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Reply #105 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:31pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

We are well and truly stuffed now. If you're in Sydney, evacuate immediately! Run for your lives! The B-52s are on their way!

I was just thinking (no, hold the applause) about how dreadfully ironic it would be if this bloke was actually trying to curry support for the anti-islam brigade by pretending to be a terrorist. I believe this sort of thing is called a "false-flag" op.

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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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MumboJumbo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1474 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #106 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:32pm \|dev\|null wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:30pm: Racial vilification Oh no, let's not get into the whole Islam-is-a-religion-not-a-race discussion again, shall we?
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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85381 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #107 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:35pm How is a single Muslim hostage taker going to do his prayers?
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Reply #108 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:37pm

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

We are well and truly stuffed now. If you're in Sydney, evacuate immediately! Run for your lives! The B-52s are on their way!

I was just thinking (no, hold the applause) about how dreadfully ironic it would be if this bloke was actually trying to curry support for the anti-islam brigade by pretending to be a terrorist. I believe this sort of thing is called a "false-flag" op.

Possible but a long stretch... seems more like some individual with a funny idea of making a statement or being a martyr for something he has yet to specify....

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“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #109 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:35pm: How is a single Muslim hostage taker going to do his prayers? You can combine prayers in special circumstances. That should give him until after 8pm tonight before he has to do any for today (excluding fajr prayer this morning).
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MumboJumbo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1474 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #110 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:35pm: How is a single Muslim hostage taker going to do his prayers?
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Reply #111 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:32pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:30pm:

Racial vilification

Oh no, let's not get into the whole Islam-is-a-religion-not-a-race discussion again, shall we?

It's covered under the Racial Discrimination Act. I agree it isn't a race, any more than Judaism but the they threw religion and race in all together under the one act, so thats the title used.

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

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MumboJumbo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1474 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #112 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:39pm polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm: You can combine prayers in special circumstances. That should give him until after 8pm tonight before he has to do any for today (excluding fajr prayer this morning). Is hostage taking one of those circumstances?
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #113 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:39pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:08pm: islam, guns, terrorism. raze every mosque to the ground. clearly it is the coffee shops we need to get rid of.
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Reply #114 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:39pm

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

We are well and truly stuffed now. If you're in Sydney, evacuate immediately! Run for your lives! The B-52s are on their way!

I was just thinking (no, hold the applause) about how dreadfully ironic it would be if this bloke was actually trying to curry support for the anti-islam brigade by pretending to be a terrorist. I believe this sort of thing is called a "false-flag" op.

Lets not get started on conspiracies, please! Bobby and Light will be here telling us how they never landed anyone one the Moon! Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #116 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:40pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

We are well and truly stuffed now. If you're in Sydney, evacuate immediately! Run for your lives! The B-52s are on their way!

I was just thinking (no, hold the applause) about how dreadfully ironic it would be if this bloke was actually trying to curry support for the anti-islam brigade by pretending to be a terrorist. I believe this sort of thing is called a "false-flag" op.

Possible but a long stretch... seems more like some individual with a funny idea of making a statement or being a martyr for something he has yet to specify....

What if it's a hold up gone wrong? Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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Reply #117 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:41pm

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

You can combine prayers in special circumstances.

That should give him until after 8pm tonight before he has to do any for today (excluding fajr prayer this morning).

Is hostage taking one of those circumstances?

Not sure - its something he'll have to negotiate with The Almighty when he faces him (which may not be too long).

In any case, he still has until around 4:30pm even without combining.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #118 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

You can combine prayers in special circumstances.

That should give him until after 8pm tonight before he has to do any for today (excluding fajr prayer this morning).

Is hostage taking one of those circumstances?

Not sure - its something he'll have to negotiate with The Almighty when he faces him (which may not be too long).

In any case, he still has until around 4:30pm even without combining.

Does the koran offer any guidance as to what constitutes special circumstances? Or does one have to turn to the imams for that?

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See Profile For Update wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:58pm:

Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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Reply #119 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:44pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:08pm:

raze every mosque to the ground.

That sounds like an act of terrorism to me.

Do we have a potential terrorist in our midst?

commonsense

You're even talking like a terrorist now.

Terrorists want to blow up buildings, and have no concern for innocent people who may be killed. According to them, it's just a commonsense thing.

Sprint wants to blow up buildings, and has no concern for innocent people who may be killed. According to Sprint, it's just common sense.

Not even the same!

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Question: Should the 'false-flag' proponents be banned?
Yes 7 (50.0%) No 7 (50.0%) Total votes: 14 « Created by: longweekend58 on: Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:34am »