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Messiah / God Complex
Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:32am
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex

A messiah complex (also known as the Christ complex or savior complex) is a state of mind in which an individual holds a belief that they are, or are destined to become, a savior. The term "messiah complex" is not addressed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), but symptoms of the disorder closely resemble those found in individuals suffering from grandiose delusions (GD) or delusions of grandeur. This form of delusional belief is most often reported in patients suffering from bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. Little is known about the disorder, but it is believed that as many as 10% of the population may hold similar beliefs in one form or another, though not significant enough to warrant a diagnosis.[1] Examples include Jim Jones, David Koresh[2] and Imran Khan.[3][4][5]

A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility. A person with a god complex may refuse to admit the possibility of their error or failure, even in the face of complex or intractable problems or difficult or impossible tasks, or may regard their personal opinions as unquestionably correct.[1][2] The individual may disregard the rules of society and require special consideration or privileges.[1]

God complex is not a clinical term or diagnosable disorder, and does not appear in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

The first person to use the term god-complex was Ernest Jones (1913-51).[3] His description, at least in the contents page of Essays in Applied Psycho-Analysis, describes the god complex as belief that one is a god.[4]

Mental illness is a horrible thing.
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Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:33am
 
I think this thread is a good place to discuss this complex and how to help people that have it.
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Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:41am
 
Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:33am:
I think this thread is a good place to discuss this complex and how to help people that have it.


Why shatter their delusions of grandeur?

Two very bad sports when it came to the public voting their egotistical arse out of office was Gough Whitlam and Paul Keating ... and Rudd, of course.
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Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:46am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:41am:
Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:33am:
I think this thread is a good place to discuss this complex and how to help people that have it.


Why shatter their delusions of grandeur?

Two very bad sports when it came to the public voting their egotistical arse out of office was Gough Whitlam and Paul Keating ... and Rudd, of course.


Fair enough.

But it is nice to be able to help someone achieve a normal sane life again that can constructively contribute to society and hopefully not suffer from mental illness.
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Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:59am
 
Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 5:46am:
Fair enough.

But it is nice to be able to help someone achieve a normal sane life again that can constructively contribute to society and hopefully not suffer from mental illness.


During one of my voluntary stays at one of Sydney's Psychiatric hospitals many years ago, we had someone there who thought he was Lord Nelson or Napoleon (I can't remember which). You would think this would have made him happy, but he spent a lot of time crying (when he wasn't violently snatching the glasses off the face of anyone who came within grabbing distance of him).

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Reply #5 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:05am
 
Yeah it is certainly a complex beast the old brain the way it is wired.
It is like some people need to hit reset and let it fire back up again with
default settings. Finding that reset is the whole problem I think. Today's
technology has come  long way though, and treatments. The issue I guess
then would be how do so many people get the individual treatment
and attention they need.
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Reply #6 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:43am
 
Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:05am:
Yeah it is certainly a complex beast the old brain the way it is wired.
It is like some people need to hit reset and let it fire back up again with
default settings. Finding that reset is the whole problem I think. Today's
technology has come  long way though, and treatments. The issue I guess
then would be how do so many people get the individual treatment
and attention they need.


After several personal acquaintances as an inpatient and as an outpatient with the psychiatric profession ~ I'm no longer a Believer. They are a Victimhood industry that does very little of any practical benefit for their patients.

The best that can be said for psychiatrists is that occasionally, more by fluke than good judgment, they prescribe medication that has an improving effect upon a patient.

That was not the case with myself, my elder brother who was schizophrenic, or my mother who was a bundle of nerves.

I would bump into patients who had been released from the hospitals, who were just as bad as when they went in. Crying on my shoulder and full of despair.

I had suicides going on in the same ward as I was in. Three of them in just a short time ~ and the psychiatrist in charge of them taught at the University of Sydney on Thursdays. What a joke. I signed myself out in disgust.

Useless as tits on a bull.

So what's your interest here, Mattywisk?


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Reply #7 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:44am
 
Mattywisk wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 6:05am:
Yeah it is certainly a complex beast the old brain the way it is wired.
It is like some people need to hit reset and let it fire back up again with
default settings. Finding that reset is the whole problem I think. Today's
technology has come  long way though, and treatments. The issue I guess
then would be how do so many people get the individual treatment
and attention they need.




The reset button.

If you seek a re-start/reset button, read the book of Psalms and the book of Proverbs.

The book of Psalms and the book of Proverbs are full of 'wholeness' and health, to our spirit.





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Its not rocket science!!!          Smiley

We are spirit beings.

And for a time we are imprisoned in these clay 'houses'.

This life is a distraction [is distracting!], but all of the choices which we make here, reveal 'what we are about'.

Even here [i.e. within this 'prison'], we have the power to choose [for ourselves].

We can make good choices, and/or, we can make poor choices.

Making good choices, we tend toward mental clarity.

Continually making poor choices, we tend toward mental confusion.




Proverbs 14:12
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #8 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:33am
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 8:44am:
The book of Psalms and the book of Proverbs are full of 'wholeness' and health, to our spirit.


Maybe you read a different psalm 147 than me Tongue

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #9 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:55am
 
Matty,
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A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by
consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility.



I hope there is no one like that on Ozpolitic?
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Reply #10 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 11:52am
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:55am:
Matty,
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A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by
consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility.



I hope there is no one like that on Ozpolitic?


Apart from It_is_the_light you mean??
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #11 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 1:44pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 11:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:55am:
Matty,
Quote:
A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by
consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility.



I hope there is no one like that on Ozpolitic?


Apart from It_is_the_light you mean??



Does he think he's the Messiah?
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Reply #12 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:09pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 1:44pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 11:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:55am:
Matty,
Quote:
A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by
consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility
.



I hope there is no one like that on Ozpolitic?


Apart from It_is_the_light you mean??



Does he think he's the Messiah?

He fits the description. (And it's quite possible that he does)
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #13 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:38pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:09pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 1:44pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 11:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:55am:
Matty,
Quote:
A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by
consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility
.



I hope there is no one like that on Ozpolitic?


Apart from It_is_the_light you mean??



Does he think he's the Messiah?

He fits the description. (And it's quite possible that he does)



One definition is:

3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Messiah


master Light has liberated me from being unable forgive others.

I was even able to forgive Longy.


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Reply #14 - Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:38pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 4:09pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 1:44pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 11:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 14th, 2014 at 9:55am:
Matty,
Quote:
A god complex is an unshakable belief characterized by
consistently inflated feelings of personal ability, privilege, or infallibility
.



I hope there is no one like that on Ozpolitic?


Apart from It_is_the_light you mean??



Does he think he's the Messiah?

He fits the description. (And it's quite possible that he does)



One definition is:

3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Messiah


master Light has liberated me from being unable forgive others.

I was even able to forgive Longy.



Well Bobby, read the highlighted definition in the preceding posts.
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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