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Reply #468 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:02am

A number of Iranian Mossad agents go missing in 1994.

Man Monis turns up in Australia seeking asylum in 1996 claiming persecution by the Iranian state.

Iranian Mossad agents are nothing new.

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Abbott promised no tax hikes & no cuts to the ABC

There's a 'budget emergency', so we will give $9 billion to the Reserve Bank, spend $12 billion on some dubious jets, $2 billion to bomb Iraq, etc.

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Reply #470 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:16am

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 5:10am:

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Ive said this many times before about these false flag accounts.

Media kept talking about sunni islam, IS,alqaeda, when in fact the loony fwit was a shia clown who tried to bring disrepute to sunni islam.

He was shia but wanted a IS flag, funny poo i say.

total false flag attack

this will unravel very very soon ...

so be it

namaste

What a total loon you are.

Pyramid of light? Pile of steaming crap more like it.

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Reply #471 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:19am

If you are a Muslim pondering today's events then think of this.

If you love and embrace our society then you are welcome and we embrace you.

However if you decide that the way forward is the way of ISIS then go, you are not welcome. Don't hang around agitating in a Country, which vehemently opposes the ideals of ISIS and like minded organisations.

Because if you are a hardliner we will come for you and you will be dealt with.

Australia will now longer tolerate you spreading bile and hate against us whilst free to walk in our society and murder our citizens.

It is time for you to decide, if you are for us or against us. If it is the latter then get the f...k out, to where you are with like minded zealots.

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Reply #475 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:23am

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Dear O dear O dear .... not look for 'scapegoats'.

How about we look for those who are responsible for not having deported this Muslim 'refugee' (from Iran?) ... at the time he demonstrated his animosity towards non-Muslim Australians?

How about we identify which judge or magistrate thought it was appropriate to let this Muslim back onto the street under bail conditions?

I have no doubt that there will be alot of questions asked. And his life in Australia will be dissected down to minute details. But ultimately, the judges and magistrates have no way of knowing this can happen, and the responsibility lies with the perpetrator. We still only have very sketchy idea of what happened. So lets not jump into conclusion in some vigilante rage fit.

In terms of questions, I would be very interested to know how did he get access to the shotgun.

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Reply #476 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:24am

The siege is over. A member of the Muslim community murdered two Sydney siders, a small price to pay for Multiculturalism the powers that be probably think. Problem is, it's starting to add up, Bali plus Sydney would be about 90 so far, murdered by Muslims. I think it's time the Libs and Labs had a rethink about their psyche, their use by date has long gone, everything they do from now on will be messy, just like this siege now concluded

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Reply #477 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:28am

Why was Mossad agent, Man Monis, given asylum in Australia by John Howard in 1996?

Official story: "he was a Shia ayatollah fleeing persecution from Shi-ite Iran."

Make sense?

What next? Asylum for priests fleeing persecution in the Vatican?

Why did this guy have so many aliases?

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Monis, also known as Sheikh Haron and Mohammad Hassan Manteghi...[and Ayatollah Boroujerdi]

heraldsun.com.au/news/national/martin-place-cafe-siege-man-haron-monis-named-as-
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How come nobody in the Muslim community knew this guy?

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As far back as 2008, Australia’s Muslim leaders distanced themselves from Monis.

Australia’s senior Shia leader at the time, Kamal Mousselmani, called on federal authorities to investigate the fake sheik, saying he did not speak for Australia’s Muslim community.

Mousselmani told The Australian there were no ayatollahs — supreme Shia scholars — in Australia and none of his fellow spiritual leaders knew who Ayatollah Boroujerdi or Sheik Haron was.

“We don’t know him and we have got nothing to do with him,” Sheik Mousselmani said. “The federal police should investigate who he is. It should be their responsibility,” he said.

heraldsun.com.au/news/national/martin-place-cafe-siege-man-haron-monis-named-as-
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Abbott promised no tax hikes & no cuts to the ABC

There's a 'budget emergency', so we will give $9 billion to the Reserve Bank, spend $12 billion on some dubious jets, $2 billion to bomb Iraq, etc.

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Reply #478 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:54am

red baron wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

If you are a Muslim pondering today's events then think of this.

If you love and embrace our society then you are welcome and we embrace you.

However if you decide that the way forward is the way of ISIS then go, you are not welcome. Don't hang around agitating in a Country, which vehemently opposes the ideals of ISIS and like minded organisations.

Because if you are a hardliner we will come for you and you will be dealt with.

Australia will now longer tolerate you spreading bile and hate against us whilst free to walk in our society and murder our citizens.

It is time for you to decide, if you are for us or against us. If it is the latter then get the f...k out, to where you are with like minded zealots.

Nice rant, Red, but our politicians, our law-makers, and our courts have no intention of upsetting Australia's 'Muslim Community' by inferring that any of this is a product of Islam and its teachings.

Abbott has just increased the Muslim intake by 7000.

The elephant-in-the-room is still being ignored.

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Reply #479 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:54am

tickleandrose wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:23am:

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Dear O dear O dear .... not look for 'scapegoats'.

How about we look for those who are responsible for not having deported this Muslim 'refugee' (from Iran?) ... at the time he demonstrated his animosity towards non-Muslim Australians?

How about we identify which judge or magistrate thought it was appropriate to let this Muslim back onto the street under bail conditions?

I have no doubt that there will be alot of questions asked. And his life in Australia will be dissected down to minute details. But ultimately, the judges and magistrates have no way of knowing this can happen, and the responsibility lies with the perpetrator. We still only have very sketchy idea of what happened. So lets not jump into conclusion in some vigilante rage fit.

In terms of questions, I would be very interested to know how did he get access to the shotgun.

No need to jump to conclusions...as soon as he showed the raghead flag it was obvious to all of us. Probably not you I admit some people wouldn't know they were in the sh1t till the level reaches their noses.

Dont start throwing red herrings about how he got a shotgun it is irrelevent. Aussie gun laws only apply to those willing to obey them. You'd have to be a super educated fool to believe anything else.

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