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Reply #180 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:51pm

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Australian Defence Force counter terrorism operation halts Sydney CBD
1 YEAR AGO MAY 02, 2013 6:15AM

Soldiers get on with the anti-terrorism exercise at Martin Place. Picture: Bill Hearne Source: The Daily Telegraph
STUNNED onlookers couldn’t believe their eyes as an army counter terrorism operation in Martin Place unfolded before them in the early hours of the morning.
At 1am, with the Daily Telegraph present, a convoy of dark Toyota 4WDs, with their spotlights blazing, sped down Macquarie St and burst onto Martin Place to unload a team of highly specialised Australian Defence Force counter terrorism soldiers.
With rifles drawn, faces covered in balaclavas and gas masks, and night vision goggles perched on their helmets, about 50 camouflaged soldiers fanned out through Martin Place in near-perfect silence in search of mock terrorists that had overtaken the underground Martin Place train station.
As police officers and an ambulance watched on, soldiers headed for the atrium at the centre of the pedestrian mall beside the old Commonwealth Bank building and hauled their tactical equipment over a glass barrier and descended the steps to the MLC food court.
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Other soldiers kept guard at checkpoints around the iconic Sydney business precinct, securing the area as onlookers walking by and waiting at bus stops pulled out their phones to capture the surreal operation happening in front of them.
Realising the food court wasn't the entrance to the station, soldiers backtracked to a corridor next to Martin Place Bar where they apprehended the first of the fictitious masked terrorists.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #181 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:52pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:40pm:

I've explained why. See my earlier comment - I am not going to be repeating myself because of your trouble with comprehension.

like this you mean!!

Some bloke is possibly holding as many as 40 people hostage with a real possibility that their lives are in serious danger. He has caused the biggest city in the country to come to a standstill and left millions of people worried. But to you, the response to this is worse then the act itself.

Would you like to elaborate on what "response" exactly has you so concerned that it is worse than what this insane bastard has done so far?

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Read the comment threads on the news story of your choice.

by AA..

thats a response when your not having a response...

never mind when it comes to comprehension... yeah your right I do have trouble with you...I dont do rude if I can avoid it...and its impossible to avoid it [rude] with some on here. Angry

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75191 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #182 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:52pm can all the hysterical old women (and I mean that both literally and figuratively) please go have a cup of tea or Vodka and settle down ... I'm afraid the shock is getting to you all .... as far as anyone knows, so far it's just a hostage situation, and not a declaration of war
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #183 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:52pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 1:54pm: I find the response to this incident far more unsettling and frightening than the act itself. Is this where we discover yet again that Aussie has not the slightest interest int eh welfare of the hostages or any real understand of why anyone else does?
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #184 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:53pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia:

"we condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part aind in whole in Islam"

wow thems strong words alright.

all of the problem is coming from islam
islam can't control itself.

burn down the biggest mosque

You violent pig. If anyone's the problem here its your fanaticism and your violent christian religion

you are dead right... bring out the head loppers..that is a much more refined way of doing it.... burning down is so passe... Sad

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #185 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:55pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

ian wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:33pm:

ian wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Snipers on the roofs, they need to take this guy out, with extreme predjudice as soon as they get a head shot chance.

they'll try to talk him out, they've got time, no need to rush, that'll just end up with innocent people dead ... if talking doesn't work then they'll use the snipers.

if his object is to display one of these head chopping stunts which is a strong bet he needs to be stopped asap.

if he was simply wanting to chop of heads, he would have done so already.

Right. And the fact that he's let some hostages go shows he's willing to negotiate and that he wants something.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #186 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:56pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia:

"we condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part aind in whole in Islam"

wow thems strong words alright.

all of the problem is coming from islam
islam can't control itself.

burn down the biggest mosque

Sprint, once again, inciting acts of terrorism in a public internet forum.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #187 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:56pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

I didn't say they were doing anything. I said you were jumping to conclusions without any facts at all and what a change that was from your usual behavior. Even the experts are wary of doing that, but not you - you know everything.

like I know more than you at any rate..

did you find out about the 50....or is it 40 or maby 13.. maybe none at all..

come on you are the one that is concerned...not me I believe what I am told by the people at the coal face..and thats usually what I talk about...without insulting people if I can..

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Reply #188 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:58pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

ian wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:33pm:

ian wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Snipers on the roofs, they need to take this guy out, with extreme predjudice as soon as they get a head shot chance.

they'll try to talk him out, they've got time, no need to rush, that'll just end up with innocent people dead ... if talking doesn't work then they'll use the snipers.

if his object is to display one of these head chopping stunts which is a strong bet he needs to be stopped asap.

if he was simply wanting to chop of heads, he would have done so already.

Right. And the fact that he's let some hostages go shows he's willing to negotiate and that he wants something.

this isn't some terrorist, he's a lunatic that took hostages . I suspect he was heading towards NSW parliament (down the road a little) when he was startled and took the cafe instead.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #189 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:36pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

Grand Mufti of Australia:

"we condemn this criminal act unequivocally and reiterate that such actions are denounced in part aind in whole in Islam"

wow thems strong words alright.

all of the problem is coming from islam
islam can't control itself.

burn down the biggest mosque

Sprint, once again, inciting acts of terrorism in a public internet forum.

I don't think it really means anything. its a nutter who will end up surrendering very soon or meeting Allah even sooner.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #190 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:59pm

cods wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

I didn't say they were doing anything. I said you were jumping to conclusions without any facts at all and what a change that was from your usual behavior. Even the experts are wary of doing that, but not you - you know everything.

like I know more than you at any rate..

You said he has a "close association with a terrorist group".

That's more than anyone knows at this stage.

Please reveal your source.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #191 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:59pm Just FYI to light - I am deleting your duplicate posts.
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #192 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:59pm

cods wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:56pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

I didn't say they were doing anything. I said you were jumping to conclusions without any facts at all and what a change that was from your usual behavior. Even the experts are wary of doing that, but not you - you know everything.

like I know more than you at any rate..

did you find out about the 50....or is it 40 or maby 13.. maybe none at all..

come on you are the one that is concerned...not me I believe what I am told by the people at the coal face..and thats usually what I talk about...without insulting people if I can..

go away troll ....

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #193 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:59pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

can all the hysterical old women (and I mean that both literally and figuratively) please go have a cup of tea or Vodka and settle down ... I'm afraid the shock is getting to you all ....

as far as anyone knows, so far it's just a hostage situation, and not a declaration of war Cheesy

thats right.. sunshine

we can guess you havent got anyone in the cafe???>. now I wonder what makes me think a thing like that?....

it could be a school next week I promise not to take the slightest interest...wouldnt want to upset any of our close muslim friends would I.

btw I think thats the first time I have said muslim.....nah nah it couldnt be to get all these socks out of the draw.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #194 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 3:00pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

ian wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:33pm:

ian wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Snipers on the roofs, they need to take this guy out, with extreme predjudice as soon as they get a head shot chance.

they'll try to talk him out, they've got time, no need to rush, that'll just end up with innocent people dead ... if talking doesn't work then they'll use the snipers.

if his object is to display one of these head chopping stunts which is a strong bet he needs to be stopped asap.

if he was simply wanting to chop of heads, he would have done so already.

Right. And the fact that he's let some hostages go shows he's willing to negotiate and that he wants something.

We don't know if they were freed or escaped yet.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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