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Reply #420 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:25am
 
How he died?

Well.. it was reported that he had what 'appears to be a pump action shotgun'...

> there were several (4-5) loud single blasts...

>  followed by masses of automatic gunfire apparently as police entered...

>  I would suggest he retreated or took shelter, since there were ongoing bursts of automatic fire for many seconds.

I'd say he died of about a magazine full of 5.56mm rounds.

Claims that he was some kind of cleric appear to be false and self-assumed, and he has a lengthy criminal record.  I would suggest he is as much a cleric as I am (not at all)...

Obviously he was a nutter, though I am certain that Allah will not look kindly on the murder of innocents.
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Reply #421 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:31am
 
blessings grappler ,


did the police kill 2 people when attempting to kill the operative ?





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Reply #422 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:32am
 
Does anyone have raw footage of the incident from the time the first hostages 'made their escape' at around 2am? (so it is reported).  Apparently this triggered the shooting, but I'd like to confirm shots inside.

Bit hard to work out who initiated the incident when it starts with police outside including bomb squad ready to go in... meaning they were in the immediate process.

Need to hear without bloody commentators the sounds from inside...
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Reply #423 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:39am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:32am:
Does anyone have raw footage of the incident from the time the first hostages 'made their escape' at around 2am? (so it is reported).  Apparently this triggered the shooting, but I'd like to confirm shots inside.

Bit hard to work out who initiated the incident when it starts with police outside including bomb squad ready to go in... meaning they were in the immediate process.

Need to hear without bloody commentators the sounds from inside...





this one ?
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Reply #424 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:43am
 
Thank you, Master Light... seems pretty clear from sounds...

I praise the two police in shot for their immediate response to booms from inside.

I wonder if all the relevant footage from helmet cameras etc will be released to the public.  That was one hell of a lot of 5.56 rounds in there, in two clear sequences, so I assume the gunman possibly retreated to that back room mentioned previously.

One officer is definitely ex-Army - quick three round taps on trigger...
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Reply #425 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:47am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:43am:
Thank you, Master Light... seems pretty clear from sounds...

I praise the two police in shot for their immediate response to booms from inside.

I wonder if all the relevant footage from helmet cameras etc will be released to the public.  That was one hell of a lot of 5.56 rounds in there, in two clear sequences, so I assume the gunman possibly retreated to that back room mentioned previously.

One officer is definitely ex-Army - quick three round taps on trigger...


many blessings mighty grappler

the tactical response unloaded heaps and many wiz bangs , crikey !

that was a sustained deployment of heavy weaponry

enough one may venture , to kill innocent people caught in the cross fight / kill zone of aforementioned wiz bangs
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Reply #426 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:07am
 
.. page kick with entertainment....

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Reply #427 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:09am
 
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Reply #428 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:12am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:15am:
I'm more interested in trying to analyse the events.... and find answers.


This would never have happened if a 'liberal-progressive' Leftwing-luvvie of a 'New Age' judge hadn't released him back into the community on bail despite a string of serious charges against him.

"Iranian cleric Man Haron Monis is the man police believe was behind the siege at the Lindt Chocolate Cafe in Sydney's Martin Place.

Monis, who was granted political asylum in Australia, was on bail for a string of violent offences, including being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife.

He was also facing more than 40 sexual and indecent assault charges and had a conviction for sending offensive letters to families of deceased Australian soldiers".


It's obvious that those in charge of protecting the public's safety from delinquent Muslims are more concerned with appeasing those who pose a risk than locking them up.

This Muslim was granted political asylum, and then proceeded to write 'offensive letters' to the families of deceased Australian soldiers.

The judges didn't jail him.

The government didn't deport him.

Conclusion: In no way are the authorities taking the threat of terrorism seriously.

It's impossible to reconcile the 'Hands-Off' attitude of the government and the courts towards this fellow, and assurances that they're "Doing all we can to ensure public safety".

Two innocent people have died because the criminal court didn't do it's job by jailing this loose cannon, and the Minister for Immigration didn't have him deported after he was caught sending cruel letters to the relatives of deceased soldiers.

I hope the families of the two deceased sue the balls off the government and the judiciary for their criminal negligence in not dealing properly with this Muslim at the time he first showed himself to be an Islamic wacko.

We're going to hear a lot of soft-cock apologist platitudes about "Let's not play the blame game".

It's precisely what needs to be done if lessons are to be learnt from this.

If an American pitbull terrier that has a history of aggressive actions against people is still allowed to wander the streets as a menace and a potential danger to public safety, then of course the magistrate or judge is wholly responsible for what may then occur.

And in this case, even the government knew of this nutter's potential to become a lethal problem at some future time.






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Reply #429 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:19am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:25am:
How he died?

Well.. it was reported that he had what 'appears to be a pump action shotgun'...

> there were several (4-5) loud single blasts...

>  followed by masses of automatic gunfire apparently as police entered...

>  I would suggest he retreated or took shelter, since there were ongoing bursts of automatic fire for many seconds.

I'd say he died of about a magazine full of 5.56mm rounds.

Claims that he was some kind of cleric appear to be false and self-assumed, and he has a lengthy criminal record.  I would suggest he is as much a cleric as I am (not at all)...

Obviously he was a nutter, though I am certain that Allah will not look kindly on the murder of innocents.



I appreciate your levelheaded and informative posts. I wish they'd stop saying cleric - it's dishonest and divisive.

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Reply #430 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:34am
 
The appalling disrespect shown for the two dead innocents from this siege by the perennial idiots needs to be dealt with by the moderators.

Light should be banned for a lengthy time for his shocking misconduct as should others who propagate such foolishness and insanity while disrespecting the dead.
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Reply #431 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:36am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:34am:
The appalling disrespect shown for the two dead innocents from this siege by the perennial idiots needs to be dealt with by the moderators.

Light should be banned for a lengthy time for his shocking misconduct as should others who propagate such foolishness and insanity while disrespecting the dead.


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and exposures of your good self..

all posts are on topic ..

as all continue to report these unfolding events ...

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Reply #432 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:37am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:19am:
I appreciate your levelheaded and informative posts. I wish they'd stop saying cleric - it's dishonest and divisive.


Wrong.

Any Muslim can legitimately claim to be a 'cleric' or imam if he can attract a following who will attend his 'sermons'.

The system is not like that within the Christian church.

If a Muslim is judged by his peers to speak with authority on matters to do with Islamic belief, and he attracts a congregation to his Friday talks, then by that fact alone he is regarded to be an imam. 

It does not require the endorsement of higher authority to legitimise his status as a recognised cleric.
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Reply #433 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:37am
 
[quote author=Herbert link=1418600402/428#428 date=1418674348]
I'm more interested in trying to analyse the events.... and find answers.


This would never have happened if a 'liberal-progressive' Leftwing-luvvie of a 'New Age' judge hadn't released him back into the community on bail despite a string of serious charges against him.

"Iranian cleric Man Haron Monis is the man police believe was behind the siege at the Lindt Chocolate Cafe in Sydney's Martin Place.

Monis, who was granted political asylum in Australia, was on bail for a string of violent offences, including being an accessory to the murder of his ex-wife.

He was also facing more than 40 sexual and indecent assault charges and had a conviction for sending offensive letters to families of deceased Australian soldiers".

It's obvious that those in charge of protecting the public's safety from delinquent Muslims are more concerned with appeasing those who pose a risk than locking them up.

This Muslim was granted political asylum, and then proceeded to write 'offensive letters' to the families of deceased Australian soldiers.

The judges didn't jail him.

The government didn't deport him.

Conclusion: In no way are the authorities taking the threat of terrorism seriously.

It's impossible to reconcile the 'Hands-Off' attitude of the government and the courts towards this fellow, and assurances that they're "Doing all we can to ensure public safety".

Two innocent people have died because the criminal court didn't do it's job by jailing this loose cannon, and the Minister for Immigration didn't have him deported after he was caught sending cruel letters to the relatives of deceased soldiers.

I hope the families of the two deceased sue the balls off the government and the judiciary for their criminal negligence in not dealing properly with this Muslim at the time he first showed himself to be an Islamic wacko.

We're going to hear a lot of soft-cock apologist platitudes about "Let's not play the blame game".

It's precisely what needs to be done if lessons are to be learnt from this.

If an American pitbull terrier that has a history of aggressive actions against people is still allowed to wander the streets as a menace and a potential danger to public safety, then of course the magistrate or judge is wholly responsible for what may then occur.

And in this case, even the government knew of this nutter's potential to become a lethal problem at some future time[/quote]




how amazing is this......he has an awful history no doubt about that...but I am still wondering what was this all about...what were his demands...????....

my sympathy goes to the families who lost someone in this ordeal....and how those who escaped from it will recover I have no idea.just what has this achieved???????? Sad Sad
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Reply #434 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 6:40am
 
Paradise Lost - Australia will never be the same.

Already 'Sheik' Man Haron Monis is being labelled as a lone rogue. This may be the case however ISIS has called for an International Jihadist against Western Countries in particular. This is now living evidence that this is happening.

Australia must reflect heavily on this tragedy and decide just how we are going to approach the Muslim problem and it is a hugely growing problem. (I am not in any way labelling all Muslims as terrorists just the hard liners)

My heart goes out to the relatives to all who were involved in this siege and to the families of those who were brutally murdered.

The cops who went in, were incredibly brave, straight into the line of fire, God bless them all.
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