mass immigration is.

Could be. Ethnic conflict model it's called. Like when the British moved the ulster scots to northern Ireland.

And they pit peoples against each other in the middle east too.

I just wish they'd get up and tell the truth instead of wheeling out that melting pot and cultural enrichment crud. England didn't need mass immigration. It's a over populated little island already. Australia would have populated at it's own speed. Oh well it's too late now. They won't like it so much when ethnic and religious groups start fighting one another and more bombs go off. The muslim nutjobs are going after the elite so most people will be safe.

The powers that be are horrible people.

and what about the "aging generation" scam? Now we don't have enough hospitals, schools and old age homes because howard brought in all those people.

and the "populate or perish" one in the 50s?

Mass immigration demoralized western populations so we stopped breeding. They hammered poor old germany. Each woman there can only afford 1.4 children! Fancy wheeling round .4 of a child! Tongue

They just do what they want and we have to suck on it. And then they get angry if we don't agree with them. In Australia some people are born and bred to feel they have authority over other people. I don't agree with that and never will. Cheers DifferentFrequency.

True, Homo, but it's different if you Western Sydney Curries have the authority.

Stop the boats, eh?

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DifferentFrequency Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 162 Sydney Gender:	Re: what is destroying Australia more.... Reply #34 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 7:33pm Erm karnel. We aren't talking about boats. The boats have been stopped by the government and the previous government did an adequate job of border protection too. It's a non issue.
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Reply #35 - Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:34pm

DifferentFrequency wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Erm karnel. We aren't talking about boats. The boats have been stopped by the government and the previous government did an adequate job of border protection too.

It's a non issue.

Not to Homo. To him, the boats represent an invasion of coloured hoards by sea. We can’t possibly stop the boats. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

Mind you, the boat-stoppers have ignored one important social and technological shift in the past half century: air travel. As Air Asia says, now everyone can fly.

And as we’ve spent the last 6 years myopically focused on about thirty thousand queue-jumping boat people, more refugees have come by air than ever before.

I still say we stop the boats.

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Reply #36 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 5:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 12:34pm:

DifferentFrequency wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Erm karnel. We aren't talking about boats. The boats have been stopped by the government and the previous government did an adequate job of border protection too.

It's a non issue.

Not to Homo. To him, the boats represent an invasion of coloured hoards by sea. We can’t possibly stop the boats. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

Mind you, the boat-stoppers have ignored one important social and technological shift in the past half century: air travel. As Air Asia says, now everyone can fly.

And as we’ve spent the last 6 years myopically focused on about thirty thousand queue-jumping boat people, more refugees have come by air than ever before.

I still say we stop the boats.

The media and the government don't want us to know planes exist.

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