Australian Politics Forum - Sydney siege: Martin Place

it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #135 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:18pm 12/14/2014 -- Hostages and gunmen below Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) HQ + Law Court Building
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #136 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:20pm

species 8472 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:40pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

We are well and truly stuffed now. If you're in Sydney, evacuate immediately! Run for your lives! The B-52s are on their way!

I was just thinking (no, hold the applause) about how dreadfully ironic it would be if this bloke was actually trying to curry support for the anti-islam brigade by pretending to be a terrorist. I believe this sort of thing is called a "false-flag" op.

Possible but a long stretch... seems more like some individual with a funny idea of making a statement or being a martyr for something he has yet to specify....

What if it's a hold up gone wrong? Grin

you go to a holdup carrying an Islamic flag???

It's his flag, is it?

They keep one in the shop incase a Muslim terrorist wants to put the place in lockdown and forgot to bring his own.

Do they?

Where are you getting this information from?

All I've heard is that a gunman has hostages, and that a flag was held up in the window.

Please reveal your source so that we can all keep up to date with this story.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #137 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:20pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:57pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:56pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:54pm:

I find the response to this incident far more unsettling and frightening than the act itself.

Do elaborate.

I was pretty clear.

Some bloke is possibly holding as many as 40 people hostage with a real possibility that their lives are in serious danger. He has caused the biggest city in the country to come to a standstill and left millions of people worried. But to you, the response to this is worse then the act itself.

Would you like to elaborate on what "response" exactly has you so concerned that it is worse than what this insane bastard has done so far?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #138 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:21pm Dare I ask where are you going with this light? Is the gunmen really the governor of the RBA?
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ImSpartacus2 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6913	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #139 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:21pm ....
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #140 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:22pm 12/14/2014 -- Hostages and gunmen below Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) HQ + Law Court Building
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ImSpartacus2 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6913	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #141 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:22pm There's one vital fact we're all missing and I reckon this is the vital clue of what lies at the bottom of all this
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #142 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:22pm Grand Mufti of Australia: "we condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part aind in whole in Islam"
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #143 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:23pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:17pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:41pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

You can combine prayers in special circumstances.

That should give him until after 8pm tonight before he has to do any for today (excluding fajr prayer this morning).

Is hostage taking one of those circumstances?

Not sure - its something he'll have to negotiate with The Almighty when he faces him (which may not be too long).

In any case, he still has until around 4:30pm even without combining.

Does the koran offer any guidance as to what constitutes special circumstances? Or does one have to turn to the imams for that?

Its discretionary - based on common sense.

You do your best to do all your prayers, but within reason.

If he missed morning prayer Satan will urinate in his ear.

sunnah.com/bukhari/19/25

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #144 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:24pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:54pm:

I find the response to this incident far more unsettling and frightening than the act itself.

taken 50 people hostage on a Monday Morning in Sydney........is nothing to concern anyone I guess you mean...or at least... carry on business as usual its only a gunman with close association with a terrorist group...unless they should ignore the FLAG which is very prominent as well..??

if they have BOMBS attached as well as guns...

is this still an overreaction?????

I am just asking....about your reaction thats all.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139592 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #145 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:27pm cods wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:24pm: ... its only a gunman with close association with a terrorist group... Where are you people getting all this information from? I've been checking the ABC. Should I be listening to Kochie instead?
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #146 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:28pm

species 8472 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:57pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:56pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:54pm:

I find the response to this incident far more unsettling and frightening than the act itself.

Do elaborate.

I was pretty clear.

Some bloke is possibly holding as many as 40 people hostage with a real possibility that their lives are in serious danger. He has caused the biggest city in the country to come to a standstill and left millions of people worried. But to you, the response to this is worse then the act itself.

Would you like to elaborate on what "response" exactly has you so concerned that it is worse than what this insane bastard has done so far?

latest news says 50... and lets hope there is nothing to concern us with! Roll Eyes

it must be over reaction as now they are making jokes about it.. Roll Eyes

once again this reaction kind of sux to me.

I wonder what the families of those hostages would do if they could meet someone called spartacus 2. I guess they could all sit down and have a bloody good laugh together. Angry

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #147 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:44pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:48am:

perceptions_now wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:40am:

Sydney siege: reports of hostage situation inside Martin Place cafe

A GUNMAN is reportedly holding people hostage at a cafe in Sydney’s Martin Place.
Channel 7 reported that an armed man is holding hostages at the Lindt Chocolate cafe, opposite the broadcaster’s Martin Place studios.
A NSW Police spokeswoman told Guardian Australia police were responding to an “unfolding” situation in Martin Place.
She would not confirm social media reports that a gunman was in the area, merely that it was an “ongoing operation.”

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2014/dec/15/sydney-siege-reports-...
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ISIL Flag in window of cafe, is on most TV channels now!

time to summarily execute all ISIL members and jail all their supporters.

this from the same guy who is opposed to the death penalty !! ....

wasn't this one of your old quotes longstupidone?

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 12:09pm:

a true rightie believes in justice, freedom, compassion, human rights and due process. lefties however define justice as murdering their opponents, freedom as the right to do as they say, human rights as non-existence and due process as the trip to the gallows and no more.

your posts on MH17 pretty much prove at least some of the above.

He laughed it off as a "knee-jerk reaction".

It's all to do with "literary devices and context", so he says.

I'll let others be the judge.

literary devices and context? yesterday he was claiming it was satire .... Cheesy

imagine what an education and an ability and desire to read books could do to you!

and imagine just how much more credible you'd be if you didn't contradict yourself every time you opened your mouth Grin

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #148 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm Snipers on the roofs, they need to take this guy out, with extreme predjudice as soon as they get a head shot chance.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #149 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:22pm: Grand Mufti of Australia: "we condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part aind in whole in Islam" wow thems strong words alright.
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Question: Should the 'false-flag' proponents be banned?
Yes 7 (50.0%) No 7 (50.0%) Total votes: 14 « Created by: longweekend58 on: Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:34am »