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Reply #360 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:02pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

are there? I didn't think communist countries allowed organised religion, besides, they know how to deal with extremists, of any religion ...

that's Ok, I'll settle for Japan, I just figured he'd feel more at home in China since he grew up there.

Yeah, quite a few Muslims in China.

I'm upping my offer to three hundred bucks.

Fukuoka, Herbie.

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Reply #361 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:04pm

brumbie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:08pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Plenty of comment from Muslims today against this guy and this type of action.

but will it be condemned from the pulpit? will it be openly stated as being anti-Koran?

Sadly, no.

It's been denounced by the Islamic religious leaders around the whole country.

Phew...that's a relief.

You'd prefer they fulfilled your stereotypes and actually encouraged it? Yes, I suppose you and your ilk would. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #362 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:07pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

brumbie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

brumbie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 6:46pm:

My friend's husband had 3 police cars and a paddywagon watch him eat his lunch today in an Artarmon café because the frightened woman behind the counter called the police after he'd ordered. My friend is muscular and has a beard. And he's a Muslim. They drew quite a crowd. This guy is an upstanding member of the community.

What's happening in Martin Place is scary, but as of now, we don't know what's exactly going on. It's far better to be part of the solution rather than a part of the problem. There are consequences for preaching hatred and they usually fall on those who least deserve it. It's important to act like the society we want to live in.

That is very sad, Annie.

Not at all.

There are 52 Islamic countries in the world for him to chose from ~ but surprise surprise, despite being a devout Muslim ~ he chooses to live in non-Muslim secular Australia.

you could also go and live somewhere where they have no muslims! whats stopping you?

And where would that be John? the only places I can think of offhand would be places like Japan ...where they have the intelligence to not involve themselves with multiculture.Oh ...and seem to get along just fine thank you very much Roll Eyes

....Geez!

Herb grew up in China, perhaps he could go back there?

Plenty of muslims in China John.

are there? I didn't think communist countries allowed organised religion, besides, they know how to deal with extremists, of any religion ...

that's Ok, I'll settle for Japan, I just figured he'd feel more at home in China since he grew up there.

Herbie would hate it. He dislikes Asians only slightly less than Muslims. In the days of Hansonism, he used to cheer on her anti-Asian stance with gusto - which is interesting as he, by his own admission grew up in China. He hankers, I suppose for the days of the Empire when coolies and n-i-g-g-e-r-s knew their place and Muslims were kept out in the desert, to howl at the moon. Ah, the days of the Raj, how he misses it! Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #363 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:07pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

brumbie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

brumbie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 6:46pm:

My friend's husband had 3 police cars and a paddywagon watch him eat his lunch today in an Artarmon café because the frightened woman behind the counter called the police after he'd ordered. My friend is muscular and has a beard. And he's a Muslim. They drew quite a crowd. This guy is an upstanding member of the community.

What's happening in Martin Place is scary, but as of now, we don't know what's exactly going on. It's far better to be part of the solution rather than a part of the problem. There are consequences for preaching hatred and they usually fall on those who least deserve it. It's important to act like the society we want to live in.

That is very sad, Annie.

Not at all.

There are 52 Islamic countries in the world for him to chose from ~ but surprise surprise, despite being a devout Muslim ~ he chooses to live in non-Muslim secular Australia.

you could also go and live somewhere where they have no muslims! whats stopping you?

And where would that be John? the only places I can think of offhand would be places like Japan ...where they have the intelligence to not involve themselves with multiculture.Oh ...and seem to get along just fine thank you very much Roll Eyes

....Geez!

Herb grew up in China, perhaps he could go back there?

Plenty of muslims in China John.

are there? I didn't think communist countries allowed organised religion, besides, they know how to deal with extremists, of any religion ...

that's Ok, I'll settle for Japan, I just figured he'd feel more at home in China since he grew up there.

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http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/28/muslim-population-country-p...

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #364 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:10pm Hmmm. Holding multicultural views! I didn't say or mean multiracial The LibLabs need to wake up and change their immigration program
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Reply #365 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:02pm:

Perhaps if muslims were far more pro-active at denouncing terrorism rather than holding protests against the arrest of terrorists they might not be treated so suspiciously.

Well said.

We've heard nothing but endless rationalisations, apologist nonsense, and Victimhood self-pity from the leaders of the Muslim community.

It's time the government stopped playing soft-ball with theses community leaders, and started reading them the riot act.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139596 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #366 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:11pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:07pm: Herbie would hate it. He dislikes Asians only slightly less than Muslims. An ex-employee of Jack Van Tongeren's, so I've heard.
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #367 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:15pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:43pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:08pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:04pm:

Plenty of comment from Muslims today against this guy and this type of action.

but will it be condemned from the pulpit? will it be openly stated as being anti-Koran?

Sadly, no.

It's been denounced by the Islamic religious leaders around the whole country.

How very decent of them. What a bunch of hypocritical bastards.

Means absolutely nothing.

These are the same bunch of Muslim 'community leaders' who only recently chucked a dummy-spit when Abbott announced stricter terrorism laws.

Two-faced hypocrites who only just weeks ago didn't support our government's initiatives to make it easier for the security police to identify and crack down on Muslims suspected of planning terrorist acts.

you have made a point I seem to recall they were attending the meeting with Abbott then they changed their minds?????>.. it will be interesting if one of our friends at the ABC asks them about that when they pop in for a few words.....

I am also a little dismayed when we read about the books their book shops sell and these so called teachers of ISLAM that preach hate and killing seems to be ok.....why do these IMAMS who now stand up and claim they are against all of this and they love living in this country.. why do they not close these shops and people down.???>..when all they do is spread hate for the people of this country...

I dont understand how you can let this happen knowing full well it will lead to someone going this far eventually.....
every one says it is an event waiting to happen..

.it could all end up peacefully... then again it could go the other way and we never find out what it was all about.......one guy who met him before he went into the shop I believe, said he had the look of the devil about him...scared the beejesus out of him..threatened to shoot him....

how much longer can he hold out????..

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Reply #368 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:04pm:

You'd prefer they fulfilled your stereotypes and actually encouraged it? Yes, I suppose you and your ilk would. Roll Eyes

But they do encourage it by default.

Every time the Labor or Liberal governments legislate for stricter terrorism laws, the next thing we hear is that the Muslim 'community leaders' are throwing a tantie about 'victimisation' and being 'singled out for special attention'.

Well who the hell should be 'singled out' if it's not the notoriously troublesome Muslim community?

Bloody hypocrites, the lot of them.

They should be shipped out of the country in a fleet of Airbus A380s heading for destinations in the Middle East.

The whole damn lot of them.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #369 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:47pm

brumbie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

brumbie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:55pm:

brumbie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 6:46pm:

My friend's husband had 3 police cars and a paddywagon watch him eat his lunch today in an Artarmon café because the frightened woman behind the counter called the police after he'd ordered. My friend is muscular and has a beard. And he's a Muslim. They drew quite a crowd. This guy is an upstanding member of the community.

What's happening in Martin Place is scary, but as of now, we don't know what's exactly going on. It's far better to be part of the solution rather than a part of the problem. There are consequences for preaching hatred and they usually fall on those who least deserve it. It's important to act like the society we want to live in.

That is very sad, Annie.

Not at all.

There are 52 Islamic countries in the world for him to chose from ~ but surprise surprise, despite being a devout Muslim ~ he chooses to live in non-Muslim secular Australia.

you could also go and live somewhere where they have no muslims! whats stopping you?

And where would that be John? the only places I can think of offhand would be places like Japan ...where they have the intelligence to not involve themselves with multiculture.Oh ...and seem to get along just fine thank you very much Roll Eyes

....Geez!

Herb grew up in China, perhaps he could go back there?

Plenty of muslims in China John.

are there? I didn't think communist countries allowed organised religion, besides, they know how to deal with extremists, of any religion ...

that's Ok, I'll settle for Japan, I just figured he'd feel more at home in China since he grew up there.

23,308,000

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/28/muslim-population-country-p...

I believed you Wink

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #370 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:53pm

I watched an award show the other night, "10th Anniversary Pride of Australia Awards"....one of the awards that made me feel positive, was to Dr. Jamal Rifi for "Fair go".....as explained below ~

Dr Rifi’s generous nature and desire to give back led him to found Muslim Doctors Against Violence and the Christian Muslim Friendship Society, building harmony between the Muslim and non-Muslim communities.

Then when viewing the siege on TV (in the waiting room, whilst going to visit a school friend & neighbour in pallative care today), I felt sorry for the Muslims living in harmony in our society, and hoped this doesn't tar them all with the same brush.
It's important to note, that Dr. Rifi did condemn the actions of this gunman. Here is the story below.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/martin-place-siege-muslim-leader-jamal-rifi-says-gunmen-are-a-disgrace-to-islam/story-fni0cx12-1227156706240

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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8630	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #371 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:55pm Oh btw.....something co-incidental about the word "Martin" and the lone gunman and cafes?
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Sophia Gold Member Offline Posts: 8630	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #372 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:56pm .
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38860 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #373 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:59pm Just got back to this. ABC is still re-running footage from many hours ago. Unbelievable!
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139596 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #374 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 9:00pm Sophia wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 8:55pm: Oh btw.....something co-incidental about the word "Martin" and the lone gunman and cafes? Yes. And a few of the hostages have maps of Tassie.
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